Quad-Core AMD Opteron deliver world record web performance

AMD is going to have a very short life, so it might be a good idea to change your signature.

antonmadcow amd like IBM is seeing the bigger picture.

who buys more cpu's at a PROFITABLE % for a manufacture????



how about the millions of chips sold to cooperations, government institutions " think hospitals, government building, data centers, university's and colleges " and the countless CPU's sold just to maintain the Infer structure known as the internet.

think about if in your data cluster you can do with 700 cpus vs 900 cpus from prior to the upgrade. think of the saving for a data center being space " square footage as good luck renting office space for less then 10$ a square foot per month " cooling , power and the cost to have IT techs to keep the system running. Less is MORE.

now think about if you could save a data center 1 $ per cpu per week in power. now expand your brain past that and think 1000's of cpu's

please take your troll posts elsewhere.

macer1 hence why Intels Larrabee and Nehalem will do well in all those areas.

As for the OP, wow big suprise. AMD does better in multi core CPU systems like always. Wow. Amazing. Oh if they are so good how come AMD has yet to break even?

What does this have to do with the desktop market again?

Does this mean better HD p0rn and fewer gambling losses?

Good for AMD. Hopefully better in the future above 2.3GHz with 'true' HT3. 45nm may shine on the Optys.

I'm still wunderin' when AMD chipsets will roll on the server side ....

jimmysmitty im just stating that at the time when the life cycle of your "data" center or servers are up most management "who sign off on the expense" want to know EVERYTHING.


now if the IT department can with current technology save this company X $$$$ every year with faster equipment then to the management its a no brainer.

and lets be honest most management couldn't tell you the difference between a 3.6 ghz P4 and a e4400. All they see is the big numbers and they are sold on the product.

hell go down to a local best buy and watch people get sold on a bigger LCD over better components in the box...........

Wow! I could feel the sarcasm oozing thru my monitor as I read this...

Regardless, you gotta AMD props for pulling it together with the B3 revisions, especially after the whole TLB debacle. Better late than never in this case.

Albeit, Nehalem and/or Larabee may do well in the same areas, they are essentially unproven in the server market. AMD has already hurdled any issues with implementing an IMC processor and platform, whereas Intel will have some growing pains with Nehalem. And while AMD may have lost a little ground to Xeons in recent Quarters, it's news like this that will further embed and reinforce Opteron in the market making it that much more difficult for IT and Data Centers Managers to switch to a Nehalem platform. The new B3 opterons are a drop in solution for the Skt1207 whereas Nehalem will require an entirely new platform. That's makes it that much more difficult to justify the increased capital expense of a new platform as opposed to a drop in solution.

Yes, there is something weird going on with this thread. You are being incessantly downrated for stating what seems to me to be obvious truths. Even Thunderman cannot deny, AMD's well is is running dry

What evidence do you have that Nehalem will fail? If anything, the evidence shows it will be out earlier than expected, for cheaper than expected, and be a significant boost over Core.

EDIT: I love how a post simply asking for evidence gets rated down so much.

thunderman, your blind fanboyism is truly disgusting. Carry on.

I was being quite sarcastic yes. But here is the interesting part. I do give AMD props for finally getting more Opterons of the B3 stepping out. I just don't see it as relevant to anything if AMDs desktop market is not doing as well.

As for Nehalem, don't judge too early. What happens when people judge a new technology before there are benchmarks? Makes them look bad if they are wrong. Everyone hyped Phenom and it wasn't anything near its hype. Nehalem may be a newbie to the IMC but Intel is not and has tried on several occasions (before AMD) to create them and I am sure they are able to make it work. We will have to wait and see.

LMAO. You forget that Intel has decently priced X38 and X48 mobos that also offer CFX at the same speed (4 8x lanes) as AMD. So lets take a 9950 with 4 4870s (or better yet 2 4870X2s in 2 x16 mode) and a Q6600 OCed to 2.6GHz (to match the 9950) and same either 4 4870s or 2 4870X2s in CFX and see which one will win.

