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June 11, 2008 8:09:05 PM

Our company is looking at building something like...ridiculous...to take to the county fair this year to kind of unveil a new line of high performance machines. They asked me to put together a parts list for a non-skulltrail machine, someone else is doing a skulltrail build (Im assuming its going to be about 2 grand more.)

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower W0156RU 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Yorkfield 3.2GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 136W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 2x OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video: 2x EVGA 01G-P3-N897-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 SSC 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: 3x Raid 5 Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: EVGA 132-CK-NF79-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI DDR3 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


They wanted to use this case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But by all means recommend me something else. They didn't want to look at water cooling yet.

Newegg price this is slightly over 5 grand without OS or optical drives.
June 11, 2008 8:32:33 PM

I would run VelociRaptor drives in Raid 0 on something like this.
June 11, 2008 8:49:46 PM

Swap PSU for a Corsair 1kW. Your company has money to burn.
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June 11, 2008 8:54:54 PM

so your company wants to show off products but ur buying products what does ur company you work for make :)  also nice pick on the CPU u can get a cheaper one for 339 and its the same but its 2.66 ghz :) 

also do 8gigs x 8gigs ram.
June 11, 2008 9:03:39 PM

keep the raid 5 just add a velociraptor raid 0
June 11, 2008 9:03:59 PM

Quote:
so your company wants to show off products but ur buying products what does ur company you work for make :)  also nice pick on the CPU u can get a cheaper one for 339 and its the same but its 2.66 ghz

Agreed.
Also if your company dose OCing and the likes set up a liquid cooling set up that's OCed. (LN2 might be better :D  )
June 11, 2008 9:05:25 PM

gadgetnerd said:
so your company wants to show off products but ur buying products what does ur company you work for make :)  also nice pick on the CPU u can get a cheaper one for 339 and its the same but its 2.66 ghz :) 

also do 8gigs x 8gigs ram.

They just asked for a parts list, we have distribution paths that we would go through to get the parts, not newegg.

June 11, 2008 9:07:57 PM

What are you going to be doing with it at the Country fair? If you're not just going to sit it there and give out a laundry list of parts, then you might be able to pick some more specialized parts to make it really shine in your demonstrations. Like if you're just showing games you could probably go for a higher over-clocked single core, but if you're going to show any kind of rendering you definitely want all 4 cores.

Definitely go with the velociraptors. I love mine. I'd go for 8 gigs of ram too if you arn't overclocking. If you plan to overclock, then it'll be harder to get high FSB ratings with 4 2 gig dimms.

If you're dropping that kind of dime on a PSU I'd go for a PCP&P, but I'm sure that thermaltake will do just fine.

If your timeline isn't too soon you can probably wait on the new lines of vid cards coming out. They'll likely outperform your listed video cards.

That's a good enough case. Personally, if you want top of the line I'd probably go for a Lian Li. However, their cases generally don't have the omg look at me appeal that a lot of the other cases offer.

You should probably make use of the window too and install a nice big aftermarket CPU cooler. Maybe drop in some cold cathodes or something for the kids.
June 11, 2008 9:11:08 PM

You're displaying that in the Hyundai of cases.

Put that mammoth in a Lian Li Armorsuit pls :wahoo: 
June 11, 2008 9:11:39 PM

Would go for something stylish like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112057
Don't know what group your company tries to target but I believe that a lot of ppl. disgust those LED covered space monsters.
Just take a look at Apple's huge success, I don't think that comes from performance ;) 

Just my two cents, good luck with the build.
June 11, 2008 9:48:04 PM

Mainly we'e going to be running some games on the machine, we're not allowed to run particularly violent games because my company is lame.

So no Crysis.

So we're probably going to do a racing game like GRID, maybe a RTS like supreme commander or something else we can find, and we might put LOTRO on it just for the sake of DX10 compatibility and how pretty that game can be.

My heart is broken for no crysis though :( 


As for the case, they really did want kind of a LOOK AT ME model, otherwise a Lian Li would have been ideal. I'll see if I can steer them towards it.

