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June 16, 2008 1:19:16 PM

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1 RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #:ATX-612WBP
Item #:N82E16811156062
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
In Stock
Mail-in Rebate

$99.99 -$5.00 Instant $94.99
1 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail
Model #:F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Item #:N82E16820231145
Return Policy:Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy
In Stock

$129.99 -$45.00 Instant $84.99
1 GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-EP35-DS3L
Item #:N82E16813128337
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
In Stock

$89.99 $89.99
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #:ST3500320AS
Item #:N82E16822148288
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
In Stock

$89.99 $89.99
1 ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T

ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T - Retail
Model #:D RW-2014L1T
Item #:N82E16827135156
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$37.99 -$4.00 Instant $33.99

Video Card: ZOTAC GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB ZT-88SE640-FSP GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI ZOTAC Video Cardhttp://fxvideocards.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-8800-GTS-640MB-ZT...

CPU:
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Quad Core Q9300 http://shop4.frys.com/product/5598310.


$710 Before shipping/rebates/tax!

Any suggestion is appreciated I will buy these over the weekend (hoping for some more outrageous sales!)

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June 16, 2008 2:02:20 PM

I would not really call this a high end gaming system, maybe low to mid. No offense. (I am building a E8400, 4GB, 8800GT card myself, and this is what I consider low to mid)

I would also get a better PSU than what comes with a 99$ case. I fretted over this for a week myself, and ended up getting a Corsair. PC Power and cooling
is also another recommended brand around here.

My rough numbers come out a little over 828$ for that setup. (I think you forgot to add the Video card price or the CPU to your total)...pulling a price of 259$ for the CPU from Frys (and I don't think it includes a heatsink)
and 214.99 for the video card form newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

June 16, 2008 2:19:16 PM

^ Nope I added them just that I am getting the CPU for 210 and Video card for 120 - why do you think the power isn't enough?
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June 16, 2008 2:30:14 PM

I agree with y2kgtp. Better to spend some extra on the power supply, than see your investment vanish in black smoke. 500W is sufficient.
Get a Coolermaster Centurion and a Corsair HX-520 or choose a power supply from below.

Top Tier PSU:
http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiered+PSU+Listings?t=anon

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460

Silent PSUs
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article699-page1.html

AMD Certified PSUs (Single+Crossfire):
http://ati.amd.com/online/certifiedpsu/index.html

Certified SLI-Ready Power Supplies
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
June 16, 2008 2:36:49 PM

ragingazn628 said:
^ Nope I added them just that I am getting the CPU for 210 and Video card for 120 - why do you think the power isn't enough?


A Good 500W power supply should be enough for that. Read threw the reviews of the case searching for 'power' or 'power supply' and seems to be alot of complaints or comments over replacing it.. I could not find any specifications on the PSU other than 1 comment of '500 watts with 22A on the 12v rail' which might not be enough for a 8800GTS card.

I also read another comment that it includes 1 SATA power cable, with both connectors on the same cable....so your hard drive and Optical drive better be right on top of each other, or you might have issues hooking up the cable.





June 16, 2008 2:37:04 PM

i had some issues using sata DVD/RW's to install XP on some Gigabyte P35 boards... I'd recommend this instead:

LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM - $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that drops your overall price below $700...

where's your operating system?
June 16, 2008 2:42:26 PM

Think of this.....your spending 200$+ on a CPU, 100$+ on a motherboard, 200$+ on a video card.

Are you going to directly connect all of this expensive equipment with a power supply you have no idea even what the
brand name is? (I don't think Raidmax makes PSU's......)

Your Video card & both drives get powered from the 1 22A Rail here.....

June 16, 2008 2:46:01 PM

also, i agree with the previous posters that I wouldn't stick with a 500W PSU from a $99 RAIDMax case... if it was Antec, it'd be a different story... but then again, if it was an Antec case w/ 500W power supply, it'd be more than $99...

you get what you pay for, don't let your $700 mid-range gaming system go up in smoke in 6 months because your PSU pops a capacitor and sends a hefty surge through your motherboard and graphics card...

only saying that because it happened to me... invest a good $100 (give or take) in a power supply that will last you through upgrades...

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply UL, cUL, CE, CB, RoHS - Retail $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$30 more for a 610W ($109):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$40 more than that for a 750W ($149):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Good luck and enjoy
June 16, 2008 2:53:18 PM

Per the graphics card manufacturer, that power supply (the one that comes with the case) won't be enough.....



