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Returning 9800GTX XXX for a 4850... Good idea?

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 12:41:37 AM

I just bought a 9800GTX. It will not support DVI on my Gateway FPD2275W LCD monitor. Have looked at scores of posts since problem began.

I am surprised the nVidea problem was not more spoken of.... either way...was always an nVidea fan

Not anymore!!! Driver support pissed me off.... Seems problem is a year old now. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am shipping it back in the AM. I am either buying a 4850 or a 4870. You tell me!!!!!!!!!!!

My system is in my signature. I plan on getting a slightly bigger monitor in the future.

Will the 4850 be enough for now or is the extra $100 worth it for the 4870.

Play WOW, BF2, MoH, flight sims, like to try Crysis.......

Need to order today....

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 12:42:53 AM
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FYI I can xfire in future too

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dagger   06-30-2008 at 12:44:02 AM
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The 4850 perform the same as 9800gtx. 4870 perform better, so ideally, get 4870.

 

Crossfire depends on your motherboard.


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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 12:49:29 AM
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My issue is the 9800 does not perform at all. The driver will not support my current monitor. If I am keeping this monitor for a year will the 4850 suffice...can always upgrade later

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dagger   06-30-2008 at 12:52:34 AM
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Gr8Timz wrote :

My issue is the 9800 does not perform at all. The driver will not support my current monitor. If I am keeping this monitor for a year will the 4850 suffice...can always upgrade later


What if 4850/70 doesn't work with your monitor either? If it works with everyone else's monitor, it's the monitor's problem. :p

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dragonsprayer   06-30-2008 at 12:55:17 AM
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if you have a sli mobo i would keep it
if your main game is crysis i would keep it

if your case cooling is bad i would keep it

remembver the 4870 blows in the case not out - if you have a crossifire mobo i would get it

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 01:00:30 AM
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I'm with you on that. I found the post below and it appears it happens with numerous monitors but the one thing in common appears to be the nVidea driver. I would love to keep my 9800 but I'm pretty sure the driver that supports it and my monitor will not be corrected.

If I have the same issue with a replacement I will get a new monitor and will be asking those questions on these boards in a few days.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=33671


I just need an experienced push towards the 4850, 4870 or still trying to fix my current issue. I just think the issue is a driver from nVidea that will not support some LCD monitors and I cant play my games this evening.....

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pcgamer12   06-30-2008 at 01:01:30 AM
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dagger   06-30-2008 at 01:02:08 AM
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Have you tried a different driver, there are quite a few to choose from.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 01:03:20 AM
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My mobo is Gigabyte EP45-DS3R 45 chipset and has x-fire support. It actually does not mention SLI so prolly porked myself from the beginning out of nVidea admiration.

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 01:03:58 AM
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I only tried the nVidea one but will load one from that site to check it out...

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The_Blood_Raven   06-30-2008 at 03:44:01 AM
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If you are heavy into AA then the 4850 will slightly perform better. The 4850 can be overclocked so that it does not tie the 9800 GTX XXX later down the road. The 4850 should perform better in future games. All this is not very important, if you can fix the problem then keep the 9800 GTX and save on shipping.

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one-shot   06-30-2008 at 04:05:40 AM
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pcgamer12 wrote :

4870, 4850 is the exact same thing.



They sure are the same thing.....because GDDR3 and GDDR5 are the same thing...The clocks are also different as well. But maybe that doesn't mean anything and they are the same......who knows...lol :non:

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JoeyRindone   06-30-2008 at 04:09:04 AM
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Gr8Timz wrote :

I am either buying a 4850 or a 4870. You tell me!!!!!!!!!!!



I ordered a 4850 myself, if you have the budget I say go with the 4870. The gains over the 4850 are pretty impressive. The energy in which you told us to pick a video card for you made me lol for the first time today.

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kelfen   06-30-2008 at 04:44:51 AM
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one-shot wrote :

They sure are the same thing.....because GDDR3 and GDDR5 are the same thing...The clocks are also different as well. But maybe that doesn't mean anything and they are the same......who knows...lol :non:



Well I think they are different in clock speeds. I do not have much knoledge about technical stuff with graphics cards but I been reading their is a sigificant gain between 4850/4870 in performance.

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blerb   06-30-2008 at 04:45:06 AM
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one-shot wrote :

They sure are the same thing.....because GDDR3 and GDDR5 are the same thing...The clocks are also different as well. But maybe that doesn't mean anything and they are the same......who knows...lol :non:


I think you misunderstood, pcgamer is saying that he/she should get the 4870 because the 4850 is almost the same thing as what s/he already has.

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 07:44:23 PM
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Ok, seeing as the 4870s are out of stock........
Should I pull my impatient trigger and get a 4850 for $200 now?
If I am not satisfied now I can X-Fire another one in there later?

I need a push !!!!!!!!!!

I want to play my games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, if the wait for a 4870 is a day I can do it.
If a week, no Johnny Dangerously 'fargin' way.

Who has the scoop?

Who has the testicular fortitude to tell me what to do?

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xx12amanxx   06-30-2008 at 08:14:36 PM
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Get the 4850 unlike others have said it is faster than a 9800gtx by a good bit and even more so at higher resolution or with AA turned on.

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Gr8Timz   06-30-2008 at 09:44:43 PM
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Done! Bought 4850. THANKS!
My 9800 never worked anyways and I am upgrading from a 4 year old comp with a 7600 gs. Should behuge difference for me.
Thanks again!

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rangers   06-30-2008 at 10:02:44 PM
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you'll never look back very good card
but i would order an after market cooler one for a 3850/3870 fits its not a hot chip but they put a crap cooler on it

plus the guy that said 4870 blows in the case not out
has not got a clue what he's talking about
it blows the hot air out unlike the gtx it just blows

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silky1029   07-01-2008 at 12:12:32 AM
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yeah gr8timz good choice the 4850 is the better graphic card out of all the choices. The 9800 is slightly above it performance wise but that extra $75-100 aint worth it. And the 4870 is pretty much the same performance wise and so it aint worth the $100 more. Here is a link below comparing GPUs

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 57-11.html

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killz86   07-01-2008 at 03:48:06 PM
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I am useing a Evga 9800GTX and my LG 22' Widescreen 2ms montior with dvi hooked up and i have no problems. what nvidia driver's are you using? i have my 9800GTX oc/ed to core:800 Shaders:2000 Memory :1200x2=2400 it might be the driver's your using my motherboard is a Evga 750I FTW SLI mobo. and my card dont lock up or freeze. have you tried the new beta nvidia drivers? with the physX software? if you would like i can get the link for the driver's i am using from evga website.


Let me know

Thanks

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