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June 13, 2008 9:58:27 PM

iv got 300$ for a monitor and i want a 19" 20" 21" or 22" monitor any sugestions

i use to always go with viewsonic(with crts they were the best) but it seems like that has changes and in not sure what is good anymore any sugestions

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June 13, 2008 10:10:29 PM

i vote for 22" samsung. never had a problem with mine. as for model, try to find the one with the best deal wherever or however you shop. online? store?
June 13, 2008 10:15:08 PM

On the smaller end, 19inch for just under $200. With 3000:1 contrast ratio and 2ms response time, its specs are far higher than most much more expensive monitors. Perfect for gaming at low price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

On the larger end, 24inch for $340, 2ms and 4000:1 contrast ratio. It's a bit over budget, but most choices for larger monitors have lower contrast ratio and longer response time. Those are important for serious gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 13, 2008 10:22:05 PM

i might be able to get a dell screen through work for cheeper how are those (who accualy makes them?)?
June 13, 2008 10:23:16 PM

vigliottec said:
i might be able to get a dell screen through work for cheeper how are those (who accualy makes them?)?

Dell lcds in general are horrible. They get stuck pixiles. Don't buy or you'll regret it. :p 
June 13, 2008 10:34:29 PM

dell monitors are the best of the best, samsungs are great as well. samsungs tend to be more vibrant though. id rather have a nice dell that can swivel, tilt, all that jazz then just turn left to right without lifting it. idk if my 2053bw can tilt or swivel, idk what they really mean.
June 13, 2008 10:51:36 PM

pcgamer12 said:
dell monitors are the best of the best, samsungs are great as well. samsungs tend to be more vibrant though. id rather have a nice dell that can swivel, tilt, all that jazz then just turn left to right without lifting it. idk if my 2053bw can tilt or swivel, idk what they really mean.

Dell monitors are the worst of the worst. Go to any typical office using them, put on a white screen, and you'll see colored patches from that green and blue wallpaper. :na: 
June 14, 2008 1:21:38 AM

Dell's are Samsung panels and I have actually had good with their Ultrasharp line. However, dagger correctly points out their colour are not the best (TN panels).

However, I see you bought one- good choice!
June 14, 2008 1:30:10 AM

TheKingBoar said:
I just picked up this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and love it. Better to go for a high quality monitor that's a little smaller than a bigger one. This has 2ms response time, and a 20000:1 contrast ratio. It looks amazing.

Keep in mind the actual contrast is far lower than 20000:1 ("DC"). It's actually 1000:1, which is still very good.
June 14, 2008 1:32:17 AM

I'm aware of that, but anyone who can launch Firefox can use the software it comes with to make it better. I spent fifteen minutes tweaking, and everything looks more vibrant. I've never commented on how good a program's icon looked, but this monitor made me say that. I also like the power button like the PS3, although the stand is a wee bit rocky.
June 14, 2008 1:34:25 AM

Dell LCD's aren't even CLOSE to the worst of the worst.

For a home user who will be letting Windows shut the monitor down after idling for a while, or some who just turns it off if they need to be away from the monitor for a while, I don't think burn-in is much of a factor.

And don't be fooled by the claimed specs a particluar manufacturer might boast about for their monitor. The realworld specs are far less than claimed.

Looking for factual answers elsewhere, from reputable reviews. Then weigh those facts (lightly) against the opinions of anyone who makes outrageous blanket statements with no proof.
June 14, 2008 1:54:47 AM

keep in mind im getting a blu ray player for my computer and i want to do hd quality on it

does that change any thing?
June 14, 2008 2:01:35 AM

Yes the does! The monitor needs to be able to do something, but I don't remember what. Posters help!
June 14, 2008 2:08:47 AM

shadowduck said:
Yes the does! The monitor needs to be able to do something, but I don't remember what. Posters help!

For playing movies, no it doesn't. For that matter, you can play movies on a 15 inch crt. CPU, with correct codecs, decode the x264 compression, then display it. A newer gpu can take some load off cpu, but if not, it'll work too. That's it. You can drag the corners of the software player display window to adjust size to anything you want.
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June 14, 2008 2:14:44 AM

vigliottec;
Yes it does change things a bit. Ideally you'd want a 24" monitor (1920x1200 res) to take advantage of the 1080P HiDef playback @ 1920×1080.
You can play HD content on smaller monitors (22/20 1680/1050 res) but you get a slightly degraded version of the original image. It still looks VERY good though. If your budget is pretty firm you probably still need to look at the 20/22 widescreens.

I agree with shadowduck and YGOE that Dell is quite a bit better than average in the LCD monitor business.
I work in a typical office using 18 Dell monitors. Not one has any dead or stuck pixels.
C/Net Dell 2208WFP Editors Choice
Just in case you do have a problem Dells stuck/dead pixel policy is better than NewEggs and doing returns to either is very easy.

For stuck pixels you might even fix the problem yourself:
(1) Stuck Pixel Fix
* Turn off your monitor
* Get a damp cloth and apply light pressure to the area where the stuck pixel is
* While applying pressure, turn on the monitor
* Remove pressure and the stuck pixel could be repaired
* Repeat if unsuccessful

(2) Stuck Pixel Fix
Try using UnDead Pixel which will cycle the main RGB colors on every pixel at a very rapid rate in the hope of fixing the stuck pixel.
June 14, 2008 2:21:03 AM

You'll also need a monitor with a HDMI port, or a component to DVI converter (I'm not even sure they exist, but I'm sure they do). If you use the standard cables there's no point in hooking it up because the quality will suffer too much.
June 14, 2008 2:22:06 AM

i can get a dell monitor through work for like 15% off
June 14, 2008 2:28:36 AM

TheKingBoar wrote :

You'll
also need a monitor with a HDMI port, or a component to DVI converter
(I'm not even sure they exist, but I'm sure they do). If you use the
standard cables there's no point in hooking it up because the quality
will suffer too much.


