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EVGA GTX 260 FTW -vs- BFG GTX 260 OCX

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July 2, 2008 11:36:50 PM

I want to buy one of these grapfic cards and I would like to know which one do you think should be the most powerfull

EVGA GTX 260 FTW
GPU: 666 MHz
Memory: 2214 MHz
Memory Bandwith: 123,9 GB/s

or

BFG GTX 260 OCX
GPU: 655 MHz
Memory: 2250 MHz
Memory Bandwith: 126 GB/s

Thanks to all.

More about : evga gtx 260 ftw bfg gtx 260 ocx

a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 11:42:35 PM

Pretty much the same thing. I'd prefer evga but would buy whichever is cheaper and/or offers the better bundle (free game, etc.)

Unless you have an SLI mobo and want the option to add a second card, you may want to look into the HD4870 instead. So far it looks to be >= the GTX260 and costs $100 less.
July 2, 2008 11:42:42 PM

I would choice a 4870... anyway go with the one that is cheapest, because the difference will be very minor.
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2008 11:45:25 PM

^ lol, we think alike.
July 4, 2008 2:19:11 AM

thanks to both of you
July 4, 2008 2:26:24 AM

Alright....so a 4870...cheaper card...higher performance than a more expensive GTX 260....4870, should be a no brainer :) 
July 4, 2008 2:50:48 AM

The 4870 is better than a GTX 260, but maybe not better than a GTX 260 OC. Also, I'm curious to see if the PhysX will make a difference when the driver will be available in a near future.
July 4, 2008 2:57:21 AM

I wouldn't count too much on physx really, but you never know.

As of today, I actually own 2 gtx260s - performance is definitely good and they overclock very well

But if you don't have an SLI motherboard already, then the 4870 is really the better buy - any of the heat issues and whatnot that have been mentioned will be rectified by software updates from AMD pretty soon.

Now lastly, maybe I just got lucky with my 2 cards - but both of them are stock clocked cards and I had zero problems getting them to gtx280 FTW clocks. Very stable for 3-4 hours of gameplay so far, benchmarking etc; and very acceptable thermals between 65-70 max under load.

Really though, the only problem with the 4870 is the fan speed, and that will be fixed soon. The 4870 is a very good card and its 100$ cheaper than the gtx260 for comparable performance, so it is the better buy if you have a standard or crossfire compatible motherboard already~
July 4, 2008 3:03:07 AM

ovaltineplease,

If you have two of these cards, are they very noisy as tom's hardware said in their review?

By the way, the 100$ difference was before today's price drop for the 260 GTX
July 4, 2008 5:30:21 AM

You can't compare a non oc'd 4870 to an o'cd GTX260 because you could just as easily overclock the 4870 and it'll beat it....for $100 cheaper. If you already have a SLI board get the Nvidia, but if you're looking for a new board get an intel chipset and Crossfire the 4870's and save money. Even with that being said, if you still bought 2 4870's you'd save $200 which would buy you a pretty nice board to give them a home.
July 4, 2008 5:40:27 AM

one-shot said:
You can't compare a non oc'd 4870 to an o'cd GTX260 because you could just as easily overclock the 4870 and it'll beat it....for $100 cheaper. If you already have a SLI board get the Nvidia, but if you're looking for a new board get an intel chipset and Crossfire the 4870's and save money. Even with that being said, if you still bought 2 4870's you'd save $200 which would buy you a pretty nice board to give them a home.



I don't think anyone was comparing non oc-ed cards to oc-ed cards; I specifically said that the 4870s are poor overclockers at this point because of software issues. So seeing as the only way to overclock the 4870 is with either a fan mod or a new cooler entirely; that collectively quantifies basically ANYTHING other than a 4800 series as being a better overclocker than a 4800 series.

Benchmarks have already shown that the 4870 and gtx260 are nearly parallel performance in most applications, the main selling featuer of the 4870 is PRICE, and that is a damn good selling feature given that they are so close in performance. But really, graphics cards "beating" each other? Sure, if you want to make this into a fanboy thing go right ahead but I already said specifically that the 4870 is slightly more performance for less cost so it is therein the better buy unless you already have an Nforce board.



