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nh484000   08-03-2008 at 08:13:32 PM

I have a question im not sure if anyone here can help me.

Ive built about 5 computers in my life so im not a newbe but i dont know everything.

Heres my problem

At work I picked up a free P4HT 2.6 478 pin CPU. This is the same socket set that its my parents compaq s4000v Computer at some so i was going to swap them out. They currently have a 2.2 P4. So i figured wht not it was free. I installed the new CPU it works and the HT works however its only running at 1.733 GHZ accourding to CPUz. I updated the motherboard to the newest BIOS that they have for it.

So my question is why isnt it running at 2.6. and if i cant get it running at 2.6 is it faster to run at 1.733 with the HT or put the old cpu in and run it at 2.2. thanks for your help

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Asus A8N-SLI pre
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jimmysmitty   08-03-2008 at 08:18:49 PM
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Wow thats an oldie. Have you checked Compaqs site to make sure that computer supports a P4 w/HT? The socket is not all that has to be compatable.

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nh484000   08-03-2008 at 08:21:37 PM
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the old CPU is actually 2.4 ghz not 2.2

I really couldnt find any info on support but ill tell you this im typing this info on that computer. and the HT is working. I can see two "cores" in the manager so. other than that im at a loss thanks for the reply

------------------------------ AMD 4200+ @ 2.62Ghz
4 GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 @ 2.85
Asus A8N-SLI pre
36 GB Raptor
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The_Blood_Raven   08-03-2008 at 08:28:46 PM
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Sounds like you might have to set the clocks yourself because the board can not detect your CPU settings.


Message edited by The_Blood_Raven on 08-03-2008 at 08:29:11 PM
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nh484000   08-03-2008 at 08:34:29 PM
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I looked into that and in the BIOS i dont get to set anything. Is there a a way to unlock these motherboards so im allowed to set the clocks myself. thanks

------------------------------ AMD 4200+ @ 2.62Ghz
4 GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 @ 2.85
Asus A8N-SLI pre
36 GB Raptor
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mike99   08-03-2008 at 10:45:06 PM
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CPU-Z also tells you the FSB and memory speed. If you are running at incorrect FSB that would explain it. You may have Speedstep running. Run a CPU test program to give it some work and see if it speeds up?

Mike.

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jimmysmitty   08-03-2008 at 10:55:59 PM
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^Speedstep did not exist on those Pentium 4s.

Sadly to say it seems like a support issue to me.

Keep trying Compaqs website or if you can find the mobo model let us know.

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nh484000   08-03-2008 at 11:07:22 PM
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from what i can find i have a K2-GL6E motherboard in this rig.. I have no idea who makes it but i googled it and im trying to find some info on it.

CPUZ says in running a 13x multiplier, 133 bus, and 533 FSB

------------------------------ AMD 4200+ @ 2.62Ghz
4 GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 @ 2.85
Asus A8N-SLI pre
36 GB Raptor
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roadrunner197069   08-03-2008 at 11:28:51 PM
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Its obviously not fully supported. Go back to waht it had.

Either way both are junk. Do your parents a favor and get them a new motherboard with atleast a e1200 celeron and some 800 ram. Total is around $140 and the difference will be night and day.

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nh484000   08-03-2008 at 11:36:26 PM
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oh yeah i know they are both junk i was just looking for a free upgrade. To them they wont even know the different the most demanding thing they run in ms2000 and firefox at the same time.

------------------------------ AMD 4200+ @ 2.62Ghz
4 GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 @ 2.85
Asus A8N-SLI pre
36 GB Raptor
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orangegator   08-04-2008 at 12:06:14 AM
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nh484000 wrote :

I have a question im not sure if anyone here can help me.

Ive built about 5 computers in my life so im not a newbe but i dont know everything.

Heres my problem

At work I picked up a free P4HT 2.6 478 pin CPU. This is the same socket set that its my parents compaq s4000v Computer at some so i was going to swap them out. They currently have a 2.2 P4. So i figured wht not it was free. I installed the new CPU it works and the HT works however its only running at 1.733 GHZ accourding to CPUz. I updated the motherboard to the newest BIOS that they have for it.

So my question is why isnt it running at 2.6. and if i cant get it running at 2.6 is it faster to run at 1.733 with the HT or put the old cpu in and run it at 2.2. thanks for your help



I think the problem is that the older motherboard can only do 533mhz fsb and the newer cpu is 800mhz fsb. So at full speed the new cpu is 13*200 = 2600Mhz. But at the 533mhz fsb, it runs at 13*133 = 1729mhz. Nothing you can do about it. The only way to upgrade the cpu in that computer is to get a P4 with a 533fsb.

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nh484000   08-04-2008 at 12:24:11 AM
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that does make sense.. thanks for the help everyone!

------------------------------ AMD 4200+ @ 2.62Ghz
4 GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 @ 2.85
Asus A8N-SLI pre
36 GB Raptor
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JonathanDeane   08-04-2008 at 03:32:00 AM
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One final tidbit is that the CPU with HT might help in help with multitasking (every PC multi tasks even if the user does not)
So while it may be slower in MHz it might be faster for the things they do with the computer ? (only playing around with the PC and seeing what they think of it will tell you that)

Edit: Also yes the 533 and 800Mhz bus thing is right on the money (although this does answer some questions for me lol)


Message edited by JonathanDeane on 08-04-2008 at 03:32:58 AM
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orion1024   08-04-2008 at 03:37:23 AM
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I wouldn't say those CPUs are junk, but the difference in performance between the two isn't worth the effort...even if the new one was supported by the mobo. IF you were going to do a budget build for a new system, go for the E2160 or E2180 as opposed to the Celeron 1200...the Pentiums are only a little more and have 1MB of L2 cache. The Celeron 1200 is crippled with only 512KB of L2.

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