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utahraptor   07-05-2008 at 05:44:15 AM

I recently purchased a new computer with 4 gig of ram and an 8400 processor. I am running vista ultimate SP1. The computer kept crashing in world of warcraft. What would happen is that the screen would go blank, the hard drive would start running fast and I would still hill game noises for a few seconds and then the computer locked up with the sound looping real fast and the video card spinning up to max until I turned it off. I RMAed the video card and got an ASUS 4850 and reformatted the harddrive. I have tried drivers 8.5, 8.6 and the 8.6 hotfix for 4850. I am running the with the quality slider set to high. I have the fan set on 50% and the card only gets about 60 degrees. Is there anything I can do to try and find out what is wrong?


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utahraptor   07-05-2008 at 06:30:35 AM
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BTW I have read hundreds of thread dating back to 2004 with people having the EXACT same problem and it does not matter what kind of computer or what kind of graphics card they have. The common thing with these hundreds of threads is that not a SINGLE ONE has a solution. What should I do? I am thinking about trying to sell this brand new system I bought 2 weeks ago for half of what I payed for it just to rid myself of it. I have to say that **** like this is major depressing.

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kad   07-05-2008 at 06:58:10 AM
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Try to run these games on XP
I'm quite sure it's Vista issues

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BLACKSCI   07-05-2008 at 07:04:38 AM
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That is not a vista issue, that is a issue with drivers, if your going to place the blame somewhere, at least give a informed decision.

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sarwar_r87   07-05-2008 at 07:19:20 AM
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what psu r u using......try replacing it

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
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copasetic   07-05-2008 at 11:12:12 AM
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That should be fine. I agree with BLACKSCI it's probably an issue with the Vista Catalyst drivers, or possibly drivers for other hardware (like the sound drivers maybe). Try the 8.7 beta drivers that were just leaked:

http://www.toomanydownloads.com/in [...] &Itemid=54

------------------------------ Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6 GHz -- Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R -- HIS HD 4870 @ 790/1100 -- 2 GB Corsair XMS2 6400 4-4-4-12 -- Silverstone Zeus 750W -- 900 GB HDDs -- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro -- Acer AL2216W 22" @ 1680x1050

"Let fly the white flag of war!"
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Doltron   07-05-2008 at 12:20:20 PM
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Quit playing wow.

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foxhound009   07-05-2008 at 12:39:54 PM
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Drivers m8... never buy an graphic card before it got it's drivers.... tested and retested.... there's still no ati 4800 series on ATI's driver support site....

but for the time being.... try to change few settings such as AA
and other filters I know this card should have like 250 fps with all filters on
and on really high reso on WOW
but sometimes something like AA might screw things up.

just try to fool around in the filters section of CCC...

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utahraptor   07-05-2008 at 08:03:52 PM
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I am now using the super secret drivers. Right away I can tell they are working better as with the other ones if I would turn my character to face a different direction there would be a temporary drop in FPS like the card was loading in textures or something. If I would turn around and turn back the drop would not occur as it had already loaded. Now it is 60 non stop with filtering all the way up. I am now going to play nonstop as long as I can trying to fish out a crash. If this fixes it and the problem all along was drivers I will be pissed. It should be criminal to sell a card without drivers that work.

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BLACKSCI   07-06-2008 at 12:45:37 AM
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Oh man, see you had to go and tell people, now there is a super secret drive code of conduct, and you just broke the rule here, sorry man but were gonna have to kill you ......

------------------------------ Q6600@3.2g, 4 gigs 2x2 ADATA Pc 6400, XFX 8800 GTS 512 G92, GIGABITE GA-P35-DS3L, ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER PRO 7, Antec 900 case, Antec 500 earthwatt p.s. 27.5" Hannspreee monitor (oh yeah!!)
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copasetic   07-06-2008 at 12:48:33 AM
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Quote :

If this fixes it and the problem all along was drivers I will be pissed. It should be criminal to sell a card without drivers that work.


Be glad it wasn't a broken card. Drivers are always a bit crap right after a new product line gets released, it's always been that way especially with ATI. I'm actually surprised how few problems there were this time around.

