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Ati annouces new "All In Wonder" card for $199!

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June 26, 2008 2:06:38 PM

http://ati.amd.com/products/aiwhd/index.html


Thought some of you would like to see a new AIW card soo here it is.

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a c 169 U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 3:01:12 PM

Nice find thanx :) 
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 3:35:02 PM

Somewhat excited about this card. I've been wanting to start migrating systems to Vista and no TV/Record functionality with my (fully functional) AIW X1800XL has been holding me back.

-Wolf sends
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June 26, 2008 3:35:41 PM

uhhh.... 5% to 15% more pwoerful than a HD3650 *cough* weak *cough*.... :pfff: 


the x1900 AIW was truly a beautiful card and the MSRP was alittle higher than $200 if I rememebr but it was not some mainstream POS GPU though... :non: 


wth ati...stop being so gay... :fou: 

but hey if it makes money, who kurrs, right?

YEAH! :lol: 

a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 3:42:01 PM

Would have been nice for it to be an HD3850 or HD3870 level card.
June 26, 2008 3:50:00 PM

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June 26, 2008 3:54:20 PM

FrozenGpu said:
uhhh.... 5% to 15% more pwoerful than a HD3650 *cough* weak *cough*.... :pfff: 


the x1900 AIW was truly a beautiful card and the MSRP was alittle higher than $200 if I rememebr but it was not some mainstream POS GPU though... :non: 



I do know what you mean. I had an AIW Radeon 8500 128 and it was a gamer card for it's generation just like the non AIW version. I had an AIW Radeon 9800 Pro, and it was a gamer card for it's generation. I missed out on the AIW X1900 because I only had P4's with AGP back then and the cards were gone by the time I went Athlon X2 with PCIE.

I really pined away for at least an AIW 3850, and would love to see an AIW 4850. I'd pay the difference for the extra chip onboard. Back when I got the AIW Radeon 9800 Pro, it was almost $100 more than the non AIW version.

If they come out with a gamer card that's also an AIW, then I'd go for it. As is, I'd only put this All in Wonder into an HTPC. Still better than a PCI card as it's not likely to stutter on video due to the aging PCI bus.


June 26, 2008 3:54:35 PM

Bringing back the AIW cards, very nice.
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 4:11:02 PM

Would have been nice, yes, but at 5-15% more powerful than the HD3650, it's more than enough for my (non-gaming) needs.

-Wolf sends
June 26, 2008 4:11:18 PM

These are probably going to run soo hot...I remember my 1900 AIW:| also my 8500 AIW :D  hahajh
June 26, 2008 4:22:52 PM

Folks,

I agree on having higher-end GPU as an option, but in this day and age, the FM radio is too old-school, how about HD radio? If they must shove FM in the package at least throw in AM too.

Rick
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 4:38:23 PM

Quote:
I am sorry, where is it said that it's 10-15% faster than 3650?


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-TV-All-in-Wonder,5...

The graphics chip is based on the previous generation 600-series 55 nm graphics core, clocked at 725 MHz (memory: 600 MHz). AMD claims that the graphics performance of the card will beat a Radeon HD 3650 by 5 to 15% in popular games.

-Wolf sends
June 26, 2008 4:59:15 PM

Quite interesting but all such devices still severly crippled by Hollywood decree.

No HDMI or at least component in. Can't use HD PVR for satellite.
No dolby digital 5.1 recording.

Over the air HD recording could be useful, assuming there were interesting channels.

Digital cable recording useless in Canada.
June 26, 2008 7:05:45 PM

ignamax said:

Digital cable recording useless in Canada.


That's why us Canadians steal your American satellite. :kaola: 
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 26, 2008 9:16:40 PM

ignamax said:
Quite interesting but all such devices still severly crippled by Hollywood decree.

No HDMI or at least component in. Can't use HD PVR for satellite.
No dolby digital 5.1 recording.

Over the air HD recording could be useful, assuming there were interesting channels.

Digital cable recording useless in Canada.


