Newegg goes Phenom Crazy!!!

[BaronMatrix]

Yes, folks, our friends at the Egg have established themesleves as THE Phenom retailer. Included in their portfolio:

9950 Retail and OEM
9850 Retail and OEM
9150e -$179 65W
9650 - Retail and OEM
9550 - Retail
9600B - OEM
9750 - Retail and OEM


The only thing missing at this point is the 9350e. It looks like AMD is ramping K10 finally as the 13xx series showed up last week. Now all they need is to get Alienware to release a true Spider platform with 790GX and water cooled Phenoms plus 2x4870X2s.

Now that would be a high-end system. Phenom should get to 3.4GHz on water with SB750. Of course, I would want to let Vista turn it down so that I don't single-handedly overload my apartment's wiring.

J\K. It wouldn't be that bad, but it would be kind of hungry. But considering that I may have 2-3 hours per week for gaming, the chip would NEVER be under full load.

 

[Grimmy]

So... when ya gonna get a water cooler phenom spider system?

 

[weskurtz81]

Wouldn't the CPU bottleneck two 4870X2's? Big AMD fan here, but I don't know if that is the CPU I would use for those powerful cards. I could be completely wrong though....

 

[reddozen]

I also don't know that 3.4 is right.
They are getting 3.3~3.5 on air with the new deneb core.
With water cooling, I would think you could push more than just 3.4.

 

[B-Unit]

LMAO, no, at 3.4Ghz, a Phenom is not going to bottleneck anything.

 

[1haplo]

Title is wrong. Should read AMD is finally shipping Phenoms to retail sellers!.

Or

AMD ships all of its working Phenoms to Newegg?

Newegg did not go Phenom Crazy.... They just sell what the distributors or manufactures send them.

Newegg went HD4850 Crazy or Newegg went Floppy drive Crazy, they have more then one listed......

1Haplo

 

[BaronMatrix]

Wouldn't the CPU bottleneck two 4870X2's? Big AMD fan here, but I don't know if that is the CPU I would use for those powerful cards. I could be completely wrong though....

A quick Google for 9850 overclock will show that at 3.2GHz\2.4L3, the Phenom is neck and neck with Penryn in CineBench. It was always said that Phenom doesn't shine until 2.6GHz+. Some guy at xtremesystems did it. If you have two 4870X2's you are playing at 2560 (unless you're crazy) so the GPU is taking the brunt of the work. Even mighty Penryn needs fast GPUs for high res gaming.


A couple of weeks ago some guy tested quad SLI with 9850 and a 9770. The difference was minimal at high res. I'll see if I can find the link.

 

[BaronMatrix]

So... when ya gonna get a water cooler phenom spider system?

As soon as I get around to it. My 4400+ is still churnign out the frames, code and VMs, so no rush. I'm definitely waiting for 790GX. I'm thinking about buying a BluRay for it and pumping out to the TV. Hopefully, plugging in the discrete card doesn't turn off the ports.

I guess putting systems together isn't as much fun as it used to be.

 

[BaronMatrix]

Title is wrong. Should read AMD is finally shipping Phenoms to retail sellers!.

Or

AMD ships all of its working Phenoms to Newegg?

Newegg did not go Phenom Crazy.... They just sell what the distributors or manufactures send them.

Newegg went HD4850 Crazy or Newegg went Floppy drive Crazy, they have more then one listed......

1Haplo

No. The title is correct. They have had Phenom since the B2 stepping. I guess you can't take a joke. I was just shocked when I saw all of them finally. The 9650 was MIA for months.

 

[th_username]

i want to see 9150e overclock with new chipset
amd + ati for life

 

[1haplo]

Baron,

Talk about being MIA for months.

1Haplo

 

[Wisecracker]

I wonder what's behind the Phenom 9950BE HD995ZFAJ4BGH oem for $290?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103285

If yall put up the money I'll find out

 

[chunkymonster]

Any indication/speculation as to when retailers will have 790GX mobos?

 

[BaronMatrix]

Baron,

Talk about being MIA for months.