Oh one thing, well two really, if you think AMD is a angel company you are blind. They are just as corrupt as every other company out there and they only want your money like Intel, IBM and all the others. And the second thing, I don't think that winning a moral race will pay the bills. If they fail financially thats it. Nothing short of a miracle can bring them back.

God fanboyism is fun to rip apart.

^LMAO!!!!

It will probably be Core 3 or something to that effect.

^No he should be paying them due to all the damage he is doing....all the posts are just....that stupid....

Well. I used to think he was just a good troll. But now I'm not so sure, I mean, who puts that much effort into being a troll?
So I concluded that he must not be a troll at all, but in fact, a true "believer".

Posts like this may make me start rating some of this drivel. What does this post have to do with me?

The funniest thing about that is that it's the 8356 NOT the 8360SE. I can imagine what the Shanghai @ 2.7GHz will do. From some of the numbers in HPC, Nehalem WON'T close the gap. Intel's own Penryn release numbers show the 2.3Barcelona outrunning a 2.93Penryn and close to a 3.2GHz. I believe Anand posted those numbers a few months ago. LS-DYNA and Fluent were the apps in question.

Got any links? I'd like to know more about Shangai seeing as how AMD seems to be keeping everyone in the dark. If it can beat Nehalem in HPC like you say it can that would be something... Nehalem is going to be a HPC beast.

Find Intel's benchmarks for Penryn server. LS-DYN and Fluent. I'd do it but...

I was going to say what does Penryn have to do with Nehalem? Nehalem is a whole new beast and has a IMC with links as fast as (or faster Im not sure which as I have seen both sayings) AMDs HTT 3.0.

^Agree. I have been lead to believe (from some AMD fans here) that Shanghai is the desktop version of Deneb. Or is it the other way around?

I don't see a die shrink making Barcy get a 25% performance jump. If it was a die shrink and a rework of the arch maybe. But not when its just a die shrink.

I still cannot believe that Baron wants to use Penryns results (considering Penryn is still on the FSB) as proof that Nehalem will not be faster.

I did read that the CSI (QPI now) on the next Itanium, Tulkila?, is as fast as a 4P AMD server. But I am not that sure. And we will have to wait and see the results on both Shanghai and Nehalem, especially Nehalem to see if Intel is able to impliment the IMC and links good.

^Yup. And you notice its only to those who are not AMD fans that are getting graded down. And funny things is most of the ones I get graded down on are either infomation or non AMD bashing just talking.

Its a sad sad world we live in.

Ah, it's just a little toy for those that just think that anything negative about AMD is AMD bashing.
I'm sure this will get voted down, only because of what I typed, even though there is nothing negative towards AMD.
It's just childish behavior.
I frankly don't care, but if they want to make this place into an AMD fansite, there are many already in existence.

Its for anything that seems like AMD bashing or those who have talked negative about AMD beofre or those like me who disagree with BM.

Where I disagree is the crap he spreads and thats all. Fun times.

Soon this site will be crap. It was so nice in the begining.

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^The difference was that he only wanted to use it to block out the troll posts like those by kassler at the time.

Of course you see it never went through until recently.

My keyboard is possessed. I was using Penryn as a baseline. It's(Nehalem) supposedly 20% faster and not due to HyperThreading. See Anand. Things are totally different with K10 (K10.5) in server. We've already seen the proof with this very post. Intel is 500MHz ahead in clockspeed. Well, really 700MHz based on 2356(2.3GHz).

I'm not saying Intel doesn't have a chance but remember there will be no MP Nehalem this year. I heard Q209. Shanghai also upgrades to HT3 links which will really count in heavy multithreaded loads. AMD is being hush-hush because they are emphasizing Deneb improvements. Fudo thinks it will beat Yorkfield.

A 15-20% improvement (reported) over K10 just makes the wall for Nehalem higher, especially in server loads.