Gainward goes ATI Print E-mail
Written by Slobodan Simic
Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:06
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Grabs a piece of the HD 4800 pie
The green loving Gainward has ditched the Nvidia exclusivity and has prepped its HD 4800 series graphics cards. The reason is probably as simple as it can be; DAAMIT has great products with its HD 4800 series and Gainward simply wants to be a part of it.
Gainward is going to announce reference designed HD 4850 and HD 4870 cards. We have seen this happen when Nvidia launched its 8-series cards, and this time it's the other way around. Let's just hope, for Nvidia's sake, that Gainward is the only "Nvidia exclusive" partner that will announce the HD 4800 series.
Gainward's mothership a big graphic company that starts with a P has been doing ATI for a while and since Gainward is now run by ex ATI chap from Taiwan, it kind of make sense that this will happen.
So Gainward finally went DAAMIT leaving only few to be Nvidia only.
i don't believe it, rats leaving a sinking ship
I don't think Palit is Nvidia exclusive, however they are releasing 4800 series cards as well
If there is a market to be had somewhere, then its reasonable to expect companies to exploit it - I don't really understand why Gainward wouldn't sell both cards like Palit is; but I guess Palit is a much better company than Gainward for that matter.
I personally hope EVGA goes ATI, as I like ATI's current lineup, but I like EVGA's step up and customer service.
The only exclusives Nvidia has now are EVGA and XFX. XFX would do ATI cards before EVGA would, EVGA has devoted to much time and money into their piece of crap 750i FTW board and what not. Thing was touted as the cheapest PCIE2.0 board, cheapest Nvidia 7 series chipset......it went from $140 to $190 in a week and has been at $190 since then.
I like EVGA and they are the only Nvidia brand I fully trust, but they price most of their products well over average. The warranty and Step-up arent really worth it, truly.
Plus, there really is no telling how much money these companies are actually LOSING on Nvidia due to having to pump out another revision of the same damn card every month that competes with their own products.
I don't know what gives you the idea that the 750I FTW is a piece of crap, i'm a very happy owner of this product lol
The warranty and step up are the icing on the cake of their customer service. Evga has excellent service actually, they will literally bend over backwards for you in RMA situations unlike a lot of companies which are more than happy to send you back the same broken products 8 times and then be like "oh sorry about that, here have a coupon" like Asus, for instance.
As far as pricing really goes spathotan, I find the products are rarely more expensive than any other competing brand - and when they are, you can knock that up to additional service if you want :X
I think Gainward has done an ASUS and is supporting both.
Yes I saw the Gainward HD4850 on Fudzilla but I've also found these:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=831077
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=831078
| ovaltineplease wrote : I don't know what gives you the idea that the 750I FTW is a piece of crap, i'm a very happy owner of this product lol
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Like I said, I like EVGA, I hold nothing against the services the company offers. But they make some really bad calls on the pricing of their products. But to be honest XFX does the same thing, $30 more for an extra 20mhz overclock.
come on!business is there to make money. if there is a chance they will take it. if you come up with a gtx 280 beater any brand will come to use. its no who ditch who, as gainward still make nvidia card.
Isn't BFG Nvidia exclusive? I've never seen them release an ATI card that I know of.
| ronka wrote : EVGA only go for the best, in this case they will remain on NV's bandwagon |
Well, the 4800 series are the best by a fairly large margin in their price class, especially the 4870. So, by your reasoning, EVGA should go with ATI.
| spathotan wrote : Like I said, I like EVGA, I hold nothing against the services the company offers. But they make some really bad calls on the pricing of their products. But to be honest XFX does the same thing, $30 more for an extra 20mhz overclock. |
You pay for them to bench the products, there is nothing wrong with buying the stock version and verifying your overclock limit on your own
$30 for lets say an hour of benching is actually really not that expensive.
| mathiasschnell wrote : Isn't BFG Nvidia exclusive? I've never seen them release an ATI card that I know of. |
The big 3 AIB as far as nvidia goes are BFG Tech, EVGA and XFX. They are all Nvidia exclusive as far as I know.
however Didn't Palit acquire gainward?
I have never seen Gainward being sold on newegg for that matter etiehr, must be big in Taiwan or Europe or something like that?
Gainward went bankrupt in the US and pulled out of the N.Am market, focusing on Europe and Asia.
They used to be the best nVidia maker with their Golden Sample cards , but like Hercules on the ATi side they found competing to be difficult when the mid-level makers started releasing moded cards and neither IHV allowed them much freedom back then.
| iluvgillgill wrote : come on!business is there to make money. if there is a chance they will take it. if you come up with a gtx 280 beater any brand will come to use. its no who ditch who, as gainward still make nvidia card. |
yes there there to make cash but its up to the director to set a price that satisfies the shareholders and makes some profit for there partners, you set that price to high and you risk a backlash from the guy on the street. just look at what is happening with nvidia just now they try and squeeze every last penny/cent from the consumer and they are paying the price for there greed
| TheGreatGrapeApe wrote : Gainward went bankrupt in the US and pulled out of the N.Am market, focusing on Europe and Asia.
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So that means even though they will be releasing Ati cards it's won't be in the U.S., say it sin;'t so greatgrapeape, say it isn't so!
And Nvidia will ditch them when they release GTX280X2
| FrozenGpu wrote : So that means even though they will be releasing Ati cards it's won't be in the U.S., say it sin;'t so greatgrapeape, say it isn't so! |
That may change, but right now they don't have a presence in the N.American market.
| concrum wrote : And Nvidia will ditch them when they release GTX280X2 |
Sure, that'll help, just cut off your suppliers who are already miffed at you to help increase sales making your product even more niche and hard to find?
As for the GX2, not gonna happen with the G200 core. You'd need the 55nm refresh to definitely go 256bit GDDR5 for that to happen, and also reduce the heat for the GPU pressing right into the back of the card in front of it.
| concrum wrote : And Nvidia will ditch them when they release GTX280X2 |
Such a noobish and extremely naive thing to say, no?
| FrozenGpu wrote : Such a noobish and extremely naive thing to say, no? |
Yeah, even if yo were to just point out the ATi's are the X2 and the nVidias are the GX2.
take it easy on him... only 5 posts
Alright, but only because you asked nicely.
| TheGreatGrapeApe wrote : Alright, but only because you asked nicely. |
lol, ok fine, but you know that the thermal, acoustic, and other problems you would run into on a 65 nm GTX280Gx2, right?????????
It would be impossible for them to make any money on it , if any at all could be made, Nvidia does not have a choice but to wait for a 55nm first b4 they even attempt something so foolish....
| FrozenGpu wrote : lol, ok fine, but you know that the thermal, acoustic, and other problems you would run into on a 65 nm GTX280Gx2, right????????? |
Well I think I mentioned the thermal issue directly. The Accounstics never matter much because they don't applify much when added together, and depending on intelligence of the HSf you could have sympathetic noise cancelation.
But overall the PCB design would be a nightmare, the heat would be a serious issue with the chips so close together, and the power draw would be very interesting since a single card requires a 6+8 pin while getting 75W from the single slot, well that would mean an 8+8+8+8 pin configuration to allow for the same single slot to handle the GX2.
Yeah I think it's very unlikely for many reasons, but stranger things have happened.
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