Just DVI will do fine. Nothing noticable.

vigliottec said:
i can get a dell monitor through work for like 15% off

Feel free to try. Make sure they have a cash back policy for the "screenburn." :na: 



Seriously, there are far better bargain monitors that also boast far
higher specs and more reliable. Ditch the Dell, it's not worth the
headache.
June 14, 2008 2:32:33 AM

dagger said:
TheKingBoar wrote :

You'll
also need a monitor with a HDMI port, or a component to DVI converter
(I'm not even sure they exist, but I'm sure they do). If you use the
standard cables there's no point in hooking it up because the quality
will suffer too much.


Just DVI will do fine. Nothing noticable.


Feel free to try. Make sure they have a cash back policy for the "screenburn." :na: 



Seriously, there are far better bargain monitors that also boast far
higher specs and more reliable. Ditch the Dell, it's not worth the
headache.


But are there component to DVI converters? I've never seen one, which is why I said go with HDMI, although that will jack up the price of the monitor. You might be better off buying a standard tv that's good and getting a video card with HDMI on it.
June 14, 2008 2:37:35 AM

TheKingBoar said:
But are there component to DVI converters? I've never seen one, which is why I said go with HDMI, although that will jack up the price of the monitor. You might be better off buying a standard tv that's good and getting a video card with HDMI on it.

Seriously, a half decent computer monitor will have better image quality than any hdtv save for plasma models. DVI is fine. He's decoding and playing the video right out of the PC disk drive, not connecting it out to TV.
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June 14, 2008 2:37:44 AM

vigliottec said:
i can get a dell monitor through work for like 15% off
That would put the C/Net Dell 2208WFP Editors Choice right in your budget ballpark. And it does have HDMI jack and it also has a 4 USB ports.

What video card will you be using?

June 14, 2008 2:47:07 AM

asus 8800gts 512

and yes im buying a blu ray player for the computer so i dont think id need a hdmi connection
June 14, 2008 2:53:28 AM

vigliottec said:
asus 8800gts 512

and yes im buying a blu ray player for the computer so i dont think id need a hdmi connection


Ha! I'm an idiot and read a PS3 not a Blu Ray player. Sorry for the confusion. DVI will do you fine. I thought you were going to hook a PS3 up to it, and there's really no way to do that unless it has HDMI.
June 14, 2008 3:41:58 AM

dagger said:
Dell lcds in general are horrible. They get stuck pixiles. Don't buy or you'll regret it. :p 


Really? Is this just in your experience with Dell monitors? Have you seen this problem on multiple Dell LCDs? Did you personally have problems with one of these monitors? I don't mean to sound like I'm quizzing you; I'm just interested in hearing more about these problems you mention and to just see the basis of your opinion (for example, I have a personal grudge against Intel because my P4 toasted).

In my (albeit somewhat limited) experience, the standard Dell monitors are perfectly adequate (average) monitors, whereas the UltraSharp models are on par with all but the most expensive, professional level LCDs.

We've had a 19" UltraSharp with our family computer for about 1 1/2 years now. The image quality is great, and during that time it's had no dead pixels or other problems.

I'm also happy to report that my 19" ViewSonic monitor continues to serve me well after almost 3 years, which is good, because it cost $300 in Oct. 2005. I don't know where ViewSonic stands today, but mine works as advertised...
a b C Monitor
June 14, 2008 4:22:26 AM

vigliottec said:
i can get a dell monitor through work for like 15% off



How about a Dell 2008WFP 20" monitor for 25% off? http://dealigg.com/story-Dell-Coupons-Dell-Coupon-Code

edit;
Never mind - the coupon code is still good. But the 25% off applies to the list price of $299 and not the Dell store price of $249.
Your deal may be better through the company 15% off deal.
[:wr2:2] Still its only $224 after using the coupon. No rebate wait needed.
June 14, 2008 1:55:27 PM

angry_ducky said:
Really? Is this just in your experience with Dell monitors? Have you seen this problem on multiple Dell LCDs? Did you personally have problems with one of these monitors? I don't mean to sound like I'm quizzing you; I'm just interested in hearing more about these problems you mention and to just see the basis of your opinion (for example, I have a personal grudge against Intel because my P4 toasted).

In my (albeit somewhat limited) experience, the standard Dell monitors are perfectly adequate (average) monitors, whereas the UltraSharp models are on par with all but the most expensive, professional level LCDs.

We've had a 19" UltraSharp with our family computer for about 1 1/2 years now. The image quality is great, and during that time it's had no dead pixels or other problems.

I'm also happy to report that my 19" ViewSonic monitor continues to serve me well after almost 3 years, which is good, because it cost $300 in Oct. 2005. I don't know where ViewSonic stands today, but mine works as advertised...

Yep, personal experience. All the lcds in office are 22" widescreen dells. More than half have streaking problems. It's not exactly stuck pixle, more like a vague blot, or "screenburn." Becomes worse when you turn brightness all the way up, hardly noticable when you keep the monitor dark. :p 
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