Pegasus15: They are really no more audible than the 8800 GTs which I was using before; take that as you will. I run them at 55% fan speed and I can't hear them over my antec 900s fans.

Would I recommend them for an HTPC? No, they are definitely not that quiet as the antec 900 while not extremely noisy, does have audible fans.

Pegasus15, if you are planning on operating a single video card or if you are using an Intel chipset motherboard which is crossfire compliant I would advise the 4870 over the gtx260 simply because the 4870 is cheaper for the same performance - and that is a damnably good reason to get them if you have the option.
July 4, 2008 11:56:20 PM

1837580,12,325647 said:
Sure, if you want to make this into a fanboy thing go right ahead but I already said specifically that the 4870 is slightly more performance for less cost so it is therein the better buy unless you already have an Nforce board.




I'm not an ATI fanboy, I have an Nvidia Video card. My last CPU was AMD, now it's Intel. That isn't a fanboy. Purchasing a lower priced card for similar performance isn't fanboyism. The opposite would be fanboy if you plan to run one card. You seem very ready to say "fanboy" because there are so many, but I am not one of them. :) 
July 5, 2008 4:55:16 AM

ovaltineplease said:

Benchmarks have already shown that the 4870 and gtx260 are nearly parallel performance in most applications, the main selling featuer of the 4870 is PRICE, and that is a damn good selling feature given that they are so close in performance. But really, graphics cards "beating" each other? Sure, if you want to make this into a fanboy thing go right ahead but I already said specifically that the 4870 is slightly more performance for less cost so it is therein the better buy unless you already have an Nforce board
Pegasus15, if you are planning on operating a single video card or if you are using an Intel chipset motherboard which is crossfire compliant I would advise the 4870 over the gtx260 simply because the 4870 is cheaper for the same performance - and that is a damnably good reason to get them if you have the option.



Actually all benchmark's ive seen say that the 4870 pretty much smokes the gtx260 like a fat philly blunt and for cheaper !
July 5, 2008 5:37:35 AM

xx12amanxx said:
Actually all benchmark's ive seen say that the 4870 pretty much smokes the gtx260 like a fat philly blunt and for cheaper !



yea, totally except in GRAW2, UT3, Crysis.

Its even down the middle - they trade blows.
July 5, 2008 7:19:52 AM

ovaltineplease said:
yea, totally except in GRAW2, UT3, Crysis.

Its even down the middle - they trade blows.


Not to argue but 3 games out of like 20 that ive seen benchmarked does not mean its even!
July 5, 2008 1:30:49 PM

xx12amanxx said:
Not to argue but 3 games out of like 20 that ive seen benchmarked does not mean its even!



People actually care about FPS numbers in 3 year old games still?
July 5, 2008 1:38:41 PM

4870 easily overclocks to 790/1100, which is the max the CCC will allow right now. There's work arounds to get even higher than that.

I've had mine running at 790/1000(4000) for 3 days now with fan at 45%, no trouble at all.
July 5, 2008 1:58:14 PM

ovaltineplease is the true fanboy.at newegg the prices for 4870 and gxt260 are really colse give or take 20-30 $.FTW the 4870
July 5, 2008 2:16:51 PM

how is he a fanboy? he agreed that the 4870 smokes the 260 GTX in every game except Crysis, etc.

I agree that the 4870 is dominant, but at the same time, I agree that I want to see more current gen games, I really don't care about games like fear, or ghost recon 2, which was really never that good.

Games like Mass Effect, Cysis, Call of duty 4, GRid, etc:) 

I don't think any1 in their right mind is saying the 260 GTX is better than the 4870, but you can't say its bad...its just not puting up as much of a fight as the 4870 which is cheaper
July 5, 2008 2:33:34 PM

Both gtx260 mentioned are oc cards .You need to go back and read his post ,and the 4870 is very easy to oc.You should go back and read his post .
July 5, 2008 2:44:19 PM

Who are you talkin to? and your repeating yourself.

