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July 2, 2008 10:06:29 AM

I'm looking to buy an MSI 8800gts OC 320mb card from newegg, but the problem is that it's an open box item? What are the possible risks involved? Having any less accessory wont hurt me as i can manage without those, but the crucial question is the card's reliability? Is it reliable enough etc? :pfff: 

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July 2, 2008 11:34:09 AM

Why bother spending 100 bucks for an open box 8800GTS 320mb? Spend the same amount of money for a Radeon 3850 .... or for ~$10 more you get 9600GT... both of which blow away the 8800 GTS 320.
a c 171 U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 12:17:25 PM

Agreed. Instead of getting this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI open box 8800GTS 320MB $110 counting shipping.

You should look at something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus "TOP" 9600GSO 384MB $94 counting shipping and rebate.

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte 3870 512MB $100 counting shipping and rebate.

I personally would probably go for the 3870. A bit more ram and a much nicer bundle. I'm not sure how the 9600GSO stacks up to the 3870, I would guess that they are mostly equals, though I suspect the 3870 might be better. (it does a bit better then the 8800GT, and I think the 9600GSO is a little worse then the 8800GT.) Either of the two cards that I linked to should be faster then the 8800GTS 320MB, and they are cheaper/the same price.
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a c 169 U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 12:23:20 PM

+1 vote for HD 3870 or HD 4850(if u can afford it)
a c 169 U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 4:21:39 PM

It isn't a crappy card :D  remember those days that 8800GTS 320 was the best price/performance card :)  its still a good card for lower resolutions IMO
July 2, 2008 5:56:33 PM

Its not a CRAPPY card. It performs the same as the 3850, 9600GSO, but it does get defeated by the 3870, so +1 3870. But the 8800GTS320 OC's nice. Got my old card to 620 core 1000mem 1500shader. By then it was on par with most cards.
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 6:12:49 PM

About a year ago we were all busy recommending the 8800GTS 320, weren't we. It was an excellent card for that time, somewhere in the top 5 for speed and best bang for the buck. Of course, things have changed.

+1 for the HD 3870
a c 171 U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 9:45:38 PM

I'm not sure I'd go on ebay to get computer stuff. Not when I can put that same $100 into a 3870. Its been awhile since I've bought something like this from ebay, but I doubt you can get anything faster for less. (I wouldn't get the 9600GT either, should be slower then the 3870.)
a c 169 U Graphics card
July 3, 2008 6:49:04 AM

aevm said:
About a year ago we were all busy recommending the 8800GTS 320, weren't we. It was an excellent card for that time, somewhere in the top 5 for speed and best bang for the buck. Of course, things have changed.

+1 for the HD 3870


yeah i remember it aevm,we recommended the 8800GTS 320 to many who where asking,it was an excellent card for that time(and its excellent still,but because alot of new cards with better price have come out,its hard to recommend it anymore)
a c 169 U Graphics card
July 3, 2008 4:59:25 PM

wow $150 for a 8800GTS 512, great deal and nice find :) 
July 3, 2008 5:14:33 PM

yup its an awesome deal... Dagger had posted the same link a few days ago... and the price then was just $120 :) 
a c 171 U Graphics card
July 3, 2008 9:17:21 PM

Why such hate for AMD cards? You posted a card/budget of $100, and I posted an AMD card that costs the same, but would be faster. Why dismiss it? You should judge cards off of the price they cost versus the performance they provide. You shouldn't care who makes it. For $100, the 3870 was the fastest card.

If you are going to increase the price, you can look at other cards. If you are going to look at $150 cards, I suggest you look at ~$175 cards as well. Newegg has several ~$175 4850s, which will stomp the 8800GTS. Most require you to buy another piece of hardware, but not all. For example, here is a 4850 for $177 and comes with a free ATI remote control for your PC.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't mind buying MSI, here is one for $175, and comes with a free version of Witcher.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If $100 is your limit, you are better off getting the 3870. Its faster then the 8800GTS 320MB, or the 9600 cards. If your limit is $150, then the 8800GTS 512MB is your card. If you can swing $175, I'd look at getting one of those 4850s. Realize that you'll need $200, as you only get the $175 price after rebate. (which not everyone can do...)
July 4, 2008 4:06:41 AM

well i guess you can call it some sort of apprehension buying ati. Though toms ppl here judged that 3870 and the 9600gt tie their score (there was some tiltin in performance when the AA is enabled or disabled), the 3870 is indeed cheaper by 20 dollars. But i dont know i guess juz the common view that you listen to is that the 9600gt fares a lil better than 3870. and also there was somethign about the 3870's getting obsolete more quickly :S
July 4, 2008 4:09:38 AM

and a tad concerned about the fact that 3870 runs much hotter if i go for it and certainly dont want the hassle 2 find for a cooler 4 it
a c 169 U Graphics card
July 4, 2008 8:27:59 AM

4745454b said:
Why such hate for AMD cards? You posted a card/budget of $100, and I posted an AMD card that costs the same, but would be faster. Why dismiss it? You should judge cards off of the price they cost versus the performance they provide. You shouldn't care who makes it. For $100, the 3870 was the fastest card.

