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Hey Guys,

I am looking for a kick a$$ lcd monitor. I want full hd , hdmi 1.3 if available , hdcp and i want good color accuracy and response time i wanna games but i play fps and i need a really fast lcd. no tn monitors plz as ive read they are lower grade. thank you guys

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Here you go.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824001278

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Reply to njalterio

That's a TN, and it isn't full HD.

The Dell 2408WFP ultrasharp is quite nice - it has some input lag (~20-30ms IIRC), but the colors are stunning and it's 1920x1200 of S-PVA goodness. See if you can find one to try - I've gamed on one, and I didn't notice any lag, but if you're extremely picky, it is possible that you might care.

Also, it has 2 DVIs, VGA, HDMI, S-video, component, and displayport inputs.

Reply to cjl

Oh it is a TN? How can you tell if it is a TN or not?

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Reply to njalterio

The viewing angle is a dead giveaway. Anything less than 175/175 degrees is almost assuredly a TN. For comparison, look at the Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP (Actually, it's on sale for a price that isn't half bad right now...) that I mentioned earlier. Notice the viewing angle in the tech specs. If it is 178/178, like the Dell is, it's either S-PVA, or S-IPS, as TN's are bad off axis (all laptop screens are TN for example - notice how they look strange if you look at them from the side, or especially from the bottom).

Also, as far as I know, all 22" monitors are TN. If you want 1680x1050 in a non-TN, go for a 20" widescreen, and if you want bigger, 24" is the next step up in S-PVA. 30's are pretty much all IPS IIRC.

Message edited by cjl on 07-11-2008 at 08:32:37 AM

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What about this one?

http://www.shop.bt.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=50D2

Reply to gonesy

Very likely TN. The viewing angle is 160/160, and the response time is 2ms, both of which are typical for a TN, but very atypical for an IPS or PVA.

As I said, look for 175+/175+ for the viewing angle, and also typically >5ms response time for a PVA or IPS. The fastest PVA's I know of are around 6-8ms, and most are slower still.

Reply to cjl

TN gives you the best response times... I got a benq g2400w... and I currently have my xbox 360 connected to t... all I have to do to change inputs is hit a button... not hard... and it looks great... no ghosting AT ALL

Reply to thogrom

TN does give you the best response times. It is the worst for color accuracy and viewing angle though. If you see a TN and PVA next to each other, you can see what I mean - there is absolutely no comparison. IPS is stunning too.

Message edited by cjl on 07-15-2008 at 11:40:35 PM

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cjl I completely agree...

but my monitor has average color representation... and looks great with games and movies... also mine actually has REALLY good angle viewing... except when looking almost directly up at it... then everything is green lol

Reply to thogrom

22" LCD monitors that uses S-PVA panels:

Lenovo ThinkVision L220x (1920 x 1200 resolution) = ~ $450

Eizo FlezScan S2201WE = ~ $650
Eizo FlezScan S2231WE = ~ $775
Eizo ColorEdge CG222W = ~ $1,400
Eizo ColorEdge CG221 = ~ $5,000

Samsung SyncMaster 2263PW = TBA Monitor is not available yet.

To get "full HD" you will need to go with monitor with 1920 x 1200 resolution; meaning a 24" LCD. The only exception is the 22" Lenovo ThinkVision.

Using Newegg.com as an example, any 24" LCD monitor selling for less than $600 uses a TN. Unless of course there is a sale or a rebate is involved. If you are not will to pony up at least $600 for a 24" monitor, then you will need to settle on a monitor using a TN panel. Or you can buy the 22" Lenovo ThinkVision which will give you "full" HD because the resolution is 1920 x 1200.

Currently, the least expensive 24" S-PVA monitor on Newegg.com is the HP LP2465 Carbonite-Silver:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824176059

With the $80 rebate (assume you get it) it is $530 before shipping and tax charges. Rebate expires July 31.

All 24" non-TN panel LCD monitors have a response time of 6ms or slower.

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Actually there is a 24" S-PVA panel selling for $500, but it's outta stock until August 11th; DoubleSight DS-245W:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824185005

Don't know the brand though.

The Dell 2408WFP ultrasharp is on sale right now from Dell for $600 - that one is a VERY nice quality S-PVA.

Reply to cjl

didn't read all of the post, but was attracted by the title.

i put a new system together a month ago and my new monitor is a gateway xhd3000. it's amazing in every way. it upconverts to 1600p. i love gaming on 2560x1600. bioshock has been great fun with full resolution and everything else on high. i turned the settings to 1920x1200 for a lan party a week ago and the monitor converts it up to 1600p so i didn't really see any difference. same with playing guild wars last night (except the picture got bigger, the items, characters etc. in it)

serves as my hd tv as well though i haven't been able to figure out what tuner card to buy yet. i have a blue ray drive and they look amazing on it. i don't have anything to compare it to, but through reviews etc., my understanding is that the difference between 1080p and 1600p is easy to see. likely in the eye of the beholder.

Reply to axlrose

The difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 is instantly obvious, but a good 30" is quite a bit more expensive than a 24 incher, and the 24" monitors are still quite good.

Reply to cjl

this is true. i believe the xhd3000 is 1699, but i got it for 1499 with free shipping.

still a lot of money, but my rational was that it was our first hd tv and i put a blue ray drive with the new build. i'd easily pay 1499 for a new hdtv and i was going to build a computer anyway, so i feel like a saved money by killing two birds with one stone. kind of depends on what you have now. i was moving up from a 17" crt from '98 so that was part of the deal for me as well.

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