Look, I really like what w1zzards done, love TPU too, but look at my comment on his review in the comments about it. If youll notice, and Ive already said this, and you need to understand this, as it doesnt do this card justice. At lower res, you need MORE eye candy not LESS. Look again at your links, at the 16x10 res, he uses 4xAA and 16xAF, its not 25x16 or even higher res really that these cards are superior, its using higher filters, or 4xAA and 16xAF, just like I said in my comments about the review, and here^. When used, they pull ahead. So, in essence, youre willing to tell me that the 3xxx series with no AA which is on par with the G80 or G90 is legit?By saying what youre saying is discrediting. Ill just say this, using higher AA, or greater eyecandy, these cards are superior to ULTRA,8800GTX and 9800GTX, and will only improve over time with what we currently have, and will see a greater dominance over the cards I mentioned. At 16x10 4xAA and 16xAF the 4850 owns the 8800GTX, and is even more impressive using 8xAA. Recheck your links.