The socket should probably be the same, so yes, it will be compatible for both chips. The 45nm will be out around Q4, the 32nm won't be out for a year after that, so it'll be a while. I'd also say that a reasonable Nehalem system in early 09 should last you a couple of years, easy, depending on how much top end you need. The E6600 was one of the first C2D's released, and it is still a reasonably good performer today, so that should be some indication.
I'd wait for the 32nm versions. Likely to have a higher IPC (better performance at the same clock speed) and dual die versions would be out by then as well. Plus less heat / power consumption means better overclocking.
to my knowledge, the 32nm nehalem would be in an octo-core version as well. gonna be a loooooooooong while before these things hit mainstream. and prices go down.
If you are going to wait for the "next big thing" in computing, you will be waiting forever. There's always something bigger and faster coming down the pipe.
So I guess i will just wait and get a 45nm 2.6ghz or more Nehalem, than further along the track il buy a 32nm if there is a big change. Thanks for your help guys.
So I guess i will just wait and get a 45nm 2.6ghz or more Nehalem, than further along the track il buy a 32nm if there is a big change. Thanks for your help guys.
And there was me going to get my Commodore 64 out of the loft and play some games on it...
If you are going to wait for the "next big thing" in computing, you will be waiting forever. There's always something bigger and faster coming down the pipe.
Nehalem is going to be expensive for the first 12 to 18 months after it comes out. The boards will be more expensive, the ram DDR3 will cost more, and the CPU will be over priced for at least 6 months to a year.
My price guess for these 3 parts needed for a good 64 bit system will cost between $800 to $1000, board, 8GB ram, and the CPU.
I'll prolly look at a Nehalem system after AMD starts to sell it's next great thing after Nehalem comes out. When Intel cuts the price in half like they did with the Quads last year.
Il be fine with just getting 1 - 2 gig of DDR3 ram, and the 2.66ghz Nehalem will be about 300-600$. I'm willing to pay that, as I can always just stinge on the other parts like ram and graphics card.
Though 8 cores are getting a bit stupid now, anything after that and we should expect CPU's to be raising dead.
Il be fine with just getting 1 - 2 gig of DDR3 ram, and the 2.66ghz Nehalem will be about 300-600$. I'm willing to pay that, as I can always just stinge on the other parts like ram and graphics card.
Though 8 cores are getting a bit stupid now, anything after that and we should expect CPU's to be raising dead.
Sorry but i cant dish that much money for a CPU. 200€ is my limit. For a GPU, well, that that limit i a bit higher. ill pay even more for a mobo if it is worth it. But 600€ for ONE cpu. No, completely out of the question.
And it is a terrible investment also.
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I can wait until the Lynnfield with the LGA1160 ports. But will these work right with the graphics cards that are made like 1 year later and the ram too.
Also when will it be a good time to buy a Nehalem Cpu? I just want a good gaming rig, that can last me about 4-5 years (and I would upgrade the ram and graphics card some times). Is it worth to wait for Nehalem and which Nehalem?
Message edited by Dommzyboy on 07-22-2008 at 01:18:33 PM
The socket should probably be the same, so yes, it will be compatible for both chips
the nehalem socket is 1366 pins, therefore 100% incompatible with current boards out today.... IMO if i was gonna make a system now, i would get either a E8400 or a GOOD Q6600 (clock it up to 3.0GHz no voltage changes and ya good to go ), a nice P45 or X38 and one or two HD4850's
That value counts the 4850 Crossfire. So, there is still money for a nice cooler, and a case if you dont want to reuse yours. I didnt included HDD, because well, you can reuse your own HDDs aswell. Ive been upgrading for some years now, and my Boot HDD it is still a 80 GB Special Edition from Western Digital. I got another of 750Gb i bought recently, but hey it was a great deal. Same for the DVD-RW. Reuse yours. Mine 4 years and still working flawless. Illl buy a BD-RW when BD Discs are cheap and BD-RWs are also cheap. I hardly use CDs/DVDs anymore. From Hard disk loading to External discs, hell, dont need no BD Discs.
Hope i helped. You can find better deals im sure, but was just to show you can mount a very decent machine for less 1000$.
But I just want to know, if I bought say a Core2Quad 6600 core system with a nvidia9600gt, 2gig of ddr2 ram and other good stuff, how long would this last me?
I have a feeling that Intel might pull another chipset compatibility trick and force you to upgrade to a "compatible" chipset just so you can chop off a few nanometres.
EDIT: I meant Intel, I don't know why I said Nvidia.
Message edited by randomizer on 07-22-2008 at 01:52:12 PM
As built? The rest of the year. You could use a better graphics card and more RAM.
Of course, i'm the maniac who spent $4500 getting 4GB 1800 DDR3, and a 3.2 quad...I plan to wait out the next socket change, because I don't believe there will be that big an improvement in proformance over the next few years, at least the way chips are currently designed.
@dommzyboy: ur processor will last a while....specially if ur willing to OC. however u might have to upgrade ur ram and gpu depending on what screen size u game on and with what level of details
nehalem uses new sockets altogether.....so no u cant use dem on current MB. and its not worth waiting for nehalem as they will be way too expensive and according to a review in tomshardware, 2.93Ghz nehalem is a bit faster than 2.9 intel quadcore and about 12% faster than a amd 9950 OCed to 2.9GHz
), a nice P45 or X38 and one or two HD4850's 