If you are going to increase the price, you can look at other cards. If you are going to look at $150 cards, I suggest you look at ~$175 cards as well. Newegg has several ~$175 4850s, which will stomp the 8800GTS. Most require you to buy another piece of hardware, but not all. For example, here is a 4850 for $177 and comes with a free ATI remote control for your PC.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't mind buying MSI, here is one for $175, and comes with a free version of Witcher.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If $100 is your limit, you are better off getting the 3870. Its faster then the 8800GTS 320MB, or the 9600 cards. If your limit is $150, then the 8800GTS 512MB is your card. If you can swing $175, I'd look at getting one of those 4850s. Realize that you'll need $200, as you only get the $175 price after rebate. (which not everyone can do...)


lol who hates ATI cards? i just said that deal on the 8800GTS 512 that he found is very good
a c 171 U Graphics card
July 4, 2008 12:24:55 PM

Obsolete more quickly? Why would the DX10.1 3870 get obsolete before the DX10 9600GT? I don't know who you hang out and listen to, but you should find same better educated friends.

Its your money, spend it as you see fit. I'm not saying you'd be unhappy with the 9600 series card. I'm simply urging you to look at ALL your options before you buy. Look at benchmarks for the 3870/9600GT. Pay attention to the games that YOU play. Look at websites that YOU trust. That way you'll be happy with your choice.
July 4, 2008 8:08:16 PM

Well, in case you didnt notice 4745454b, i wrote i read that view here on tom's hardware, right here :

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-cards,1942...

I think i would have gone for the 3870 a lil while ago too, but the card that you posted, the Asus 3870, that's a lil handicapped bro of it's gddr4 brothers. The bro's btw are juz like $10-20 more than the 9600gt. And as you might read in that link, which i believe you already know, both the 9600gt and the 3870 have some performance difference with regards 2 when AA is enabled, but that difference might b small for one 2 observe. Finally if that ASUS card that you posted wont loose much performance than it's powerful bro's can give, then sure thanks for telling me that, cuz then i'd sure want to get taht 3870...... :p 
July 4, 2008 8:21:28 PM

^.... dude what exactly is your budget... is it a maximum of $100 or you can stretch it to $120 or $140?
July 4, 2008 8:26:06 PM

And yes actually i did review plenty of benchmarks on multiple websites, e.g. here

http://www.techspot.com/article/88-geforce-9600gt-versu...

I mean honestly if the 9600gt is on average juz 1 percent low on performance that the 3870, then why not buy the 9600 gt if ur getting that for 120 and the 3870 for 135. That was until you posted that ASUS link, the question there one might ask is how much going down from gddr4 to gddr 3 would hurt that card's performance given that it's already sensitive to using the AA.
July 4, 2008 8:28:03 PM

mihirkula said:
^.... dude what exactly is your budget... is it a maximum of $100 or you can stretch it to $120 or $140?


I can stretch it till 120 or 140 for sure, which is why i posted asking for a call between the two 9600 gt's. (one was at 119 and the other at 125)
July 4, 2008 8:31:10 PM

wooops, meant gigabyte 3870 and not ASUS as i've been posting....... :p 
July 4, 2008 8:34:33 PM

ok if you can stretch it to $140...why in the world are you even considering HD 3870 and 9600GT? You could get a faster 8800GTS G92 for $140 ainnit!!!??? I've posted the link above...check.

Hell if you wait a couple of weeks or so you could probably get even the Radeon 4850 for $140 or so....and that outperforms even the 9800GTX.

Edit: BTW two 8800GTS 512mb outperforms even the GTX280.
July 4, 2008 8:44:12 PM

Well the problem is that i have to order it today. About that zotac 8800gts, yes it's an awesome deal, as similar MSI cards are going at 180, but the problem is that i'm ordering from outside US, and one of my friend's gonna bring the card with him. So not sure about getting a zotac. Yeah the 9800gtx is juz an OC brother of 8800gts g92 :p 
July 4, 2008 8:48:09 PM

hmmmnnn.... where are you ordering from then? as in which site?
July 4, 2008 8:52:27 PM

Newegg .....
July 4, 2008 8:56:16 PM

and guess what, that 8800gts zotac is now for 120 again as it was a couple of days ago at that fxvideocards store.... this juz keeps getting confusing
July 4, 2008 8:56:59 PM

does newegg ship outside US??
July 4, 2008 8:59:01 PM

hell no, why would u even think that :p  I'm shippin it to my friend in US and he's gonna bring it along
July 4, 2008 9:01:54 PM

so whats the problem in buying it from fxvideocards? you can have it shipped to your friend ...

or you could wire over the cash to your friend and HE can buy it ...

simple solutions dude...pff
July 4, 2008 9:03:29 PM

Nooo the problem's not getting it from fxvideocards, as i said before the problem is getting a zotac :p  not sure about it
July 4, 2008 9:06:15 PM

So basically you're nuts ...lol..

There's nothing wrong with zotacs ... anyhow its your card, not mine. Happy shopping. Cheers.
July 4, 2008 9:11:31 PM

yeah, had never heard of zotacs before juz like never heard of a galaxy :p  .....
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