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Alright so I had thought that I had made up my mind about which graphics cards to go with, and I thought I had myself convinced that I would be switching to ATI for this graphics card battle, hoping to eventually win the war.
But now, in response to ATI's awesome performing 4850 and 4870 cards each at an all time low price for performance ratio, Nvidia is quickly slashing prices straight across it's entire line up.
The lowest price you can find a GTX280 for is about 470-499.99 (with rebates) and the GTX260 is now 299.00-350.00 depending on the model number and rebates involved. These are actually really good prices as compared to 2 weeks ago. Obviously I'm talking about the 650.00 dollar pricing fiasco. Especially for cards that only offered an average of 35-50% performance improvements over previous generations.
Whats worse is that I am stuck because not even 2 months ago I bought a 790i Ultra board at a whopping 349.99 from EVGA. The board is great and has posted the best results I have ever seen to date on any motherboard as far as overclocking and functionality is concerned, and it runs my q6600 @ 3.6GHZ all day long, everyday.
So my plight is obvious. I bought this 790i Ultra to be ready for the new generation of Nvidia cards. My plan was to buy the GTX280 and SLI them. I am currently running (2) 8800 GT's in SLI and with my overclocks and current settings can hit 19,400+ in 3dmark 06. I can also play every game except Crysis at maxed out settings at 1900X1200 resolution.
I was hoping to see huge gains over this once the reviews for the GTX 280 came out but so far have been less then thrilled. As a matter of fact the pill became even harder to swallow once I saw the pricing upon release. My 8800's were holding me up just fine. Why do I need to switch to GTX 280's ? My 88's in SLI actually perform much better than a single GTX280 in pretty much every benchmark I have seen.
So this begs the question, with the new 790i board money already invested and my entire system already running flawlessly, would it be even plausible to switch sides now? Could I possibly have any real reason to switch to ATI ?
The new Nvidia price cuts are going to keep dropping I can only assume, since ATI really hasn't even released there big boy yet (4850X2 or 4870X2) and the prices of those cards are supposed to be extremely competitive, let alone the fact that they are also supposed to out perform the GTX 280.
Now I am left with feeling like if I move on an Nvidia card right now , in two weeks, maybe the prices will be 50-100 dollars cheaper. Also we still don't know what Nvidia has in the works as it's response to ATI's new super card (X2 series), so buying anything right now seems to be stupid for me.
Should I wait for more price cuts? Should I wait for a manufacture process reduction on the GTX280? Which will possibly run at higher clock rates and cooler temps. Will the 4870X2 stomp the hell out of anything that Nvidia has, and will Nvidia respond with a monster card that will win back the title? Is there a bottoming out point for Nvidia's pricing? Have the prices reached the lowest they will go for the immediate future (3-4 months).
With my investment in an Sli board, that at this point cannot be returned, and the fact that my sytem is working perfectly, with no complaints about the performance of my dual 88's, I believe I have no choice but to wait it out and see what moves the two graphics goliath's make next. Buying 2 GTX 280's right now seems ridiculous for me as the pricing is still horrible, (even with the price cuts and the performance improvement ratio not to my liking over the previous gen cards)and the GTX260's are currently being stomped on by the 4870's
and soon to be big brothers 4850X2 and or 4870X2.
The switch to a crossfire board seems rather inviting where the future of graphics dominance is concerned. Two 4870X2's in crossfire would surely be a beast that Nvidia would have a hard time defeating, and they would actually be cheaper than two current GTX280's and obviously out perform it by a large margin.
I could still feasibly TRI-SLI three 9800 GTX+'s when they come out for much cheaper than the GTX280's or I could also Tri-Sli GTX260's which would still be killer performance for better cost. I am running a 1200 Watt PSU and I believe it could handle it without issue.
The point of this whole thread is basically this, being a gamer I want to have a great performing system, but I also wan't something that is going to handle the games that are released for the next 2-3 years. That being said, my 790i board should have no problem, however my 88's are already showing their age a bit. With so many what if's for the future of graphics dominance floating around right now, it makes it an extremely exciting time, but also a very confusing one for most of us who are trying to decide where to invest our hard earned money.
I have a decision to make indeed, and I want to know some opinions about the current state of affairs from other gamers and enthusiasts out there, please tell me what some of you guys have decided to do about all this, and if you are just going to wait it out and see what happens over the next few months.