Guess you missed this bit then.
ATI All-in-Wonderâ„¢ HD Accessory Kit*
Upgrade your PC into a media powerhouse with an ATI All-in-Wonderâ„¢ HD accessory kit. The kit adds composite video, S-video, stereo audio input and component output. The perfect addition to your ATI All-in-Wonder HD. :) 

@ xX12amanXx,
You just made my christmas card list :) 
Want one :bounce:  Want one :bounce:  Want one :bounce: 
I agree it would be nice if it was a 3850/4850 and who knows if this sells we may see them(fingers an devery thing else crossed).
Guess what the best HTPC card is now ?
Mactronix :D 
June 26, 2008 10:21:46 PM

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Yikes i'd rather get a standalone TV-card. 5 tp 15% more powerful than HD3650 LOLL is ATI joking or something???


nope they clearly are going for the HTPC crowd, the least the could have done was stuck a 4850 gpu on it...

ronka, on a side note, chill with the trolling, monsta was already reprimanded and it may not matter to you.

but you know you may want to tone it down, just a little bit...
June 26, 2008 11:31:58 PM

4850 would be too power hungry for what they are going after for. I believe "most" people on their HTPC's don't want to have to have it suck up 400+ watts of energy.
Plus the card is more than powerful enough to handle the multimedia work and decoding.
June 27, 2008 12:47:08 AM

terror112 said:
4850 would be too power hungry for what they are going after for. I believe "most" people on their HTPC's don't want to have to have it suck up 400+ watts of energy.
Plus the card is more than powerful enough to handle the multimedia work and decoding.


true no doubt about it. well then why not a RV740, a little but more powerful than a hd3870 [480 as opposed to 320, and other differences] , supposedly rumored to be on 45 nm too. that would be perfect for an AIW card.
a b U Graphics card
June 27, 2008 1:04:08 AM

Intersting. As a former owner of 2 (PCI AIW-128 and 8500DV) nice to see them revive the series.

I'm external now, so won't tempt me back, but maybe having them will help the capture support and vista interfaces on the 650 tuner cards.

ignamax said:

Digital cable recording useless in Canada.


That's not completely true, but yeah Cogeco, Rogers and Shaw have extremely limited QAM HD options, unlike US providers like comcast, etc.

Still nice the few channels you can get 4 here plus music and some on demand.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 27, 2008 9:50:46 AM


So what about Crossfire X then people do you recon these could be teamed with a gaming card and keep all the HTPC abillaties but with the grunt there for gaming ?
Mactronix
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 27, 2008 12:12:46 PM

Was thinking about that as well, Mac (not that I'd try it). Nothing in the specs say anything about the card being Crossfire (or CrossfireX) capable. Best guess would be no.

-Wolf sends

Thinking about it though... Maybe Hybrid CrossfireX capable (when matched with the HD3200)???
Word has it they'll show up in the US sometime next month.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 27, 2008 12:19:39 PM


Thanks for that Wolf,
Guess we keep an eye out for reviews etc in the coming month or so then.
Mactronix :) 
June 27, 2008 9:13:20 PM

I still think they should team up the AIW function with something like the rv740, especially if what they say about the 45nm production, although i have no clue when that would happen.

keeping in mind the source was fudzilla, which i'm not sure how reliable it is or isn't
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 27, 2008 10:38:09 PM

In years past, we've seen the 9800, X800, X1900; all top (or near top) of the line All-In-Wonder cards. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see in the months/years ahead the 4650 HD-AIW, 4850 HD-AIW, 5850 Super HD-AIW, and so on. :D 

-Wolf sends
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2008 12:10:41 AM

It depends on how well they can fit the GPU power circuitry and AIW interface elements on the board without lengthening it.

The X800 caused them fits in board design, and with the X1900 they crippled the card a bit in making the AIW version.

I don't know if they would be able to easily fit all the required hardware on a current high end HD3K or 4K board.

A daughter board would help, but at that point, might as well just get a TV wonder and the best components for the Graphics and Tuner separately on their own boards.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 28, 2008 1:41:45 PM


Here we go again they anounce a great HTPC card and all we want is more :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2008 3:38:05 PM

Introducing the "XXxxxXX", dissatisfaction guaranteed !! :D 
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