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Intel Build Take 2 - Pre-Buy edition

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June 12, 2008 9:18:59 PM

Last month I posted a potential build for me for a new Intel machine. I am now about a week or so from making the purchases for the PC and I wanted your takes on my semi-hard choices:

I may or may not purchase all of the items from Newegg if I find a much better price point elsewhere:
The prices are newegg's before instant/mail-in rebates.

Case:
NZXT Tempest
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120

PSU:
Corsair 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$180

MOBO:
Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$290

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$340

CPU Cooler:
Xigmatek 120mm Rifle & Retention bracket:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$44 Total

Memory:
Corsair Dominator DDR2-1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$189

Video Card:
Either the new 260 or 280
No price point yet

HD: (I might be going a bit overboard with this.... let me know)
2 x 300GB Velociraptors in Raid 0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 7200RPM 750GB in Raid 1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $860

Audio:
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion 70SB046A00003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$180

With the above, plus the arctic silver thermal compound I get a total price of about
$2220 without the video card.

Buying them all from newegg would drop the price about $100 with their instant rebates.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking to overclock the system YET, but I may try to bring the CPU clock up to match the clock speed of the E8500 so that way I could get the clock performance of the best dual core CPU with a very good Quad Core CPU.

See the related thread for my original post.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

Thanks
JR
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June 12, 2008 11:15:08 PM

For motherboard, consider X48 DS4 instead of DQ6. It's almost identical in specs, completely identical in performance, and get slightly higher average user ratings on Newegg (5 instead of 4).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, solid state drives are set to drop in price significantly, as it moves mainstream. It's bad timing to blow $860 on high rpm disk drives that is still far slower than SSD. In just a couple months, you might regret buying those "Velociraptors." Might as well just make do with 1TB models for now for the storage, and add SSD later when price drop. 1TB models cost less than around $190 each now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
They're much slower for continuous reading/writing due to lower rpm, but for random access typical of real world operations, it's actually quite fast due to larger 32mb cache and higher density. Besides, hdd speed don't increase in-game fps, only decrease load time, as everything is loaded into ram on load.
June 13, 2008 12:50:29 AM

If you don't really need that much HD space, if you get 2 X WDAAKS 640 MB HD's you'll probably be very happy and save a lot of money. The 640 is single platter and almost a speedy as the velociraptor.

In benchmarks, RAID 0 makes a difference - in the real world, not much.

If you're going to blow that much money on a high-end enthusiast MB and great air-cooler, it'd be a shame not to overclock. OC'ing your setup to 3+ GHz would be a breeze and take you about 10 minutes (plus 24 hours of testing :)  ) BTW, if you're going to overclock, you should save yourself 70 bucks and just get the Q9300 - it'll overclock to 3+GHz quite easily with that board as well.

Keep in mind that the giant heatsinks on your RAM look cool and all, but probably are unnecessary and might interfere with mounting your xigmatech cooler. If you want bang for your buck, I'd go with this - great RAM with plenty of room for the oc'ing you'll be doing, much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Make sure your case is wide enough to accomodate the xigmatech as well.

Everything else looks great. Agree with waiting for the new GPU.
June 13, 2008 2:06:17 AM

modode said:
If you don't really need that much HD space, if you get 2 X WDAAKS 640 MB HD's you'll probably be very happy and save a lot of money. The 640 is single platter and almost a speedy as the velociraptor.

In benchmarks, RAID 0 makes a difference - in the real world, not much.

If you're going to blow that much money on a high-end enthusiast MB and great air-cooler, it'd be a shame not to overclock. OC'ing your setup to 3+ GHz would be a breeze and take you about 10 minutes (plus 24 hours of testing :)  ) BTW, if you're going to overclock, you should save yourself 70 bucks and just get the Q9300 - it'll overclock to 3+GHz quite easily with that board as well.

Keep in mind that the giant heatsinks on your RAM look cool and all, but probably are unnecessary and might interfere with mounting your xigmatech cooler. If you want bang for your buck, I'd go with this - great RAM with plenty of room for the oc'ing you'll be doing, much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Make sure your case is wide enough to accomodate the xigmatech as well.

Everything else looks great. Agree with waiting for the new GPU.


One question about the CPU...and one about the RAM:
I was originally going for the Q9300 but I saw that the 9450 has 12MB of L2 cache vs the Q9300's 6MB. Would that have any significance in my PC's performance?

Is there any significance to the fact that the RAM you quoted is PC2 8000 vs PC2 8500 ?

Thanks for the opinions!
June 13, 2008 2:18:01 AM

Q9450 has 12MB cache which helps in CPU intensive applications (read: not games) and is better suiting for overclocking due to its multiplier.

If you have the money, go for the Q9450. Otherwise get a Q6600 over a Q9300.
June 13, 2008 2:27:52 AM

shadowduck said:
Q9450 has 12MB cache which helps in CPU intensive applications (read: not games) and is better suiting for overclocking due to its multiplier.

If you have the money, go for the Q9450. Otherwise get a Q6600 over a Q9300.

Yep, Q6600 runs on 9x multiplier, while Q9300 runs on 7.5x. It's a major bottleneck for overclocking. Thus, it's a lot easier to oc q6600 to a higher speed than q9300. At stock, Q9300 only outperforms Q6600 by 7%, despite having a stock speed of 100mhz more. On applications that utilize higher cache, it's slower than q6600.

Q9450 is the one that delivers real performance gain over q6600. Skip q9300.
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