The last thing I wanna end up like is the guys that just bought a GTX280 at 650.00 last week and look at newegg this week and see them 150.00 dollars cheaper....Damn..that sucks.
But now, in response to ATI's awesome performing 4850 and 4870 cards each at an all time low price for performance ratio, Nvidia is quickly slashing prices straight across it's entire line up.
The lowest price you can find a GTX280 for is about 470-499.99 (with rebates) and the GTX260 is now 299.00-350.00 depending on the model number and rebates involved. These are actually really good prices as compared to 2 weeks ago. Obviously I'm talking about the 650.00 dollar pricing fiasco. Especially for cards that only offered an average of 35-50% performance improvements over previous generations.
Whats worse is that I am stuck because not even 2 months ago I bought a 790i Ultra board at a whopping 349.99 from EVGA. The board is great and has posted the best results I have ever seen to date on any motherboard as far as overclocking and functionality is concerned, and it runs my q6600 @ 3.6GHZ all day long, everyday.
So my plight is obvious. I bought this 790i Ultra to be ready for the new generation of Nvidia cards. My plan was to buy the GTX280 and SLI them. I am currently running (2) 8800 GT's in SLI and with my overclocks and current settings can hit 19,400+ in 3dmark 06. I can also play every game except Crysis at maxed out settings at 1900X1200 resolution.
I was hoping to see huge gains over this once the reviews for the GTX 280 came out but so far have been less then thrilled. As a matter of fact the pill became even harder to swallow once I saw the pricing upon release. My 8800's were holding me up just fine. Why do I need to switch to GTX 280's ? My 88's in SLI actually perform much better than a single GTX280 in pretty much every benchmark I have seen.
So this begs the question, with the new 790i board money already invested and my entire system already running flawlessly, would it be even plausible to switch sides now? Could I possibly have any real reason to switch to ATI ?
The new Nvidia price cuts are going to keep dropping I can only assume, since ATI really hasn't even released there big boy yet (4850X2 or 4870X2) and the prices of those cards are supposed to be extremely competitive, let alone the fact that they are also supposed to out perform the GTX 280.
Now I am left with feeling like if I move on an Nvidia card right now , in two weeks, maybe the prices will be 50-100 dollars cheaper. Also we still don't know what Nvidia has in the works as it's response to ATI's new super card (X2 series), so buying anything right now seems to be stupid for me.
Should I wait for more price cuts? Should I wait for a manufacture process reduction on the GTX280? Which will possibly run at higher clock rates and cooler temps. Will the 4870X2 stomp the hell out of anything that Nvidia has, and will Nvidia respond with a monster card that will win back the title? Is there a bottoming out point for Nvidia's pricing? Have the prices reached the lowest they will go for the immediate future (3-4 months).
With my investment in an Sli board, that at this point cannot be returned, and the fact that my sytem is working perfectly, with no complaints about the performance of my dual 88's, I believe I have no choice but to wait it out and see what moves the two graphics goliath's make next. Buying 2 GTX 280's right now seems ridiculous for me as the pricing is still horrible, (even with the price cuts and the performance improvement ratio not to my liking over the previous gen cards)and the GTX260's are currently being stomped on by the 4870's
and soon to be big brothers 4850X2 and or 4870X2.
The switch to a crossfire board seems rather inviting where the future of graphics dominance is concerned. Two 4870X2's in crossfire would surely be a beast that Nvidia would have a hard time defeating, and they would actually be cheaper than two current GTX280's and obviously out perform it by a large margin.
I could still feasibly TRI-SLI three 9800 GTX+'s when they come out for much cheaper than the GTX280's or I could also Tri-Sli GTX260's which would still be killer performance for better cost. I am running a 1200 Watt PSU and I believe it could handle it without issue.
The point of this whole thread is basically this, being a gamer I want to have a great performing system, but I also wan't something that is going to handle the games that are released for the next 2-3 years. That being said, my 790i board should have no problem, however my 88's are already showing their age a bit. With so many what if's for the future of graphics dominance floating around right now, it makes it an extremely exciting time, but also a very confusing one for most of us who are trying to decide where to invest our hard earned money.
I have a decision to make indeed, and I want to know some opinions about the current state of affairs from other gamers and enthusiasts out there, please tell me what some of you guys have decided to do about all this, and if you are just going to wait it out and see what happens over the next few months.
The last thing I wanna end up like is the guys that just bought a GTX280 at 650.00 last week and look at newegg this week and see them 150.00 dollars cheaper....Damn..that sucks.
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