I'm just defending ovaltinepl ease 's posts.
July 5, 2008 2:52:39 PM

L1qu1d said:
Who are you talkin to? and your repeating yourself.

I'm just defending ovaltinepl ease 's posts.

Yeah I notice :heink: 
July 5, 2008 2:56:41 PM

ok, so whats your argument then? lol
a b U Graphics card
July 5, 2008 3:01:19 PM

Newer games like WiC and the Witcher show the 4870 doing better, so to me, its more of a game to game thing, not a newer game thing. Each game has its own demands, some play to the strength of 1 card and not the other, but overall, including newer games the 4870 wins out
July 5, 2008 5:24:51 PM

ovaltineplease said:
People actually care about FPS numbers in 3 year old games still?



No man it's not about that! I agree with most of your post but i just dissagree that the 4870 and gtx-260 are parallel in performance.

The op want's the best performance for his money and the 4870 is the better buy right now. But if the op want's the gtx-260 then i think ethier one of the cards he chose will work just fine.

When people ask for an opinion on what card is best we should not let our biased turn them to a more expensive card that perform's less.The 4870 just does perform better! Much like when i bought my 8800GT the GTX still performed better even though ton'a of 8800GT people wanted to tote and say the 8800GT performed the same for way less cash.

Peace
July 5, 2008 5:33:39 PM

ro3dog said:
ovaltineplease is the true fanboy.at newegg the prices for 4870 and gxt260 are really colse give or take 20-30 $.FTW the 4870


Yeah i wouldnt call him a fanboi ethier! He is just passonate about these card's...I think...lol

Im an rx-7 owner and have been for years soo trust me i know what it is like to be extremely fanatic about something!
July 5, 2008 5:36:31 PM

CRX owner and same here, wouldn't give it up for anything. Well, except maybe one of those new Audi R8's...
July 5, 2008 7:37:51 PM

best choice is 4850 if you want to spend more go for 4870
July 5, 2008 11:26:36 PM

xx12amanxx said:
No man it's not about that! I agree with most of your post but i just dissagree that the 4870 and gtx-260 are parallel in performance.

The op want's the best performance for his money and the 4870 is the better buy right now. But if the op want's the gtx-260 then i think ethier one of the cards he chose will work just fine.

When people ask for an opinion on what card is best we should not let our biased turn them to a more expensive card that perform's less.The 4870 just does perform better! Much like when i bought my 8800GT the GTX still performed better even though ton'a of 8800GT people wanted to tote and say the 8800GT performed the same for way less cash.

Peace



You might as well have quoted my post because you just reworded and repeated everything I said already. Just because I don't fall over drooling over a graphics card like a lot of people on this forum doesn't mean I don't see the merit in it. I already bloody said that the 4870 is a better buy, but the fact is if you already own a good SLI board then buying a 4870 makes zero sense, the best performance value would be waiting for a 4870x2.

I think half the problem is with this 4870 discussion is that when people talk about it they blow it out of proportion or use selective benchmarks to try and inflate how good the card is. Sure the 4870 is a nice card, but its performance is hardly ground breaking in this day and age even if the price makes it an attractive piece of hardware - the 4870x2 if technologically sound should be a much better card than the 4870; if anything i'd say that i'm disappointed with the 4870 because AMD hasn't made an advanced crossfire interconnect for dual gpus that they say they are adding to the 4870x2. Maybe this isn't possible, but I really think its more of a marketing ploy for the 4870x2 than an actual hardware limitation.

I think the best buy in the AMD gpus right now is the 4850 or the 4850 crossfire; but the 4870 is very underwhelming in comparison to the 4850. And when the 4870x2 comes out it'll make crossfire 4870s look like crap too.
January 11, 2010 8:44:06 PM

Hey ive got a BFG GTX 260 OC and i was looking into buying another one but the new ones are core55, wondering if anybody can tell me whether or not they would be compatible to SLI with eachother?

Thanks
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