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June 18, 2008 3:58:02 AM

I plan to start buying the parts for this soon and need to make sure they are all compatible. If you can recommend some better pieces do it but make sure you keep price in mind.

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC

Processors - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 Allendale 2.4GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

DVD/CD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T OEM - OEM

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

I appreciate any help. -Edit This is my first attempt at building a PC.

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June 18, 2008 4:31:20 AM

Please label your links if you wish to responses. People do not like to click all of links just to see your parts.
June 18, 2008 4:59:06 AM

If i were you, I would change that 160GB hdd to a 320GB, they aren't much more expensive and 2x the space.

You might want to change your case to the Antec sonata III http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024. It comes with a nice 500W PSU that would be plenty for your system. And should be better quality than your rosewill PSU.

And, you might want to check out the e2xxx intel series instead of that e4600. You oculd easilly match the clock speed by a small overclock.

And, what do you plan to do with this PC?
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June 18, 2008 5:02:43 AM

I think you got the labels mixed up for psu and hd, I would change mobo if possible. Are you planning to game on this machine? If so, that video card might not cut it. PSU, should be changed to either Thermaltake, Enermax, Antec or a better psu. If you plan to overclock, you would probably want a more reliable psu.
June 18, 2008 5:16:41 AM

I plan to use this for light gaming as I do most of my gaming on my 360. I really don't care if its maxed out as long as it runs with little lag (Even on minimum settings) so the gfx card shouldn't be a problem for me. As for my hdd 160GB is more then enough for me but I will look at with you recommended.

And thanks shadow I fixed the label.
June 18, 2008 5:34:34 AM

Nothing really wrong with the parts you picked.
But I think you can do better - especially if you intend to use this PC for gaming - and we'd all like to see you get a better video card.

Rosewill TU-155-P case $50 and $0.99 shipping (saves $5 on case and $18 on shipping)

Antec Earthwatts 430W PSU $30 after $30 rebate (saves $20 on PSU and $9.71 on shipping)

C2D E2180 2.0Ghz Allendale CPU $70 (saves $50) or C2D E2200 2.2Ghz Allendale CPU $80 (saves $40)

Same motherboard, HDD, DVD burner and RAM.

XFX 8800GS XXX OC 384MB $100 after $30 rebate or Evga 8800GS 384MB $90 after $30 rebate ($40/$30 more than the Evga 8600GT)






June 18, 2008 5:44:15 AM

+1 for the antec sonata 3, would recommend getting the 8800GT as prices are slipping with the release of the GTX 260, 280.
June 18, 2008 5:52:30 AM

I'll be switching the the 8600 for the EVGA 8800 in WR2's reply, as for the processor did you intend for me to oc? I'm a little worried about oc'ing something as I've never done it before. Still thinking about case and PSU.
June 18, 2008 6:00:49 AM

Overclocking is always optional. Its there if you want it and its actually easier than you'd expect.
There won't be hardly any difference in the 2.2Ghz E2200 and 2.4Ghz E4600.

Some of the Rosewill PSUs are very low quality and its hard to know for sure what the quaility is of the Rosewill PSU you picked without a good independent review. The Antec 430 is actually a very good PSU. Case choices are, of course, highly personal. Not everyone has the same taste.
June 18, 2008 6:03:59 AM

NeonFc said:
I plan to use this for light gaming as I do most of my gaming on my 360. I really don't care if its maxed out as long as it runs with little lag (Even on minimum settings) so the gfx card shouldn't be a problem for me. As for my hdd 160GB is more then enough for me but I will look at with you recommended.

And thanks shadow I fixed the label.


Neon for your first build you did great! I mean you don't have one stupid peice of hardware on that build, it's lean and practical...and it works...well except for the mobo. That's a micro mobo, and they don't fit so well with the case your going to use...which is the same case (Cooler Master Centurion) I have use for my rig, and the same one I used in two other builds...I love that case. Neon, your just a few dollars away from making that rig alot faster, and for little money. First lets fix that mobo for ya. Oh and that case comes with 2 fans, but you will want to add a 120mm intake fan up front...it's set up for it, and it makes a big difference for that case. It really improves the airflow.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99
GIGABYTE GA-P31-S3G LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
MASSCOOL FD12025S1L3/4 120mm Case Fan - Retail

Ok, now if you want to up that rig of yours to the next level for very little added cost to you. It will allow you to play alot more games to where you might forget about that 360 of yours. :p  That cpu below is set for the easiest overclock you can imagine. The multiplier on it is 9.5, so if you went into your bios and moved up your FSB to 9.5x333 = 3.16GHz.. and you don't have to mess with anything including your voltage to get that overclock. It takes all but a few minutes to do. But anyways if you want to bring that rig to the next level for super cheap, that's the stuff down below. :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $87.99 ($72.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)
ABIT IP35P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99
XFX PVT88PUHF4 GeForce 8800 GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

June 18, 2008 6:11:00 AM

Btw, i don't think the DVD drives you choose is a DVD burner.
Anyway, if I had to build a budget PC that could run some games, that is what i would get. I did choose some weird company that i never heard of before.

Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148316 68$

PSU+Case:Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024 130$

CPU:Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052 70$

Motherboard:ZOTAC N73V-Value LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500005 49$

Video Card:BIOSTAR V9603GT52 GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141073 140$

DVD burner: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM SATA Combo - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106100 23$

RAM: WINTEC AMPO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161677 38$

For a total of 517.89$+tax and shipping

EDIT: Changed the hdd to a better one, thanks why_me
June 18, 2008 6:17:47 AM

Here's another vote for the Antec Sonata III - a great quiet case with eSata on the front and great Antec Earthwatts 500 PSU - and here is better price that on sale at $115 with shipping makes it almost exactly the same as your original choice in case and PSU

http://www.buy.com/prod/antec-sonata-iii-super-mini-tow...
June 18, 2008 6:40:15 AM

BigBurn said:
Btw, i don't think the DVD drives you choose is a DVD burner.
Anyway, if I had to build a budget PC that could run some games, that is what i would get. I did choose some weird company that i never heard of before.

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098 65$

PSU+Case:Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024 130$

CPU:Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052 70$

Motherboard:ZOTAC N73V-Value LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500005 49$

Video Card:BIOSTAR V9603GT52 GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141073 140$

DVD burner: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM SATA Combo - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106100 23$

RAM: WINTEC AMPO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161677 38$

For a total of 514.89$+tax and shipping


Bigburn, I like that Antec combo....but the harddrive you linked makes zero sense for a build unless he wants room for pr0n and tunes and I will explain why. First of all you sacrificed his cpu for a larger HD...that cpu you chose is ghetto. Now if he was going to up his peformance for a HD and he's on a budget, well then he would get the Seagate 250GB with 16MB cache. That extra 8MB cache is nice, and it does make a difference. Not only that but it's only $59.99...budget and performance bigburn.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

btw, I have that same Lighton you posted bigburn, and I love it. :) 
June 18, 2008 7:00:35 AM

Woops, didn't saw it was 8MB cache, ill change it with one with 16MB, but it's still 68$, only 8$ for 70GB more and better speed i think it's worth it even on a budget build. +It will be one of the newer .11, the one you gave is a .10.

I didn't trashed the cpu for bigger harddrive, I just think 160GB is way too small. Maybe it's because i have the bad habbit of keeping all my games installed "in case I want to play again in the future".

I do agree that the e4000 are better, but this is a low end build. Im pretty sure the e2180 will fit his need.

And thanks on the dvd drive feedback ^^
June 18, 2008 3:22:37 PM

How's this?

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 384-P3-N851-AR GeForce 8800 GS 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

CD/DVD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T OEM

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

I'll go with the 2180 to help the price but oc it to help the performance. I just need to know now if this is all compatible and if the Micro ATX Motherboard and case is going to be a problem. But if you still think I sould change some parts tel me now.



June 18, 2008 7:39:29 PM

Everything should work, but you know that the hdd ou choose is a 7200.10, which is slower than the 7200.11 i gave you before (i think 8$ for that upgrade is really worth it)? And I don't know if you want a DVD burner, but the one you pikcked is only a reader.
June 21, 2008 4:05:29 PM

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NeonFc said:

I just need to know now if this is all compatible and if the Micro ATX Motherboard and case is going to be a problem. But if you still think I sould change some parts tel me now.


The case is not a micro case but a mid tower - which is probably larger than most cases sold to the mainstream market these days. I doubt you really want a full tower case.

On the mobo - there are several things you will forgo by not going to a more expensive board - say compared to the popular GA-P35-DS3L (which I have) for $30 more:
1. Most importantly the the G31 northbridge is not as fast as the P35 - but it is serviceable
2. You only have two memory slots so your 2 sticks will fill that - if you want to increase memory later you will need to throw them out and buy all knew - ATX mobos have 4 slots so you could just add. But 2 GB might be fine if you don't do memory intensive work and should work fine for gaming now
3. You have only about half the card slots in the G31 - but if they are enough for you that is not an issue
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