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June 16, 2008 8:56:01 PM

Im looking to make a new system that will play games but wont break my bank, im not after a liquid cooled star trek styled job since im not really into playing crysis on max i just enjoy MMO/RTS games and the odd killing spree on HL2.

Ive been trying to keep below £500 which is incredibly hard especially when fishing for a monitor aswel.

Heres what ive spotted:

mobo/ram/pcu - £120

GPU - £100

PSU/Case - £50

Monitor - £150

Hard Drive - £40



It comes nicely within budget, im gonna salvage a CD drive and keyboard from an older system and just use one of the XP disks i have already for the OS.


The CPU/Mobo/RAM bundle worries me slightly, will this bottleneck my system?

Also will all that fit into the case? and will the PSU(460W) be enough to power the graphics card?


Thanks for looking!

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June 17, 2008 12:33:16 AM

Foxcon does not produce very high quality motherboards. I am iffy about that too. However, wow the selection and Overclockers and eBuyer sucks compared to newegg.

nVidia min specs for an 8800GT is 450W. Make sure that PSU has the proper PCI-E power connectors though.

June 17, 2008 1:00:21 AM
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June 17, 2008 1:07:36 AM

+1, change the psu and mobo. The P5Q Pro.
June 17, 2008 2:45:38 AM

I know its depressing, reading through all the other builds and seeing how much you can buy in america for £500 compared to what you get from here is sick.

Pretty much stuck with ebuyer and a couple of others like ariapc and microdirect.

Anyone got any suggestions for changes on the CPU and mobo front? looking for something roughly the same price from a website thats based in europe :p 
June 17, 2008 3:36:37 AM

This rig will not bottleneck. I added the aftermarket heatsink becouse it's a good one, and it comes pre applied with MX-2 thermal grease...which is a good, and it saves you from having to purchase any. Now if you take that cpu, and move up the FSB to 9.5x333 it will give you 3.16GHz. And with this cpu that is the natural overclock and you don't have to up your voltage at all to get that speed...wich means no added heat. The vid card is factory overclocked for the same price as the card you found. The board is a good one with a decent layout and no bugs. Anyways this is what I came up with.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101 £49.99
Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU *SPECIAL

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...'Wolfdale'%20%202.53GHz%20(1066FSB)%20-%20Retail £75.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 2.53GHz (1066FSB) - Retail

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB...(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard £49.99
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Intel P35 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS...(Socket%20LGA775) £14.99
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY...(2x1GB)%20PC2-6400C5%20800MHz%20Value%20DDR2%20Dual%20Channel%20Kit%20(GX22GB6400DC) £25.99
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400DC)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD...(ST3250410AS) £31.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3250410AS)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail £99.99
MSI GeForce 8800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612 £139.99
Samsung Syncmaster SM2043NW 20" TFT Monitor 1680x1050 8000:1 5ms 16:9 VGA

Total
£488.92
June 17, 2008 12:43:32 PM


Couple of questions with those parts(couldnt edit my last post for some reason):

1.Will 460w be enough power for all those overclocked parts?
2.Does OEM on the hard drive mean that it doesnt come with the cables? or just without documents?
June 17, 2008 1:47:53 PM

OEM on the hard drive typically means you don't get any cables or software. That DS3L motherboard should come with 2 SATA cables, and the software, if needed, can usually be downloaded for free.

Yes, 460W is enough, but very close to the limit. Also, that PSU works at 70% efficiency, which means 30% of what you pay for becomes heat. Typically a good PSU works at 80% or even 85%. Can you afford a Sonata 3 case with the 500W Earthwatts PSU in it?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128045
June 17, 2008 1:55:53 PM

Well im on budget but it isnt really strict, i think efficiency makes sense especially with crazy inflation in the UK atm.

The build above comes to about £550 when you include VAT so im just looking at ways to shave bits off mainly by shopping around for deals.
June 17, 2008 2:16:47 PM

Just from shopping with Ebuyers im saving a few quid.

Memory - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139662 - £28.99
Case/PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128045 - £75.99
Processor - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145258 - £82.95
Cooling - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994 - £15.62
Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143176 - £58.14
Hard Drive - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124735 - £36.17
Graphics Card - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143325 - £108.99
Monitor - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612 - £139.99

Totals up to £546.84

Im gonna compare across a few other sites and see if theres any deals about especially on the monitor and graphics card.




June 18, 2008 1:59:11 AM

Forum still wont let me edit things, tripple posting :( 

I was wondering about the motherboard since its now out of stock at ebuyer, what alternatives do i have? or am i better just waiting for stock or buying elsewhere?
June 18, 2008 2:05:52 AM

rich rich said:
Forum still wont let me edit things, tripple posting :( 

I was wondering about the motherboard since its now out of stock at ebuyer, what alternatives do i have? or am i better just waiting for stock or buying elsewhere?


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB...(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard
June 18, 2008 1:18:47 PM

rich rich said:
Forum still wont let me edit things, tripple posting :( 

I was wondering about the motherboard since its now out of stock at ebuyer, what alternatives do i have? or am i better just waiting for stock or buying elsewhere?


GA-EP35-DS3
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143228

GA-EP35-DS3R
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143226

Both are similar to the DS3L but with additional features (more SATA ports, eSATA, RAID (DS3R only), etc.)
June 18, 2008 1:29:20 PM

Thanks for all the help!

I just ordered it all, hard part is putting it together since this is my first build.

I know my way around PC's but never had to do anything more than change a graphics card or add RAM so il look up a few videos.
June 19, 2008 3:47:21 AM

The trickiest part (which isn't really hard) is applying the thermal paste to the CPU (don't put too much) and attaching the heat sink. Just take your time and be careful not to bump capacitors and such on the mobo and cards. Just read your mobo manual to see where to attach all the case lights and front USB/audio connectors.
June 19, 2008 11:03:00 AM

Well i was just fretting over the thermal paste but then i remembered that the cooler already has it pre-applied so thats one thing less to worry about.

Also the mobo mentions something about being robust because all its capacitors are solid state so i supose theres less chance of me screwing that part up aswel :p 
June 19, 2008 1:48:04 PM

Hey, they may be solid, but they're still fragile. The main thing about solid capacitors is that they last longer - it's just a smarter technology than the old one. I don't think "robust" means you can run the mobo over with the SUV and it still works :) 
June 21, 2008 1:49:23 AM

Well its all put together now and working great, thanks for all the input.

I was thinking of overclocking the PCU as Why_me suggested, ive looked(got hopelessly lost) at a few guides to overclocking but i dont really want to push the limits and mess around with temps and voltage i just wanna reach 3.16GHz.

Is it as simple as going into the bios and shifting the FSB to 333? no voltage change of software downloads needed?

Seems too good to be true but after seeing what other people have said about the PCU it would be a shame not to do something with it.
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