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June 22, 2008 9:36:23 AM

Hey guys.

I'm in need of some advise for a build I desperatly need after 5 years.

I need a new machine, and i have a budget of about $1000.00. (the budget can be flexed if needed)

This is what I've gotton so far.

CPU = http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Ram = http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Mobo = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Burner = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Recap:

Q9450 = $300.00
4-8 gigs of corsair dominator ram = $100.00
seagate 500 gig 32 meg cache drive = $100.00
samsung 22x burner = $30.00
evga 750i ftw edition motherboard = $190.00
evga 9800gtx video card = $200.00
silverstone 70A 850 watt PSU = $190.00
CPU cooler???
Case???

Total = $1110.00


Now i'm not sure if what i want to build is the best use of my money. I'm already over budget a bit and i would prefer to spend 1k or less with tax.

I really only play games like crysis, AOC, oblivion, quake 3 etc etc.. I will be playing far cry 2 in the near future and darkfall. I have a few questions.....

Would 8 gigs of ram be prefered to futureproofing?
Would 2 sets of dominator ram with fans fit with x2 fans?
Is this PSU good enough for future sli with x2 280s?
All the benchs say this seagate drive is right under the Spinpoint 1k drives... yet they get bad reviews.. Is this the right choice?
Is this mobo a good idea vs the 780i? (This board default supports 1066 ram.. which i'm getting.)
Is my videocard a good choice vs the 260 and 280? (Nvidia prefered)
What cpu cooler is good? I have a Zerotherm OC copper one i could use.....
Any good cheap cases out there?
I will be OCing the CPU to 4ghz. I need a Cooler that can handle it.

I'm sorry for all the neb questions, but I need some advice so i don't blow my money stupidly. Please help!!


P.S> This is a gaming only rig, i'll be browing the web or downloading on another machine. This will be only for gaming.

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June 22, 2008 11:18:08 AM

hmm.... you could, were you to try to stay on budget, go with an e8400, and i'm not sure you'd get that q9450 to 4 ghz, while e8400 probably would, in addition, if you aren't going with sli NOW, i would just go with a decent intel mobo, such as a p35 chipset, or maybe if you wait a little while, a p45
June 22, 2008 12:01:50 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 (89.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, cUL, CE, CB, TUV - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99
MSI P45 Neo3-FR LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.00 ($79.00 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate)
CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

Total
$969.89
$919.89 w/mail in rebates

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

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June 22, 2008 12:35:20 PM

^ There you go, some good advice here.
You don't "need" a quad core to play games now or anytime soon. Buy the 8400 now, then in a couple of years when more games can actually use the quad, upgrade.
June 22, 2008 1:02:49 PM

+1 for Why_Me
Very good advise, that would be a great system. Although I would change the HDD to the 7200.11. I have both in my system now and the 7200.11 is much quieter and faster than the 7200.10. Definitely worth the extra money.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also to the OP, do you live in New York State? as of June 1 Newegg has started charging sales tax for orders shipped to NYS. Due to this I have stopped ordering from Newegg and order from elsewhere now but when your not ordering from Newegg you have to really look around for the best price. Tiger Direct is good for some stuff (I just bought a laptop from them) but they attract you with a low price on one thing and everything else is overpriced. Zipzoomfly is where I've started getting most of my stuff from and their prices are pretty good.
June 22, 2008 6:12:11 PM

Well, first off, I want to say thank you to everyone for helping.

I have a few concerns however. See, i'm a lifetime warrenty kinda guy. Evga mobos are the only one with lifetime warrenties. Thats why i stay with them. ALso, I have had problems with msi in the past, are they really good now? Is the p45 really that much better than the 750i?

Why_Me, the ram you linked is the same price as my dominator, and i really want 1066 ram.

How does artic silver 5 compare to mx-2?

WIll that 610watt PSU be enough for sli down the road?

I noticed that the rilfe cpu cooler has no fan and is not copper. I always thought copper = better? I currently have a zero therm copper cpu cooler that will work for 775 boards. (not sure if i should use it)

Are there any PSU's with lifetime warrenties?
June 22, 2008 6:13:23 PM

Oh, i forgot a few things.

To nimble, i live in california.

And i wanted to thank everyone for helping me decide on what to do.
June 22, 2008 6:27:01 PM

For another choice in quality PSUs, look at PC Power and Cooling as well.
June 22, 2008 8:42:52 PM

wickedsnow said:
Well, first off, I want to say thank you to everyone for helping.

I have a few concerns however. See, i'm a lifetime warrenty kinda guy. Evga mobos are the only one with lifetime warrenties. Thats why i stay with them. ALso, I have had problems with msi in the past, are they really good now? Is the p45 really that much better than the 750i?

Why_Me, the ram you linked is the same price as my dominator, and i really want 1066 ram.

How does artic silver 5 compare to mx-2?

WIll that 610watt PSU be enough for sli down the road?

I noticed that the rilfe cpu cooler has no fan and is not copper. I always thought copper = better? I currently have a zero therm copper cpu cooler that will work for 775 boards. (not sure if i should use it)

Are there any PSU's with lifetime warrenties?


P45 is much much better than the 750, MSI is ok but I would suggest the Asus P5Q

Why?

AS5 is better

Yes

Design is more important than material used. The Rifle cooler is good and inexpensive but your Zero Therm should be fine.

Not to my knowledge, I think the longest warranty on a PSU is PC Power & Cooling @ 5yrs

Newegg charges sales tax in California as well so you might be able to spend less buying elsewhere
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