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Intel Quad Q6600 4.0Ghz????

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August 6, 2008 12:32:44 AM

How far can you push a Intel Quad Q6600 on air. I've heard you can push it to 3.2 no problem on air , but can you push it further on air. And i have not heard anything about water cooling. Can you push it to 3.7-4.0 with water?

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August 6, 2008 12:40:31 AM

I have seen 4GHz on air but would be better with water. As for the stability I cannot say.
August 6, 2008 12:57:03 AM

You can get 3.4 to 3.6 on AIR.

You should be able to get 3.8 to 4.0 on Water, but whats the point?
Spend a Bit more and get a Q9550 after the Price Drop and use Air to OC that. They are Faster Clock for Clock and will OC higher with a good Mobo on Air.


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August 6, 2008 12:58:54 AM

Q6600 is cheap(179$) and overclocks pretty good. How much are 9550 now? 300$+?
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August 6, 2008 1:52:26 AM

zen I agree with you... but some people don't have the cash for a 9550
August 6, 2008 2:05:35 AM

The point is that a GOOD water cooling solution is very expensive.
FAIR water coolers don't really do much more than a good air solution.
They just cost much more.

So with the Money Saved you could get a Q9450 or Q9550 and OC on air as much as you could the Q6600 with water for about the same price.
(The 45nm Quads will be cut in price come Aug 10th) with the Q9550 dropping to Q9450 price. THe Q9400 will be released at Q9300 prices and the Q9300 will be dropped.)

It may be possible to save money buy going water, I would just be surprised.
August 6, 2008 2:12:31 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i...

The Link Above shows even fairly pricey water coolers have a tough time with good AirCoolers.

To really outclass a very good air cooler you will need to spend very big bucks.

Now, there may have been a new cheap water cooler to change the market, but not that I know of but I'm not into extreme OC'ing.
August 6, 2008 2:16:56 AM

I agree. A Q9550 with a good air cooler makes more sense money wise than Q6600 with water. If you already had a good water cooling kit then the Q6600 would be the better choice. Starting from scratch though it just isn't the case.
August 6, 2008 2:30:10 AM

my q6600 is running at 3.6 (400*9) and its stable as anything...i'm sure with a better mobo i could push more.
August 6, 2008 3:40:28 AM

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zen I agree with you... but some people don't have the cash for a 9550


For the moment the Q9450 is the best bang for your buck chip, imho. It's the cheapest/lowest chip to have both the big cache size, and the 45nm architecture. They cost $300 give or take 10 bucks...

Have you looked into Lapping the CPU and Heatsink?

- Witt
August 6, 2008 7:59:04 AM

I have never personally seen a Q6600 at 4Ghz, even some of the better overclockers struggle at 3.8-3.9 let alone 4Ghz. I would like to see one in real life, because that dude would really be kickin' it.
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August 6, 2008 2:11:39 PM

^I saw one. Some guy got his hands on a ES Q6600 that had a unlocked multi. He set it to 10 and the FSB to 400MHz. I was envious.
August 6, 2008 8:13:21 PM

4ghz isnt that hard you can reach 4ghz with air on a Q6600.


But the voltages required are just too high to use it for 24/7 use. \For benches its fine.

With high voltages like the ones needed the temps really dont matter though.


3.6ghz at max, imo. A nice 400x9. For DDR2-800. Who really needs more?

August 6, 2008 9:41:02 PM

iv got mine to 3.7 on air with a thermalright ultra-120 however it wasnt stable. but it was stable enough to run 3dmark
August 6, 2008 11:36:58 PM

To conclude what others have said, if you're not willing to drop more than 200 bucks on water cooling, stick with the air cooling.

I've seen Q6600 at 4.0Ghz on air, but that was achieved with a very good chip (VID:1.225 IIRC). For normal Q6600s, you would need suicidal Vcore, as well as very good (and uber expensive) exotic cooling set up to get to 4.0Ghz. As a result, its not recommended.
August 7, 2008 12:40:33 AM

vouslavous said:
How far can you push a Intel Quad Q6600 on air. I've heard you can push it to 3.2 no problem on air , but can you push it further on air. And i have not heard anything about water cooling. Can you push it to 3.7-4.0 with water?



6 ghz at absolute zero?

5ghz with lquid N and 3v?



3.6ghz is the sweet spot due to instablity in chipsets above 400fsb and high voltage required.

3.8ghz is pushing it, life expecteny drops off fast with higher voltage


this was answered about a year ago by me! the post is cryptic - but 4.1ghz was the pentium sweets spot and 4.25 was do able.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/244351-28-61ghz-1ghz
August 7, 2008 1:30:57 AM

dragonsprayer said:
6 ghz at absolute zero?

5ghz with lquid N and 3v?


:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

6Ghz? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

5Ghz w/ LN2 and 3V Vcore? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
August 7, 2008 2:47:37 AM

Can't get mine past 3.2 on air, and I have to up the voltage quite a bit to do it compared to 3ghz with no voltage increase, kinda weird. My temps aren't too horrible, just isn't stable. Wondering I should play with other voltages maybe.
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August 7, 2008 5:34:12 AM

Mine is rock solid at 3.2-3.4, and it works at 3.6, though at much higher temps and a slight voltage bump. 4.0 would be quite a stretch (this is with a Zalman CNPS9700)
August 7, 2008 5:41:11 AM

I am getting tired of hearing to much "false" information on overclocking from around the net. Because a couple of well respected people here have seen one at 4Ghz on air, I'm willing to believe it can be done. In some of the live OC forums peope plato at 3.8Ghz and thats with alot of well informed help and good gear. So if you've got yours at 4Ghz, treat yourself a beer because you sure did well. Cheers.

