ATI: "Super RV770" to kick some more green asses?

lol?

Potential for 1 GHz Core Clock... O.O

yes, with some pretty hefty cooling in more way's than one.

That truly is insane. I remember not long ago how all the Executives and stuff were quitting LOL, i guess they jumped ship WAY too soon HAHAHA. My only thought about this new "Super RV770" is i doubt it will be available in Australia and no doubt with HD4870's already being LOWEST price of $320, this thing will cost and ARM & a LEG, easy $500+.

On a side note, does any1 thing Regular HD4870's could clock that high 1+GHz core and 4.8GHz mem with say the unlocked BIOS?

Just imagine what kind of power the 4870x2 could put out with these kinds of clocks and assuming you can keep it from melting down

remember, these are not going to be available to buy one their own, OEM only.

I just loved that it was called the SUPAH RV770.

Maybe were finally past the whole Extreme this and Mega that, but I doubt it, perhaps it's just a blast from the past.

I've wondered since launch, if they could've gotten the temps down would ATi have been able to do separate clock domains with the shaders faster would it have been better able to compete (on performance not price) with the gTX 280 or would it be the RBE that held it back? Based on the design I would think if they did implement asynchronous clocks that the SPUs and TUs would've clocked together as a 'shader clock' the seem a little too joined to allow for different domains between the two.

I suppose that depends on how many of these chips they have and what price they will ask for the extra cooling, true for alot of people i could see them paying the extra cash if it meant they had a pretty free hand in how they could play with them.

And remember, limited supply of chips and such, simply means higher prices, and you know there's at least 5% of the overall HD4K market that'll pay a hefty premium, especially if these get even close to the GTX280 now.

So is it just me seeing this in a totally different light? ATI has locked the stock 4870 bios to block overclocking so that they could release a super 4870 and sell them for higher prices just like Intel unlocks the multipliers and sells them as extreme-ly expensive CPUs? Someone slap me and tell me ATI just didn't do that.

I still don't understand why this "has" to have water cooling unless speeds of 950MHz aren't stable at 60-70C. Current air-coolers can keep temps this low. I mean, look at the 2900XT and 3870X2. They both consume more power (especially when OC'ed) and I don't see either of them catching on fire (though they were excellent space heaters).

About time they upped the clocks, though. Even my ATI 3200 IGP can clock to 900+ MHz

@ Ape, wish I could remember where I read it, but supposedly, next launch may see shader clock variances. The bios is floating around somewhere. Someone got it and torched their card (ouch) with it. And, they better offer lifetime warranties if they charge 500.

Seems fair enough to me, Given that the stock card will be relatively cheap and up to anything a non enthusiast wants to throw at it. I don't see why they cant make an enthusiasts card and charge for it accordingly. I know that reads like, "It s ok the enthusiasts can afford it". But that's not what I'm saying.
A lot of this is speculated as the cards are not out yet and there is no price for them yet. Unless anyone knows for sure ?
It seems to me that the yields are really good with these chips and ATI are maximising there revenue stream. Assuming they got such good yields that the bin and reuse policy was no longer viable they get left with two options as i see it.
1 Sell all the chips to a set standard and price and to hell with it
2 Create your own artificial binning point IE locking the cards in the bios. And then selling the higher rated chips as a limited edition.
Yes its not very customer friendly, but then again its a business like any other and the main goal is to make money for the share holders. I don't see it as underhanded. If that was the case they wouldn't have been so open about the whole thing.
The 4850 is about $200 on the EGG and a 4870 is $309 then i cant see the special edition costing more than $350-$400.
What price would this card be if it was an Nvidia card ? $600-$700 ?
Please any light anyone can shed on this would be helpfull as i said im just speculating really
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I'm sure they will have a water cooling version and an air-cooled model.

Unless it is like the hd3870x2 ultiamte or w/e Sapphire called it, where it had its own reservoir/pump and what not, I would hope they don't only do a w/c cooling version.

As to not everybody wants to W/C it anyways...

I'd rather they hook it up up to some nitrogen/phase cooling, but you know that's just me...



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That seems to be really low premium for hand piked special cooled versions... $150-$180 more would sound more like it, but ATI has had some real bargain prising during the last couple of years, so who knows...

4870 is $299 now? $299+150 would be $450, so the same price as 260 are... not so bad price at all for special version!
$350 would be a bargain! Why anyone would buy normal version with this kind of difference? (Well you need the water cooling ofcource, but still...)

Screwed? Not really, though I think they're finally in a position where they are no longer the clear leader for almost every application (a good thing IMO). I think we'll be seeing more price cuts from both sides before too long

btw that's tomorrow, the price drop that is

benches for what, the only benches that are missing are the r700 one's