AMD new processors

1. i like to know when exactly AMD is going to launch its new 45nm processors??

and

2. im going to build a new system (generally for gaming) and i ALWAYS LOVED to have an AMD processor!

BUT i believe (at least for now) i have to choose between intel e8600 or q9450 processors (+ Gigabyte ep35-ds4p35 mobo, asus hd4870, 2x2gb corsair ddr2-1066.....)

do u think that AMD's new processors are going to make a huge difference??
do u think that i should wait til that day?!!

(and i have to say that im not going to oc anything!! )

45nm k10 would save your electricity bill but only a little better than 65nm's at the same frequence

So far it looks like 45nm Deneb will be worthwhile only if it is overclocked or the builder realizes that he is building a budget quad core system.Faster Denebs will most likely come out though and this may change the situation.

However there is rumor of a Dual CPU motherboard enthusiast Deneb system and if it come to fruition that it's true, a possibility stands that one could build a system with 2 -$250 or so Denebs and a $300 or so Dual CPU motherboard and be able to possibly have a more powerful system than the upcoming high end $999 3.2 Ghz Intel Nehalem CPU and its $300 or so motherboard.

But this is still very much a rumor so far and I wouldn't count on it.
Still we could be surprised.

Yes I think that it would be the only thing that would capture a large marketshare of the performance enthusiast crowd or those desiring a super high end system for a very inexpensive price.Considering the low TDP of the Deneb (Phenom FX) it seems quite possible that this rumor could be true.
I too would rather spend only $500 on 2 CPU's than $999 on one high end CPU.
However one would have to have 2 performance heat sinks on the system.

I think that such a system would be AMD's only real chance at doing extremely well against Intel other than its good performing graphics card business.

thanks for ur replies