I run 3dmark again, 1078.768.32bit, no AA &no AF, HDR/SM3.0 socre is 1103.
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I get MSI GF 8600 gts. I run 3dmark06,
1024,768,32bit, 4AA , 8AF,
gpu clock 700 MHz ( overclock),
3DMark Score 3253
3DMarks SM2.0 Score 1447
HDR/SM3.0 Score 1095
CPU Score 1504
tomshardware get 3dmark score-1831, my gf 8600 lower than Tomshardware close 700 point.
what happen ? My cpu is amdx2 3800, (2g . 393 slot. DDR 800) power sullies is 350W, vedio card have other power sullies (235w).
Message edited by kingandq on 06-29-2008 at 09:49:11 PM
Well, if that is the case... It seems..... Somewhat normal.... Slightly lower, but not too low.... As my Athlon64 X2 3800 @ 2320Mhz and GeForce 7600GS gets about 2950 points.
just run it at the standard settings which are 1280x1024 no AA no AF, that's what Tom's does and everyone else. You should see an improvement with those settings. Just start the program and click run, don't mess with anything. With those settings I get about 13500.
Message edited by ausch30 on 06-29-2008 at 12:57:18 PM
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i doubt only ur PSU. screw wattage, wats the amps dat ur +12v rails get. my suggestion is get a coolermaster extreme power plus 460w, or any decent reputed PSU(antec,coolermaster,OCZ etc etc). make sure u have 22a on the +12v rail. u'll have adequet power then.
i doubt only ur PSU. screw wattage, wats the amps dat ur +12v rails get. my suggestion is get a coolermaster extreme power plus 460w, or any decent reputed PSU(antec,coolermaster,OCZ etc etc). make sure u have 22a on the +12v rail. u'll have adequet power then.
Cooler Master Extreme Power is a Tier 5 PSU which is a don't buy. Buy a PSU from either tier 1 or 2 and you will have stable power for years to come. Something like this, The cheapest tier 2 PSU in the wattage range you should be looking for. Or this which is an even better choice, tier 1
Message edited by ausch30 on 06-29-2008 at 01:42:35 PM
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How do you know its tier 5 when its not on the list??? The extreme power isnt on the list, let alone the extreme power plus so where do you get this info??
The coolermaster extreme power plus 460w is made by AcBel Polytech, which according to your list is a Tier 3 company. Now I'm not saying its a great psu, I'm just saying get your facts straight.
By the way I have the extreme power 600w (cheaper quality than the plus) and I have been running a heavy overclock (1.86ghz to 3.26ghz) for 2 years now with no issues. I've also used the 550's in over 2 dozen workstations a year ago and have had no issues yet.
It lists Cooler Master under tier 5 which is an all inclusive every other Cooler Master model which isn't listed above. What can I say, you got a good one. Going by that list just makes it less likely you will have a problem, there are still PC Power PSU's which are DOA or die after a month. I just don't think it's stressed enough how important a quality PSU is to the overall health and stability of a system. Too many people, trying to save a buck, just get the cheapest model and wonder why their having problems.
Message edited by ausch30 on 06-29-2008 at 02:55:25 PM
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You have 4xaa and 8xaf on. 8600gts is a budget card that can't handle aa/af and takes a huge performance hit when they're turned on.
As for psu, don't get too crazy about the brands. Cheaper brands tends to have higher defective rate, but chances are still low. If it works, it works.
You have 4xaa and 8xaf on. 8600gts is a budget card that can't handle aa/af and takes a huge performance hit when they're turned on.
As for psu, don't get too crazy about the brands. Cheaper brands tends to have higher defective rate, but chances are still low. If it works, it works.
It's not about being defective it's about the stability of the rail(s) and the stability of the power being fed to your components. It's about the quality of the components that are used in it's manufacture and their longevity as well as the longevity and performance of your system.
It's not about being defective it's about the stability of the rail(s) and the stability of the power being fed to your components. It's about the quality of the components that are used in it's manufacture and their longevity as well as the longevity and performance of your system.
That is also up to luck, to a degree. There are some supposedly bad brand psus with perfectly stable rail voltage even on heavy load. It's hardly consistant across the board for a brand or even a model.
If I am wrong I apologize for offending but I still stand by the importance of buying a quality unit rather than just any old PSU and saying "if it works it works"
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I said tier 1 or 2. Tier 3 is ok but you could buy a tier 2 PSU for around the same money so why not go for the superior unit. Also saying Cooler Master or OCZ or FSP is a good brand is misleading. They all might make quality units but they also make some less desirable models. OCZ GameXstream is good OCZ PowerXstream isn't so good, Thermaltake Toughpower is good Thermaltake Purepower isn't as good.
It lists Cooler Master under tier 5 which is an all inclusive every other Cooler Master model which isn't listed above.
You couldnt be more wrong. Thats like saying all Kia's are in the same class. The old ones were POS's and the new ones have 10yr/100,000mi warranty's.
You think a long warranty means the car is reliable? LOL... too funny. I guess that's why Honda and Toyota have 36k mile warranties. They know their cars are solid, we know their cars are solid and they set their warranty policy accordingly.
The list was written quite a while ago and although they have updated it recently I'm quite sure they haven't gotten around to retesting everybody's updated models. It is possible that since the list Cooler Master started producing higher quality units that have raised their standing.
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Honda and Toyota do not have 36k mile warranties. I just bought a Toyota Matrix with a lifetime warranty and my girlfriend just bought a 2 year old HOnda with a 5yr/50,000 mi warranty, and thats a used Honda.
Warranty length is an indication of quality, whether you believe it or not.
Your facts are complete fiction as usual Rodney.
We got off topic a while ago but now it's really off topic. Auto companies give long warranties to attract buyers. None of them actually expect you to own your car for 10 yrs or 100,000 miles so it's not much of a risk for them to give such a warranty. The average person owns a car for 4 yrs, After that they go to Certified Used Cars which usually have a 4 or 5 yr warranty but they charge more for the car so the extra cost covers anything that might go wrong.
Message edited by ausch30 on 06-29-2008 at 03:55:25 PM
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And I still stand by the fact that you dont need a power supply listed as Tier 1 to build a great dependable system. Its about what your willing to pay and the warranty you get.. If you want to build a high end system, then use high end components. If yoru the average Joe, you dont need a Tier 1.
Yep, and besides, I've personally been screwed by a defective tier 2 psu before. It was completely unstable. Changed it to a tier 4 psu, which has perfectly stable rail output even on high load.
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