1Haplo

What can I say. Things were getting crazy.

 

[BaronMatrix]

Any indication/speculation as to when retailers will have 790GX mobos?

Last I heard they should show up at the end of the month. Anand did a test with a Foxconn and Fudzilla showed pics of another one.

 

[BaronMatrix]

I wonder what's behind the Phenom 9950BE HD995ZFAJ4BGH oem for $290?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103285

If yall put up the money I'll find out

If you go throughout Newegg, you will find some weird prices. I've seen 14" laptops cost more than 17" ones. They might be new spins also. I heard AMD would drop a new one by Fall.

 

[dragonsprayer]

where did the baron go for long? i missed you!

 

[terror112]

lol, baron is BACK!

 

[jimmysmitty]

^Any reasoning why the 780G mobos are being sold but websites for Asus don't list any 780G chipsets and AMDs site doesn't have any drivers?

I smell a conspiracy.

 

[jimmysmitty]

^Um look at the QX6850. Not a 45nm part and can easily OC to 4GHz.

As for your idea, unless the die shrink includes major enhancements to the arch I wouldn't expect much more than 10-15% improvement over previous Phenoms.

 

[ro3dog]

^Um look at the QX6850. Not a 45nm part and can easily OC to 4GHz.

As for your idea, unless the die shrink includes major enhancements to the arch I wouldn't expect much more than 10-15% improvement over previous Phenoms.

this too was said about the 4800 gpus,now Nvidia is caught in a storm.

 

[cjl]

The difference is that the transition from 3800 to 4800 was an architecture change, while this is only a die shrink. A closer analogy would be 9800 GTX to 9800 GTX+, unless they are also changing the architecture significantly.

 

[sailer]

Saw an ad from Newegg showing a 2950 BE for $220 and free shipping. Now if they had a motherboard with a SB750 chip to go with it, it might be worthwhile. My old 939 socket 4400+ is getting a bit long of tooth these days. It handles simple stuff, office apps, but none of the new games.

 

[jimmysmitty]

this too was said about the 4800 gpus,now Nvidia is caught in a storm.

What this guy below said. Big difference.

The difference is that the transition from 3800 to 4800 was an architecture change, while this is only a die shrink. A closer analogy would be 9800 GTX to 9800 GTX+, unless they are also changing the architecture significantly.

Exactally. The 3800 to 4800 was a major change. They added more shaders (more than 2x) 2x the texture units and they also made a lot of architectual changes compared to the R600.

Deneb on the other hand is just a die shrink like Penryn and unless they are doing a whole bunch of changes Deneb will not make leaps and bounds in performance.

 

[Wisecracker]

^Any reasoning why the 780G mobos are being sold but websites for Asus don't list any 780G chipsets and AMDs site doesn't have any drivers?

I smell a conspiracy.

I'm not sure I understand but Asus has 4 AMD 780g's - and a 780v - - - > >
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639
I imagine they will be adding a 780g 'sideport' version soon ...

AMD chipset drivers are distributed by the OEM, who may elect to enable different features and adjustments, voltages, etc. thru their BIOSs; this would effect the available settings and tweaks from within AOD.

The difference is that the transition from 3800 to 4800 was an architecture change, while this is only a die shrink. A closer analogy would be 9800 GTX to 9800 GTX+, unless they are also changing the architecture significantly.

ro3dog could have used a better analogy - something like R600 to RV670 which was effectively a die-shrink from 80nm to 55nm. Because of the NDAs no one can comment and so the move from 65nm to 45nm is a mystery. No one expects exceptional performance gains but AMD may have a few rabbits to pull out of their hat, and most importantly they should see big bumps in margins for Q408 and Q109.

I think available desktop 45nms will be slow (to market-lol) in Q4 and you will see a really big push on the enterprise side. The 45nm Optys don't have to be as fast as Nehalem but if they are close enough in overall platform performance and efficiency I see guys 'Opting' to stick with an upgraded Socket F+. The wraps are coming off HT3 and the smackdown with Quickpath is of more benefit to AMD than fighting the GHz Wars on the desktop with Intel.