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Im trying to stay under $800(and this is a totaly from scratch build)
but have a rig that will play warhamer online when it comes out at 1600x1200 (22" moniter) at maxxed settings

See Below for newest BUILD

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Message edited by licid24 on 06-16-2008 at 01:34:30 AM

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First the PSU you are getting in that deal isn’t a bargain if cost more in operation cost and part replacement. Stick with top tier PSU <saves money in the long run>

The 8800gts hands down if that’s the 512 model and not the 256
but wait for the new card releases this week .

The 680i I am not sure you will be able to OC that CPU that far on it.
Stick with P35-P45 for a low cost ocing solution

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119106 $44.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103024 $7.99
COOLER MASTER R4-S2S-12AK-GP 120mm Case Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341010 $84.99 (54.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V CB, CE, CSA, UL, FCC - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115052 $131.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003 $36.99
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233019 $6.99
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130181 $99.99
MSI P45 Neo-F LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227267 $104.99 ($79.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325 $209.99
MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148262 $23.99
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0&Tpk=mx-2 $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

TOTAL
$759.89
$704.89 w/mail in rebates

STAY AWAY FROM SLI ! Not worth the xtra cost, gains are minimal at best, not to mention Nvidea boards are full of bugs and are pure crap for the most part.

1) Aluminum Cooler Master case with 3x120mm fans, side airduct, and lots of room for big cards, heatsinks, etc.....

2) P45 motherboard...they are the latest on the market, great for overcocking, and that board you chose is junk. Infact stay away from any Nvdea chipset board. The 650 is as bad as they get.

3) XIGMATEK cpu heatsink are usually rated either #1 or #2 on most reviews. They are the best out there right now, and seeing how you plan on cranking that cpu up to 3.6 your going to need it. Also the push pin system that comes with those heatsinks suck sans the retention bracket kit w/screws on that build.

4) The HD in that build has twice the cache as the one you chose (16MB vs 8MB), it's faster, and it's larger 250GB.

5) The optical drive you chose (Samsung), is a EIDE drive...like about the worst thing you can get for airflow. EIDE drives went out with the horse and buggy. The EIDE cables are HUGE, and they block airflow, not to mention they suck for a build for the fact they are a pain to make fit most of the time. Yay for SATA....

6) Thermal paste/grease... Arctic Cooling MX-2 is better than artic silver 5 for more than a few reasons. First it works better at keeping your temps down, it's non conductive, there is no set-up/ cureing time, and it last years longer. Read the reviews on it on newegg...it tells it all.

7) That vid card is factory overclocked and it's a bargain at that price.

8) Memory.... the memory on that build is not only faster than what you have chosen, but it has better timing, lower latency and it won't hold back your overclock. That memory gives you alot more room to work with for overclocking.

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <---CPU heatsink reviews... the XIGMATEK is rated #2 on that list.

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how about an OS?
you mentioned a 22" screen, so I assume you have that.
don't forget an OS2 keyboard, for messing with bios, and a mouse.

youre wasting your money with SLI

for $200 you will be able to get a 4850 in a little bit.

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Two changes:

1) Drop the ECS video card. ECS is terrible. Purchase an eVGA instead- especially due to the step up program and life time warranty.
This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130318

Change the PSU to this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ing%2b610W
Much better PSU.

Change the RAM to, to this stuff:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231148 Unless you are overclocking to a really high level this RAM will be a better, and it has tighter timings.

Message edited by shadowduck on 06-15-2008 at 07:02:13 PM

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I can get a PNY 8800GT for $149.99 at best buy but the g92 has 128 stream processor and dual width so better heat in the case.

Im gunna switch to this card, I've seen that it runs the coolest of all the g92's and $200.00 after rebate with CoD4. I'll sell it and get UT3 tho
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=3670

total cost with this GPU after rebates and shipping costs - $777.50

What about this beast tho? with MIR its nuts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814162009

The PSU i had was thermalright which seems like a good brand. With the rebate and the case combo price its only like 60 bucks for both.
Will this PSU be able to power the 9800 gtx, e7200 OCed, 2x2g ram, 1 HD, 1 dvd/cd combo and 3 fans?

I wanted to OC e e7200 to about 3.4-3.6 will that ram be good enough?

Message edited by licid24 on 06-16-2008 at 02:21:15 AM

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That PSU is acceptable.. not good not bad.. You can get to excellent for just a little extra money. DO NOT skimp on the PSU!

I can get a 650w BFG PSU for $45

should I get the asus p45 pro MB
or
get really good 1066 ram and over clock them soince the p45 is rated to use ddr2 1200 ram.

and this is my new case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133058

Message edited by licid24 on 06-16-2008 at 07:01:48 AM

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