What are the system requirements for the 8800GTX and 8800GTS?
Print

8800 GTX: This graphics card requires:
PCI Express®-compliant motherboard with one x16 graphics slot 2 6-pin supplementary power connectors. Minimum 450W or greater system power supply (with 12V current rating of 30A)*


8800 GTS: This graphics card requires:

PCI Express®-compliant motherboard with one x16 graphics slot 6-pin supplementary power connector Minimum 400W or greater system power supply (with 12V current rating of 26A)*

*Minimum system power requirement based on a PC configured with an Intel® Core%u21222 Extreme X6800

http://www.zotac.com/index.php?option=com_easyfaq&task=...
June 16, 2008 2:56:10 PM

truromeo4juliet said:
i had some issues using sata DVD/RW's to install XP on some Gigabyte P35 boards... I'd recommend this instead:

LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM - $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that drops your overall price below $700...

where's your operating system?


it is going to be windows vista 64bit - why doesn't the SATA drive work with it?

y2kgtp said:
Think of this.....your spending 200$+ on a CPU, 100$+ on a motherboard, 200$+ on a video card.

Are you going to directly connect all of this expensive equipment with a power supply you have no idea even what the
brand name is? (I don't think Raidmax makes PSU's......)

Your Video card & both drives get powered from the 1 22A Rail here.....

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-156-062-26.jpg


it says raidmax on it lol but what will happen if i just the stock psu?
June 16, 2008 3:01:37 PM

ragingazn628 said:


it says raidmax on it lol but what will happen if i just the stock psu?


Per your video card website, that PSU does not have enough current to run the card, much less the
drives in the case as well.


What's your budget?
June 16, 2008 4:16:09 PM

Also 4Amps can make a difference?
June 16, 2008 4:17:08 PM

ragingazn628 said:
^ about 800 dollars I need about 200 for a 22 inch monitor. So my parts will die if I use that PSU? If so then I will get these babies http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I like that case...I almost got it when I was looking at mid\full size....I went MicroATX to be different and wanted a small case.

On the PSU:
Output +3.3V@36A,+5V@30A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,
+12V4@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A +12V4@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A

The 36A total is still split between 2 seperate 12v rails. I know that the PCIe connector pulls power from the 12V rail, but not sure if it does 1 rail, or both at once? (Someone help out here...)

This is what I ordered for myself
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Output +3.3V@30A,+5V@20A,+12V@41A,-12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3A

You got 41A on 1 rail...no worrying if 1 rail or the other has enough current to run your stuff......IMO








June 16, 2008 4:19:49 PM




The Antec is what was recommended to me numerous times on here, for a case with PCU as it has a
earthwatts power supply as well. I wanted something I could make a bit flashier, so I went a different
path. (I'm tired of plain beige cases......as my past several cases have been I want some blue light! :lol:  )

June 16, 2008 4:39:16 PM

Also 4Amps can make a difference?
June 16, 2008 4:44:24 PM

I think he is fine with the power supply. Sharkey Extreme uses this case and power supply with their budget builds.

"The RAIDMAX Smilodon is offered in both bare and bundled PSU configurations, and since the price discrepancy is around $10-$15 in return for a 500W PSU, we obviously chose this option. The power supply is well equipped for a value system, and in addition to the ample 500W rating, it features 20/24-pin main power, and connectors for 4-pin 12V CPU, 6-pin PCI Express, and SATA power. For those that do want the flexibility of a separate PSU, simply buy the bare bones model."

Here is the summary of their system.


Case: RAIDMAX Smilodon ATX-612WBP (with 500W PSU) - $94
CPU: Core 2 Duo E8200 (2.66GHz) Retail - $185
Cooling: included Retail HSF - $0
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (P35) - $90
Memory: Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400 2x1-GB - $48
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s - $70
Video Card: GeForce 9600 GT 512MB (PCIe) - $144
Monitor: 19" LCD with 5-8ms Refresh - $165
Sound Card: 8-Channel Integrated - $0
Speakers: Logitech X-530 6-Piece Speaker System - $55
CD/DVD-ROM: Samsung SH-S203B 20X SATA DVD Writer - $24
Communications: Onboard LAN - $0
Mouse: Logitech MX310 - $24
Keyboard: Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard - $15
Operating System: Windows XP Home or Vista Home Basic- $82


Total: $996

June 16, 2008 6:07:07 PM

Ok so I am fine with the original case right?
June 16, 2008 8:01:34 PM

ragingazn628 said:
am I all set? =D





http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/MVGSBG/article.php/...

