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HoustonSerenity   06-29-2008 at 08:23:02 AM

Looking for solid reviews of the 4870 from some trusted sites.
I have not seen any from sites that I frequent. Please hyper link thanks.
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HoustonSerenity   06-29-2008 at 09:04:06 AM
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I guess by the reviews just CF the 4850 and forget the 4870.

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 09:10:32 AM
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Heres a site that lists most of them http://nwgat.wordpress.com/2008/06 [...] 0-roundup/ XFire is of course one solution. It brings with it its own positives and negatives. And, if games actually become challenging to cards again, a 4870 would be XFiable too

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HoustonSerenity   06-29-2008 at 09:24:02 AM
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I guess what I am saying Jaydeejohn is I wanted the 4870 to be much better then the 4850 but the reviews are not bearing this out :( and most reviews seem to be the same. That is why I started this thread maybe I was missing something but alas I was not.

But are the current CPUs bottle necking these things, maybe?
With the DDR 5 and RPS I was looking for at least 20% increase

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 09:47:54 AM
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I see at least a 20% increase in most benches, show us where that isnt so....CoD4 20% http://techreport.com/articles.x/14990/9 WiC 20% http://arstechnica.com/reviews/har [...] view.ars/2 Theres others too, almost all. The real wonder has been it often does better than its 20% core clock , which shows a slight BW bottleneck on the 4850 vs the 4870, where it gets way over the clock difference


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petevsdrm   06-29-2008 at 10:31:44 AM
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In my opinion, Anandtech is my most trusted site for hardware reviews. I read others, but I tend to base my decisions off of what Anand has to say about it. I think it's because I have never seen that site show any bias at all towards any manufacturer or company, they just give me the straight dope about hardware. But hey, again, that just my opinion.

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HoustonSerenity   06-29-2008 at 10:43:02 AM
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Jaydee here is one

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1 [...] index.html

But im checking out Anadtech now (book marked it) and it seems to have alot more depth and shows 4870 >4850 by a good margen

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 11:03:21 AM
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Agreed, Anands is good. Again in CoD4 we see over a 20% increase in fps with the 4870 vs the 4850 http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=14

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 11:06:26 AM
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Ive read them all. Good stuff. The Tech Report is very good this time

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pcgamer12   06-29-2008 at 11:08:01 AM
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4870 is about 20-30% faster than 4850.

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 11:36:58 AM
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Where we will see the majority of cpu bottlenecking is in Crysis and any cf/sli setups playing high demanding cpu games, with multiple AI scenarios with high useage of physics etc. Theres a few games that are somewhat cpu slowed, but as time goes along, we will see more. And by cpu slowed , I mean, something thatll give good playable increases in game that actually make a difference, and above regular clocks, which is currently mostly 3 to 3.2Ghz. You can get better play cranking to 3.6 in a few games, that actually helps game play, esp sli/cf in higher res

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Paris Lee   06-29-2008 at 11:54:22 AM
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30% faster than 4850.

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pogsnet   06-29-2008 at 12:07:15 PM
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Crysis is just a bad programming game!


Everybody is waiting for STARTCRAFT II
Less requirements, pure intellectually made game. Thats what a game should be.


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blackwidow_rsa   06-29-2008 at 12:10:50 PM
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I guess people that moan that games arn't well programmed don't know one bit of programming, let alone programming a game.

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pogsnet   06-29-2008 at 12:17:23 PM
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I am a programmer so I know which games are badly programmed.


Games should be optimized now for multi core processing and multi stream VC's or able to adjust itself which best suited for best performance and take less resources as much as possible like most games that hit. Though most blizzard games are using old engine except this SC 2 atleast, its still able to adjust and accept old PC's less the enhancements of graphics and extra processing.

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jaydeejohn   06-29-2008 at 12:36:25 PM
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For me, to appreciate a good review/bench is a few key things. One is consistancy. One that you yourself can do, it elimanates the "trust" factor. If theyre using the same setup, the same in game settings, a variety of games, allowing for the strengths of all cards to show, as well as the weaknesses. Some review sites require too much trust in their particular methods, which is not a good sign. If I cant reproduce it, or something very similar, then I might as well go to several and take an average. The technical side is important as well. To me maybe more than others, but even new comers can at least get a grasp as to what makes their cards tick, and why. This helps in a wider understanding of games, and how theyre opytimized, and how theyll most likely play on your hardware, so in the end, its helpful. Temp readings and power readings are crucial, and alot of sites arent thurough enough, especially on the power usage, whether its the amount of time to actually find the real highs and lows, or just doing it correctly from the get go. Theres alot that goes into good benching, and if you read alot of them, youll soon start to see whos doing it right, who isnt, and those that require you to trust them

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blackwidow_rsa   06-29-2008 at 12:51:48 PM
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pogsnet wrote :

I am a programmer so I know...Though most blizzard games are using old engine except this SC 2 atleast, its still able to adjust and accept old PC's less the enhancements of graphics and extra processing.

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yet people forget you can put crysis on LOW and then it runs fine on an old system. Crysis was made to bring systems to its knees, while i agree that sli/cf could use much work. I played through crysis with a p4 3.0 and a 8500gt.
SC2 was designed from ground up to be playable on old systems, just like WC3 before it.

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