"Wondering I should play with other voltages maybe. "

I am betting 9/10 your northbridge needs an overvolt. Make sure you've got your memory sorted out and if overvolting the MCH doesn't do much, loosen up the settings on your ram. Good luck.
August 9, 2008 2:19:34 AM

why would you want to do air anyways , i think we r in the year 2008 not 1995, you want to do it right get a water setup stop being cheap, you gotta pay the cost to be the boss, your not going to go 200 mph in a POS, get a good board, tweak it right, water cool your componets, have good air flow in the case...start with that and see how far you get...you guys i swear air cooled cpu @ 3.6 4.0 ghz...... we are talking 24/7 everyday use @ those speeds go water or dont bother.
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August 9, 2008 4:19:59 AM

Vertigon said:
I am getting tired of hearing to much "false" information on overclocking from around the net. Because a couple of well respected people here have seen one at 4Ghz on air, I'm willing to believe it can be done. In some of the live OC forums peope plato at 3.8Ghz and thats with alot of well informed help and good gear. So if you've got yours at 4Ghz, treat yourself a beer because you sure did well. Cheers.

"Wondering I should play with other voltages maybe. "

I am betting 9/10 your northbridge needs an overvolt. Make sure you've got your memory sorted out and if overvolting the MCH doesn't do much, loosen up the settings on your ram. Good luck.

I'm not saying it won't do it. I'm just saying that from what I've seen, the majority need too much voltage for 4GHz to really run on air. They run too hot. A few select chips will probably run fine on air at 4GHz, but I wouldn't count on it.
August 9, 2008 4:33:59 AM

" I'm just saying that from what I've seen, the majority need too much voltage for 4GHz to really run on air. They run too hot."

I agree with you, I wasn't refering to your post. I just get a bit tired of people quoting massive clocks when in reality alot of the guys/girls that enter competition have to work to get there, and not to mention setting a bench even with prime etc doesn't mean a stable system. You have to remember everything else has to work with the overclock.

Also if most people made a measure of how often thier cpu's are actually loaded to 100%, I think many would be happy with something less than a world record.
August 9, 2008 5:04:06 AM

In order to achieve 4.0Ghz, an average Q6600 needs to be fed with over 1.6~1.8V of Vcore. On air, that would render the CPU dead within a couple of days, if not hours.

The optimum overclock for Q6600 should be 3.2Ghz. In my case, that was the last stable clock I achieved with minimal Vcore increase before the diminishing returns.

So unless you have exotic cooling, shat 20 dollar bills, and would like to break world record (Tom's was 5.1Ghz), it is definitely not recommended for anyone, just like cjl and Vertigon suggested.
March 23, 2009 7:24:30 AM

Got my q6600 to 3.6 easy.400x9,cpu1.40v bios settings,2.66C1066mhz.Had it on 3.4 no prob and stable,but wanted a little more.Idle 28,34,34,34 on a Zalman cnps97000NT,and a CoolerMaster Cosmos S.Could go more on overclock but no need this thing is FAST,and i plan on having this computer for a while so need it to last.I suggest to get a good mobo,cpu fan,and case with good airflow.

Intel core2quad Q6600 2.4@3.6Ghz
Zalman cnps9700NT 110mm cpu fan
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P mobo AWESOME btw.
OCZ reaperHPC 4gb(2x2gb)DDR2 1066.
EVGA GTX260 core216 Superclocked Ed.
Samsung SpinpointF1 1tbHDD 7200rpm
LG hd/dvd burner/Blu-ray player
CoolerMaster Cosmos S
March 23, 2009 7:43:52 AM

Nice 7 month bump there.
March 23, 2009 8:14:26 PM

Dont expect to run a Q6600 @ 4ghz.

If your lucky enough to reach a stable voltage for this speed ull also realize that you've gone from 2.6 > 3.6 by upping volts by around .3v, then to go from 3.6 > 4 uv added an additional .3v.

It not worth it for the reduced stress on the chip and extra heat

I toyed with it for a long time and as many before me have concluded, 3.6 (400*9) is the real sweet spot for these chips

March 24, 2009 12:15:23 AM

Di, DIE dye!!!!!!
March 24, 2009 1:08:17 AM

I'm currently using a Q6600 with a VID of 1.215 and have benched at 4.0 ghz on air before. The temps were insane and the voltage required was way way way too high for me to be comfortable using 24/7. The temps were approaching 75 C as well... just not worth it. I can do 3.6 ghz very very nicely... due to vdroop I have to pop my bios voltage up by almost .1 volts. I've been considering doing the pencil mod to my 780i, however, to see how much that would help me... Normally, after the vdroop I'm very stable at roughly 1.36- 1.38 volts.

Don't expect a q6600 to hit 4.0 ghz on air. If I were you I'd go with the q8200 - 8300 or AMD's Phenom II line since that seems to be more in your price segment.

I just realised this is an incredibly old bump but I'll beat the dead horse anyway...
INTEL

Q6600 ~ $199.99

Q8200 ~ $169.99
Q8300 ~ $189.99 (Would beat the pants off of a q6600 nowadays.)


Q9400 ~ $229.99
Q9550 ~ $274.99
Q9650 ~ $324.99

Theres also a low wattage version of the Q9550 on newegg for roughly 399.99 at the moment.

AMD

Phenom II x4 940 ~ $225 ( This is comparable to the 45 nm Core 2 line at stock speeds. It over clocks very well too. Probably your best buy for the money at the moment. If you're determined to do some hardcore oc'ing at the moment, Intel would be worth the extra cash.)

Phenom II x4 920 ~ $194
Phenom II x4 810 ~ $175

Hope this helps anyone that might take a glance at this thread.

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