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I am trying to figure out if this is even possible. Are there HDTV's
with tuners that can remember the channels programmed for OTA TV and
CATV separately? I only have one F connector on my Insignia TV. I want
to get OTA HDTV and analog cable and combine it into one cable with a
diplexer or switch box. Then I want to be able to switch the input type
between OTA TV and CATV and have the channels be separate.
Any advice on what I should use to combine the 2 coax cables? Diplexer
or splitter?
Also, are there other TV's that keep track of the chanel programming
separately?
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On 14 Sep 2005 19:52:26 -0700 Dave <fosterdave@hotmail.com> wrote:
| I am trying to figure out if this is even possible. Are there HDTV's
| with tuners that can remember the channels programmed for OTA TV and
| CATV separately? I only have one F connector on my Insignia TV. I want
| to get OTA HDTV and analog cable and combine it into one cable with a
| diplexer or switch box. Then I want to be able to switch the input type
| between OTA TV and CATV and have the channels be separate.
The design of a receiver with only one F connector is usually going to
assume only one source is connected.
| Any advice on what I should use to combine the 2 coax cables? Diplexer
| or splitter?
Maybe a separate STB for one of the sources, if you have an A/V input?
| Also, are there other TV's that keep track of the chanel programming
| separately?
If the STB does, you could have it separate that way.
I don't know of TVs that do that, but it would definitely be a plus.
I'd also like features such as saving all audio/video settings on a
per-channel basis.
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Unless you have 2 separate tuners you cannot do this they use the same
frequencies!
If you want to use a VCR or DVD recorder as one tuner and the TV as the
other you can input the VCR/DVD output (to the TV) using S or composite
connectors!!
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On 14 Sep 2005 19:52:26 -0700, "Dave" <fosterdave@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I am trying to figure out if this is even possible. Are there HDTV's
>with tuners that can remember the channels programmed for OTA TV and
>CATV separately? I only have one F connector on my Insignia TV. I want
>to get OTA HDTV and analog cable and combine it into one cable with a
>diplexer or switch box. Then I want to be able to switch the input type
>between OTA TV and CATV and have the channels be separate.
>
>Any advice on what I should use to combine the 2 coax cables? Diplexer
>or splitter?
>
>Also, are there other TV's that keep track of the chanel programming
>separately?
>
Have you looked at the HD TVs with built in digital and analog NTSC
tuners? The ones I've seen have 2 antenna inputs for just what you
are saying - so you can switch between them for analog and digital
sources if you want. I assume the set will remember both the digital
and analog channel settings when switching between tuners.
If you find a set that doesn't have that capability, you can still do
the work around another poster suggested and hook up the analog cable
to a VCR and feed the set with the VCR A/V outs. Another work around
would be a simple 75 ohm A/B switch, if necessary.
Gary E
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You'll need a coax A/B switch to select either of the two sources. For
the tuner you might be able to do a manual channel add but I don't
think most tuners will carry over an OTA channel plan when you switch
to CATV input and vice versa.
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Dave (fosterdave@hotmail.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> I am trying to figure out if this is even possible. Are there HDTV's
> with tuners that can remember the channels programmed for OTA TV and
> CATV separately? I only have one F connector on my Insignia TV. I want
> to get OTA HDTV and analog cable and combine it into one cable with a
> diplexer or switch box. Then I want to be able to switch the input type
> between OTA TV and CATV and have the channels be separate.
This won't work with just one antenna input. When you switch from OTA
to cable, every TV (or STB) requires a re-scan. Every HDTV with more than
one antenna input allows separate channel memory, though.
The MyHD PCI cards not only have two inputs, but allow cable and OTA on
the same wire at the same time (obviously you have to make sure the
channels don't overlap).
> Any advice on what I should use to combine the 2 coax cables? Diplexer
> or splitter?
Diplexers are frequency-based filters...they cut off (or combine) signals
from below a certain frequency with those above a certain frequency.
Unless you have a very odd cable system, the OTA frequencies will overlap
with some of the cable channels, so you couldn't use a diplexer even if
you could find one set for a frequency other than 1GHz (which is the end
of cable and the beginning of satellite).
A *combiner* (which many splitters act like when installed in reverse)
wouldn't work because of the same overlapping frequencies issue.
You need an A/B switch of some kind, but the suggestion of feeding cable
signals through your VCR to a video input is the best idea.
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"Lorenzo" <Lorenzo.1veuzz@satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
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>
> You'll need a coax A/B switch to select either of the two sources. For
> the tuner you might be able to do a manual channel add but I don't
> think most tuners will carry over an OTA channel plan when you switch
> to CATV input and vice versa.
>
>
> --
> Lorenzo, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US >
That won't work, and you can't "cheat" either. If you have a very old TV
with a fine tuning control, you could switch to cable channel 65, and be
able to tune in UHF channel 14. Modern TVs won't do that. Problem is that
UHF station 14+ are offset from cable channels 65+ by 2 MHz, or 1/3 of a
channel.
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In article <1126752746.215169.157260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <fosterdave@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to figure out if this is even possible. Are there HDTV's
> with tuners that can remember the channels programmed for OTA TV and
> CATV separately?
My Sanyo does exactly that.
It has two antenna inputs in the back: one for ATSC (digital OTA), one
for NTSC (where I have my analog cable plugged in).
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Thanks all for your thoughtful and enlightening replies. I bought this
Insignia HDTV because it was not expensive but still had an ATSC tuner.
Now I see the value of having multiple antenna inputs.
Sounds like what I will want to do is get an HD DVR, plug the antenna
into that, and output the DVR into the HDTV's component input. Then I
could plug the analog CATV into the HDTV's antenna input.
Are there any good HD DVR's available today? I hear that TiVo isn't
coming out with theirs until next spring. I saw the NTSC TiVo's at
BestBuy for $50. So something must be brewing. Anyone have any
experience with the Sony, Zenith, or LG ATSC DVR's?
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"Dave" <fosterdave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks all for your thoughtful and enlightening replies. I bought this
> Insignia HDTV because it was not expensive but still had an ATSC tuner.
> Now I see the value of having multiple antenna inputs.
>
> Sounds like what I will want to do is get an HD DVR, plug the antenna
> into that, and output the DVR into the HDTV's component input. Then I
> could plug the analog CATV into the HDTV's antenna input.
>
> Are there any good HD DVR's available today? I hear that TiVo isn't
> coming out with theirs until next spring. I saw the NTSC TiVo's at
> BestBuy for $50. So something must be brewing. Anyone have any
> experience with the Sony, Zenith, or LG ATSC DVR's?
>
>
I've got an LG LST-3410A and love it, but they are kind of hard to find, and
some older versions were buggy, especially the TV Guide
(http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=337424). The one big
advantage of the LG over the Sony, at least for me, is the fact that the LG
has firewire, which I use with D-VHS for archiving HD material. The Sony
DVRs don't have firewire.
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