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well i am trying to add a WD 320gb HD to the computer and am having issues. The computer right now has a 80gb on sata0 and I am adding the 320 to sata1 and moved the cd/dvd to sata4 port. All are turned on in the bios but it is not seeing it. if i look under sata1 in the bios it shows a HD but show size as un determined and when i boot into XP it does not see it at all. I have search all the internet for all i can find out and I am not having any luck. It could be my key words i am searching with but no luck so far. I have upgraded the bios to the latest 2.4.0.

any help would be great appreciated.

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i had the same problem with the same e520 desktop, i had the 80gb and added a 500gb, first thing i would check is the setting on the drive, e520's will not see sata II drives, you have to use the proper jumper to set the drive to run the older sata, but if your new drive is not sata II then try putting everything back the way it orignally was and then add the new hdd to a new sata connector on the board, in bios it is tricky, you have to make sure that ONLY the devices that are hooked up are enabled, i had this problem whare it kept giving me errors on boot, also make sure you have all the currect sata's enabled

and this may be a dumb answer, but try formatting the drive, if it is "un determined" that would mean it has not been formatted and it not appearing in windows would suggest it has not been assigned a drive letter witch is done upon format

1 more thing and i cant bug enough, make sure the right sata port is being used, i spent hours tring to figure it out and it ended up being that one drive number on the board looked like another for example 4 looked like 1 (poor printing), if i still had my e520 i would walk you step by step but i dont and its hard to remember details


Message edited by furious_cruzer on 10-19-2009 at 01:59:11 AM
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i downloaded something from WD site to format it but it never let me do it. what would you suggest to use to format it?

Reply to calimove

what i did was rearrange the sata ports. sata0=drive one, sata1= 320gb hd i am trying to add, sata 4=cd/dvd

Reply to calimove

will if everything is enabled and you can see the new drive in bios, go into disk management, it shows all drives reguardless, you can format it right in there

right click on "computer" click "manage" dubble click "storage"dubble click "disk management"

from there, select your drive and format, let me know if that works

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calimove wrote :

what i did was rearrange the sata ports. sata0=drive one, sata1= 320gb hd i am trying to add, sata 4=cd/dvd



my e520 shows that i had 6 sata ports but only 4 could be used, make sure your using the right numbers

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it does not show up under the disk manager...see this hd was used in a dvr. i pulled it out and am trying to figure out how to use it for a windows computer. from what i have read the dvr was linux based but i was thinking if i could just format it and recreate the partition it would work.

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are you in disk manager or disk management?

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Reply to furious_cruzer

when at the desktop i right clicked on my computer and doing to the disk management there

Reply to calimove

it only shows the existing c: with windows on it and te cd/dvd drive

Reply to calimove

please confirm that is looks like this

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ok then its a hardware issue, worst case its no good for pc install, tripple check any jumpers on the drive and make sure you are enabling the right sata, thats the best i can help with, i have never installed a drive that was intended only for use with dvr

like i said before, the newer satas are sataII and it will not run on that pc, there is a jumper setting for that to make it run the old sata, might be running slave when it needs to be master or vice versa

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google the drives model number and find out if it is sata or sata II

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Reply to furious_cruzer

it is a WD cavier SE HD...what would you use to attempt to format it and see if this helps my cause

Reply to calimove

just like i thought, it is SATA II, you HAVE to jump it to run on SATA, SATA runs at 150mbs and SATA II runs 300mbs

i believe it is pins 5 and 6

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yes, it is pins 5 and 6, your pc will use the hdd if it is not jumped back to old sata

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Reply to furious_cruzer

jump the drive and your problem will be solved

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Reply to furious_cruzer

very interesting stuff...do you think after a reboot it will show up in windows?

Reply to calimove

yes it will

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Reply to furious_cruzer

jump the drive, reboot and get back to me

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Reply to furious_cruzer

like i said in the begining, i had this same problem and it was that i had to jump it, i was running 80gb sata and installed a western digital 500gb sataII drive, i did the jump and it worked

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Reply to furious_cruzer

jumper didnt get it to show up in windows...

Reply to calimove

you sure you jumped 5 and 6? is the correct sata cable enabled? check disk management again, disk management will wvwn find hidden drives


Message edited by furious_cruzer on 10-19-2009 at 03:27:34 AM
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man it should not be this tough to install a second HD...

Reply to calimove

what does disk managment say?

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calimove wrote :

man it should not be this tough to install a second HD...



thats right, it shouldent be, but sometimes it is, thats why computer techs charge soo much money, lol

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Reply to furious_cruzer

same as before...all it shows is the 80 gb and the cd drive...jumper is in correct spot

Reply to calimove

something i notice is on boot it says hd controlled by raid but doesnt have a label name. where as the 80 gb has a name

Reply to calimove

re check your sata cable, if it helps, only have your 80gb connected to sata0 and the 320gb to sata1, then in bios only enable sata0 and sata1

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calimove wrote :

something i notice is on boot it says hd controlled by raid but doesnt have a label name. where as the 80 gb has a name



thats right, needs to be formatted, once you format, it will assign a lable to it

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Reply to furious_cruzer

so how would you go about formatting it...windows cd???? what ya think oh godly one!!!

Reply to calimove

umm, not sure, the only way i do it is threw disk managment,

you could try this trick, go to as if you were going to reinstall windows, (incert disk, power off, power on, press key to boot from cd)

let it copy files, once it gets to the point whare it asks to choose a drive, select the new drive and then deliete any partitons from that drive and create new partition (whole drive) it will ask to format, let me know if that works

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Reply to furious_cruzer

but reguardless, pins 5 and 6 have to be jumped

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Reply to furious_cruzer

after you format (NFTS) and it starts installing windows, eject the dick, force the pc to shut down by holding the power putton down

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Reply to furious_cruzer

well i will give that a shot...thanks for your help and i will send ya a message with the results...thanks for all

Reply to calimove

but be warned, it is tricky, DO NOT TOUCH DRIVE C:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply to furious_cruzer

i am thinking about unplugging drive c: to make sure nothing goes wrong

Reply to calimove

or any drive smaller the 1gb

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calimove wrote :

i am thinking about unplugging drive c: to make sure nothing goes wrong



perfect, do that and put the new drive in its place, just hope the that raid drivers will work

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all that will be plugged into the MB will be the 320 on sata1 and the cd/dvd drive on sata4

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Message edited by calimove on 10-19-2009 at 03:55:09 AM
Reply to calimove

you might have to go into bios prior to installing and change the settings of the new drive to compatible

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calimove wrote :

all that will be plugged into the MB will be the 320 on sata1 and the cd/dvd drive on sata4



put the new drive in sata0

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Reply to furious_cruzer

are there any raid driver you think i need to install for the HD

Reply to calimove

there will be, i had trubble installing xp when i first got my e520 because the disk i was using didnt have the raid driver so i installed vista witch did, but then found out that i didnt need them cause you can go into bios and change the setting of the drive to compatible, do that first before setup, it will make things easier

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Reply to furious_cruzer

you know what, do that anyway, change the setting and then boot up with the 80gb, see if it works,

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