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$1300 for a Q9450 Build Reasonable?

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June 19, 2008 10:35:20 PM

I am wondering if 1300 can get me good parts for a Q9450 build?
I am guessing the best Video card for me is a MSI 8800GT, just to keep anything along those lines
Can anyone give me a good idea of parts for this build for overclocking to 3.2 or above and gaming and video editing and such
June 19, 2008 10:49:31 PM

Raid 0 for editing. Raptors 10.000RPM
GeForce 8800GT sounds good, allthough 8800GS is almost as expensive at that one with better performance.
June 19, 2008 11:47:54 PM

Also check out some reviews for Western Digital's new 640gb drive, it's suppose to be really fast and you can avoid RAID. With the 4850 out now I'd get one of those for ~$200 instead of the GT. Do you have any wish to Crossfire/SLI down the road? If not, look into the lower-end P45 motherboards. Most overclock very well, just decide which features you need/want on the board and work up the model/$ scale until you get all the features you want (RAID, etc).

If you want to OC up to 3.2 get a decent Heatsink like the Xigmatek, or the Thermalright Ultra 120 /w a Noctua 120mm fan (bit more $ but the fan is high static pressure, which is what a good heastink fan should have - as opposed to high CFM). I'd get some MX-2 thermal paste as well, it's non-electric and is usually #1 or #2 on the "coolness" rankings (literally, ha)

At least 4gb of DDR2-800, that will allow you to OC to 3.2 w/o OCing the memory itself. With the price of DDR2, You might want to consider 8gb for your video editing. Just make sure you get a motherboard that support 8gb ;) 

Also you'll want Vista 64 to make sure you can use every bit of memory in your system.

Coolermaster 690 case + a couple extra fans is the way to go. Excellent case, great airflow for OCing and space to hide cables.

If you're just using the one video card, a 610W PC Power and Cooling or 620W Corsair should do the trick. Although personally, for the price of them right now, I'd get a PC Power and Cooling 750W so you have lots of room and better efficiency, and of course less heat in the box with your OC.

Good luck!
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June 20, 2008 12:07:23 AM
June 20, 2008 12:09:47 AM

SHaTTeNJaGeR said:
Raid 0 for editing. Raptors 10.000RPM
GeForce 8800GT sounds good, allthough 8800GS is almost as expensive at that one with better performance.


Raid 0 with raptors is 2 expensive and not worth it for a $1300 build (simply cannot be done efficiently) and the 8800GS is not as good as the 8800GT, but the 4850 is better than both.

Best,

3Ball
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June 20, 2008 12:24:36 AM

Agree with 3Ball, except i'd just get 1 -4850 to start with, then go Xfire if you want an upgrade later
June 20, 2008 12:30:27 AM

dirtmountain said:
Agree with 3Ball, except i'd just get 1 -4850 to start with, then go Xfire if you want an upgrade later


Yea well I was unaware if he needed an OS or not, so to the OP if you need an OS then take down one of the video cards and pick up either one of these that you would prefer, and go ahead and upgrade to the 750w PCP&C just for the longevity and future upgrades that may take more power(I would try to squeeze it in either way if you can). The vista version will use more of your memory, but not as mature and you may run into a few problems with it right now. The XP version will work, but not use all of your memory. Stick with the memory either way. Heck you could get both if you end up dropping a video card and dual boot. If you dont need an OS I would probably stick with them both if you don't upgrade very often. Hope this helps!

750w PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS Vista: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS XP: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Best,

3Ball
June 20, 2008 12:31:05 AM

Two 4850's on a 610W? Even if it is PCP&P isn't that pushing it a little 3Ball, with a Quad in mind? Though I haven't caught any power req review yet of the 4850 though, or I skimmed through them too fast!

Also I still have to say the WD 640gb is the best buy for only $10 more :D  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not that the 500gb will let you down of course, just forcing my two cents upon you!
June 20, 2008 12:36:56 AM

jevon said:
Two 4850's on a 610W? Even if it is PCP&P isn't that pushing it a little 3Ball, with a Quad in mind? Though I haven't caught any power req review yet of the 4850 though, or I skimmed through them too fast!

Also I still have to say the WD 640gb is the best buy for only $10 more :D  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not that the 500gb will let you down of course, just forcing my two cents upon you!


The 610w could easily run that system. Remember that the Q9450 is a 45nm CPU and even when OC'd usually stays below 1.3v even if it does go above it will still be fine. I did originally want the 750w, but it didnt fit into the price range and that was mainly for future upgrades, not the current systems needs. Yea OP that WD would be a good hard drive as well. It is at your discretion. The extra memory will be good for you if you dual boot the OS's or if you do alot of video editing and play many games. I picked the 500gb Seagate because it is a large hard drive and is slightly quicker than most in its size range and price, but the hard drive speed is probably unnoticeable in comparison. Again, I leave this up to you! All are very good suggestions.

Edit: For comparison - My friend has a year and old half system (that I built) running a DS3 mobo, SLI 8800GTX's, E6600 @ 3.4ghz (1.4125v), 4gb memory, three 7200rpm hard drives in an antec 900 on the 610w! It is 24+ hours Orthos stable and has never hit a bump in the road in stability. 4850 Power Requirements are lower than the 8800GTX's!

Best,

3Ball
June 20, 2008 12:42:28 AM

From the specs page of the HD4850

System Requirements 450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
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June 20, 2008 1:15:24 AM



Throw that bolt up kit in your build, or that s1283 won't do crap for cooling for the fact it's too heavy for it's push pin set up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail


Also I find this to be better than Arctic Silver 5

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail


June 20, 2008 4:06:25 AM

I agree about the bracket. Made me feel much better about that heavy cpu cooler hanging off my board like that. Granted with my gigabyte board it was a pain (underside of board has a copper heatspreader) I still managed to make it work and it is rock solid now.
June 20, 2008 11:03:41 AM

Why_Me said:
Throw that bolt up kit in your build, or that s1283 won't do crap for cooling for the fact it's too heavy for it's push pin set up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail


Also I find this to be better than Arctic Silver 5

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail


Great suggestion! I was unaware of the bracket, which makes the cooler much more viable. I never have liked the push pins on my Freezer 7 Pro. I 3rd the idea of getting this along with the CPU cooler. Cant go wrong with either thermal paste OP.

Best,

3Ball
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