Check out the link for other suggestions if you feel your power supply is not enough. They do some pretty good buying guides...imo....

This is the power supply I got, Cooler Master 650W Real Power Pro RS-650 this was from their high end guide but I have a power hungry AMD system :D 
June 16, 2008 8:37:59 PM

I would recommend getting a Tier 1 brand like Thermaltake, Consair, Antec for psu.
June 16, 2008 9:22:09 PM

But I am asking if it is safe for me to build with this stock power - everything will run fine and stable - I will not Overclock or SLI
June 16, 2008 10:24:29 PM

ragingazn628 said:
But I am asking if it is safe for me to build with this stock power - everything will run fine and stable - I will not Overclock or SLI


You can always give it a try. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work...then you get another PSU. If it works, then great.
June 16, 2008 10:27:26 PM

what do you mean it doesn't work? Like it won't turn on or will it burn everything?
June 16, 2008 10:36:51 PM

ragingazn628 said:
what do you mean it doesn't work? Like it won't turn on or will it burn everything?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 (39.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V

My advice...buy that psu up above, then check out those two links at the bottom. You can find a decent case on there with decent cooling, and room to work with for under $50. Add the case you choose with that psu up top, and you will get something you know is going to work for well under $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
June 17, 2008 12:09:34 AM

it won't blow up anything right? (the stock PSU)
June 17, 2008 12:27:14 AM

Ummm....

No offense , but if I were to build a HIGH END GAMING MACHINE I would be spending more than $710 just for the graphics cards.
June 17, 2008 1:15:52 AM

jaguarskx said:
Ummm....

No offense , but if I were to build a HIGH END GAMING MACHINE I would be spending more than $710 just for the graphics cards.


I think he got the point with the previous post, but he did do a really good job with his budget. . btw not all of us on here would blow the kind of money you did on that quad in your sig.
June 17, 2008 1:49:11 AM

ragingazn628 said:
will it go kaboom?!



You should be fine> I ran my system off a crappy power supply for over a year before it stated to fail.

I have built many systems over the years and none of them have ever gone kaboom! Maybe a little smoke every once in a while but that is about it.
June 18, 2008 12:31:40 AM

it will fail after a year you say?
June 18, 2008 1:00:18 AM

ragingazn628 said:
it will fail after a year you say?



Do you have a price (limit) to what you want to spend on a gaming rig? If so post what range your thinking about spending please.
June 18, 2008 2:14:28 AM

my limit is $1000 dollars I already spent 190 on a 22inch monitor and 120 on a video card 8800gts 640mb so I have 690 left to spend
June 18, 2008 5:30:51 AM

I didn't add a cpu in this build, but this is the rest of it. That case is large, it has good airflow; aluminum with a side air duct and 3x120mm case fans. That heatsink is a good one, same with the thermal compound. The memory will easily overclock...it has good timings and mushkin uses micron D9 sticks. That mobo is a P45 and is a decent overclocker. It's a step up from the P35's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $52.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $5.99
MASSCOOL FD12025B1L3/4 120mm Case Fan - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 ($39.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 ($14.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99
MSI P45 Neo3-FR LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 ($74.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

Total
$469.91
$414.91 w/mail in rebates
June 18, 2008 5:49:21 AM

Would recommend the P5Q-Pro as mobo.
June 18, 2008 11:40:07 AM

The P45 is the newest chipset? I also already have ram (2gig 1 stick) and why not add 10 more dollars for 32mb cache for the HD?
June 18, 2008 3:55:00 PM

How is the P5Q-Pro better
June 19, 2008 1:52:07 AM

I will build this soon just waiting til the weekends to see the deals
June 19, 2008 2:03:31 AM

Lots of good reviews, apparently it overclocks like a breeze.
June 19, 2008 3:43:31 AM

ragingazn6 28 -

basically with going with a PSU that comes with a case, particularly a case that is quite cheap, means that there is a greater chance that the PSU like the case may be cheap. This does not mean that it will not work for what you want, but you have to take into account that it is coming with the case for a reason, it is a low end PSU. For what you seem to want it for it should be okay, take into account the comments of others and to save yourself time and simply feel secure a better PSU WILL be a good investment. A good quality PSU is as important as any other part of your computer, so it is not something that you should skimp on.

June 19, 2008 11:08:50 AM

Why_Me said:
Save yourself some money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99 ($59.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V CB, CE, CSA, UL, FCC - Retail

Today the antect goes for 60 bucks no rebate and free shipping =D so is it good for my build? better than the OCZ i believe?
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