I'll also bring up the idea of the multi raid, 2x veloci in raid 0 and then maybe do 2x 1tb drives mirrored or 3x 1tb drives in raid 5.
June 11, 2008 9:57:36 PM

i would just build a case no 1 has seen befor.. make it out of cookies ;X
June 11, 2008 9:59:40 PM

I would have put in 15k rpm SAS hard drives for the ultimate performance. You could always do a dual Xeon and be right on the Skulltrail's heels...

What displays are you using for this?
Anonymous
June 12, 2008 12:46:17 AM

run crysis benchmarks...

those aren't violent and yet they show off the graphics... also run WiC instead of supcom...
June 12, 2008 1:25:13 AM

yeah, I also want to ask the question - what kind of display are you using?

and I agree with someone up there...spend the PSU money on a PCP&C rather than a thermaltake. They're nice units and all, but PCP&C is better. Guess it doesn't matter too much, they're all high end.

Sound? Better go with a nice pair of speakers, if you're going to. Whether you need a dedicated sound card or not is up to great debate, but the speakers matter much more than the card, as long as the two are compatible.

Have you thought about an aftermarket CPU cooler, too?
June 12, 2008 1:43:16 AM

1971Rhino said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043&Tpk=antec%2btwelve

^^That Case^^

Black on the inside = bad a$$

People will be dropping their turkey legs, deep fried snickers, and funnel cakes when they see this....just don't let them drop them near the fans!

you will get so much TANG!


awesome. That would deffinitally have the "look at me" look to it, plus you get great cooling for your gx2s. I don't really think the xaser looks that good.

The thermaltake armor+ is a pretty good one as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Great design for easily adding hd's and the like.
June 12, 2008 3:41:42 AM

mofish said:
Our company is looking at building something like...ridiculous...to take to the county fair this year to kind of unveil a new line of high performance machines. They asked me to put together a parts list for a non-skulltrail machine, someone else is doing a skulltrail build (Im assuming its going to be about 2 grand more.)

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower W0156RU 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Yorkfield 3.2GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 136W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 2x OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video: 2x EVGA 01G-P3-N897-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 SSC 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: 3x Raid 5 Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: EVGA 132-CK-NF79-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI DDR3 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


They wanted to use this case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But by all means recommend me something else. They didn't want to look at water cooling yet.

Newegg price this is slightly over 5 grand without OS or optical drives.



If you get that motherboard/graphics card combination be sure to have the most recent bios; old bios have reported issues with 9800 GX2 - there was a rather long thread on it in the Graphics and Display forum here.

Otherwise, looks pretty cool; one other thing - Lian Li's newest armorsuit has a lot of the features that thermaltake case has, except it weighs 3 kgs less ed: wait, I lied - they only have the weight for the Mid Tower PC-60, the PC-80 doesn't have a weight, but it is full alluminum =P. But the look is totally different. If you like the thermaltake look then I can see why you would choose it over others.
June 12, 2008 4:04:27 AM

which ever way you go dont forget led fans and cold cathodes they are the best for look at me type cases
June 12, 2008 8:30:29 AM

Shadow703793 said:
SAS card for what? :lol: 

If you went for the 15k rpm SAS hard drives.
June 12, 2008 3:16:38 PM

If you're going to drop that kind of dime on HDDs to play like 4 games why not just buy one of those ridiculous mtron Solid state drives? Space shouldn't be much of an issue and you'll be spending roughly the same once you figure what a decent raid card costs and what SAS drives will run you. You could still do the 1tb drives in raid or something for backup purposes.

I'd also look for benchies on those card game combinations. SLI on X2 cards may or may not bring any benefit to the games, so you'd want to pick something different, either game or cards, if that is the case. I don't think the company would be happy to spend 8k on a rig that stutters due to driver issues.

I also like the idea of the cookie case, though beware of the fat kids. Also make sure your booth is far away from the petting zoo, you can't trust those goats. They are both crafty and vicious!
June 12, 2008 7:34:50 PM

actually while your at it why not get 3x 9800 gx2, you've got money to burn apperently
June 12, 2008 9:41:22 PM

Just curious what size monitor(s) is this going to run? Just curious....
June 13, 2008 12:55:13 AM

Any thing less than 30" is a waste.
June 13, 2008 2:24:45 AM

^ make that 40
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