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terror112   06-26-2008 at 05:15:17 PM

hello everybody. I was just wondering why I got such a low score in 3Dmark06 with my 4850... My processor is fast enough, my PSU supply's enough power, I have sufficient cooling and for some reason my score is lower than my 8800GTS320!

 

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SM2.0 score 3914
SM3.0 score 5211
CPU score 2873

 

So my conclusion is that the 4800 series really sucks at sm2.0 which is completely irrelevant anyway? Like I saw the fps dip to 15 in the 2.0 test and the fps rise to 80 in the 3.0 test, so I can also conclude that the drivers suck really bad??

 

Also I notice in the Deep freeze benchmark, I receive double the fps that I previously had.


Message edited by terror112 on 06-26-2008 at 05:27:27 PM
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the last resort   06-26-2008 at 05:22:25 PM
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drivers, and the program isnt ready for the new tech so much

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njalterio   06-26-2008 at 05:27:20 PM
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Your CPU score is only 2873?

What processor are you using?

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blackwidow_rsa   06-26-2008 at 05:32:02 PM
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Probably an AMD
edit: dammit, i was always a bad reader


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njalterio   06-26-2008 at 05:32:55 PM
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Ah I did not notice your signature. Your e6750 should be doing much better then that.


Also, I added the scores you posted. You have 12k not 10k overall, right?

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terror112   06-26-2008 at 05:36:10 PM
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I looked at toms a while back at the CPU Scores and it looks to be ok. I remember the E8500 scored 2900. what do you get? 10k overall...

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terror112   06-26-2008 at 05:41:17 PM
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I was looking through comparisons in ORB and I notice a lot of people receiving only 10K in 3Dmark06 with the 4850:

http://service.futuremark.com/sear [...] system=116

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tonyn84   06-26-2008 at 05:49:19 PM
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So you're telling us the results of a synthetic benchmark, what are you getting in the games you play, are they different from the reviews out there? 3dmark is nice but its only a tool.
If you can't tell the fps, go get the fraps demo (www.fraps.com) which puts a counter in the corner of the screen.

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terror112   06-26-2008 at 06:23:43 PM
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HA!!! can anybody say EPICFAIL!!!!???? I press APPLY to Disable 4xAA and 16x AF.... So now my new score is:

Total: 11610

 

sm2.0: 4758
sm3.0: 5662
cpu score: 2874

 

wow, so these cards can really handle AA and AF :)

 

EDIT: so if it was paired with a QX9650 @4ghz it would be comparable to the 14k score they where getting lol....


Message edited by terror112 on 06-26-2008 at 06:24:48 PM
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nachowarrior   06-26-2008 at 06:49:36 PM
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i have ati 3870, and i turn quality settings up in catylist to play games, You want to make sure they're all set to application controlled or even off in catylist. They make a huge difference in 3dmark06 for some reason? But when i'm playing games they don't have that much of an ill effect for the most part. Anway, yeah 4850=sexy. Good luck getting your score tweaked up (i got over 10k with my 3870 paired with a 5000+be clocked to 3.2ghz, and no oc on the card.:-p)

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deuce271   06-26-2008 at 07:05:46 PM
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Who cares about 3dmark scores?

Whats your fps in games you play? That's what actually matters...

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sciggy   06-26-2008 at 07:11:17 PM
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Did you pay for full version of 3dMark06? I can't control the AA or AF with the free version. Didn't think it was worth it to pay to use the software.

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terror112   06-26-2008 at 07:18:24 PM
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Well I tried to play COH but the fps is capped at 60... but with everything maxed 4x aa 4x af I get an average of 57.6 fps and a max of exactly 60 so I'm guessing it enabled v-sync, even though I turned it off in CCC. and the Min fps was 30... yea it's v-sync

------------------------------ // Intel C2D E6750 @ 3.2ghz 1.35v // Asus P5K P35 // 2gb Patriot 1000mhz // Sapphire HD4850 @700core 1100mem // Antec neo 500 HE // Antec 900 // SB X-FI // WD 250gb Sata-2 //
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terror112   06-26-2008 at 07:59:59 PM
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Well, I finally figured out the problem. now the max fps is 244 average 124 min 40.. And I notice quite a difference with AA enabled vs my old card.

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bpogdowz   06-26-2008 at 08:08:16 PM
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SM 2.0 is more dependent on cpu clock. CPU clock adversaly effects SM 2.0. higher cpu clock = higher SM 2.0 score whereas with SM 3.0 there is a point where it turns purely graphic card dependant where SM 3.0 score doesn't increase with higher CPU clock. This is the clock speed I would stop my CPU OC at because SM 2.0 games are less graphically intense and usually don't need the higher CPU clock for the extra FPS because FPS is already at VSYNC.


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terror112   06-26-2008 at 08:21:12 PM
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Yea, as well as temps go, my system is doing very nice. I just bought an antec 900 case and I have the whole wind tunnel with dual fans going as well as the window fan. Plus I received three free tricool fans from my antec case because Antec said that it had accidentally put fans that did not pass QC into some cases.. out of 10000 cases that have already been packaged. So now I have three extra fans that I used for the optional slots on the case, since none of the fans on mine are defective I have an extra fan laying around... As for the temps on the card, looking into ccc it is idling at 55C, not bad compared to 80C ppl where reporting on idle. and on full load it goes to about 70-80C max. PLENTY of airflow in my case :)

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nachowarrior   06-27-2008 at 12:52:13 AM
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there you go. stupid v-sync. :-p

I think that once they optimize the drivers a bit for the new 48xx series we will see a decent performance increase. my 3dmark06 score alone went up by almost 1k points from the first driver release the the most recent one (8.5, 8.6 won't run right for some reason) and a noticeable difference in fps in games by anywhere from 2-20 averages.

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terror112   06-27-2008 at 01:28:34 AM
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Nice, I hope ATI will release new drivers soon! I might get a second 4850 and CF them in the future, or maby even get a 4870 and xfire it with my current card. probably around when the nehalem comes out.


Message edited by terror112 on 06-27-2008 at 01:29:49 AM
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