------------------------------ Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6 GHz -- Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R -- HIS HD 4870 @ 790/1100 -- 2 GB Corsair XMS2 6400 4-4-4-12 -- Silverstone Zeus 750W -- 900 GB HDDs -- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro -- Acer AL2216W 22" @ 1680x1050

"Let fly the white flag of war!"
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ZootyGray   07-06-2008 at 01:39:47 AM
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Blame it on Windoze.

A friend recently had a problem with an error msg =

Cannot find Drive C !!!! (while in windoze!)

A classic case of windoze can't find it's ass!!!! :)

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utahraptor   07-06-2008 at 01:43:05 AM
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I have now played over 5 hours with heavy alt tabbing and no crashes. I really hope the issue is now fixed.

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utahraptor   07-06-2008 at 10:22:50 PM
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Okay, I am so depressed right now my next step for fixing this computer is probably throwing it off of a bridge near my house. It would almost be worth seeing it in pieces after the **** its put me throught. I was not even playing a game when I got a blue screen of death error. I was just watching a windows picture slideshow of my vacation. Is there anyone out there that would please tell me how to find out what the blue screen error was? It went to fast for me to see. I can't find it in the event viewer.

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copasetic   07-07-2008 at 12:14:02 AM
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If it's not in the event viewer then I don't know of a way to see what it was. Microsoft decided it would 'get rid of blue screens' by just not showing them to you and rebooting the system automatically instead. Screwing any chance you may have had to figure out what caused the error and fix it.

In XP there's an option to turn this 'feature' off, by going to Control Panel>System>Advanced>Startup and Recovery and making sure "Automatically restart" is unchecked. I don't know if you can do that in Vista too.

------------------------------ Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6 GHz -- Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R -- HIS HD 4870 @ 790/1100 -- 2 GB Corsair XMS2 6400 4-4-4-12 -- Silverstone Zeus 750W -- 900 GB HDDs -- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro -- Acer AL2216W 22" @ 1680x1050

"Let fly the white flag of war!"
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utahraptor   07-07-2008 at 01:20:13 AM
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Here is something you might find interesting. The driver somehow corrupted and/or uninstalled itself. The problem of my fps dropping majorly when I spun my character around returned and I am thinking that may be related to the crash I had to day because I uninstalled the driver, ran cleaner pro and then reinstalled it and the problem went away again. Can drivers screw themselves up just to spite the user?

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BLACKSCI   07-07-2008 at 03:10:04 PM
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You might have got a corrupted download, or were missing a small bit of info in just the right spot, yadda yadda yadda, its sucks, but the net aint perfect and you wouldnt be the first person to have a drive go haywire from a download, it happens just uninstall, download again, and then reinstall.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.2g, 4 gigs 2x2 ADATA Pc 6400, XFX 8800 GTS 512 G92, GIGABITE GA-P35-DS3L, ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER PRO 7, Antec 900 case, Antec 500 earthwatt p.s. 27.5" Hannspreee monitor (oh yeah!!)
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Max48   07-09-2008 at 02:48:03 PM
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I just got a Saphire 4850HD and I'm having similar issues. Games are working, but for some reason WoW is very unstable and CTD are very frequent. I tried both Catalyst 8.6 hf and 8.7 beta. Im running XP SP3 BTW.

Max

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vegettonox   07-12-2008 at 12:07:34 PM
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Probably why they are beta drivers. you know not actual released drivers. also includes the little things called unsupport notices giving you the notice that these are not yet fully tested and supported.

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Max48   07-18-2008 at 09:24:54 PM
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I found this one:

"If users want to use ATI HD 4870/4850 series PCIE VGA card on 4CoreDual-SATA2/4CoreDual-VSTA/775Dual-VSTA, please suggest users to flash attached beta BIOS first.

BIOS L2.02 for 4CoreDual-SATA2
BIOS L2.33 for 4CoreDual-VSTA
BIOS L3.13 for 775Dual-VSTA"

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=75467

I'll give it a try tonight.

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