Can XP run DX10?

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Profile: stranger
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Hi
 
I was wondering if XP32 or XP64 can run DX10.....looked in to it but got alot of mixed signals
 
does someone know :-)

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No. Microsoft is trying to use DX10 to try to make you upgrade to Vista.

 

Some people tried to hack it for XP, but it wasn't stable.


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No it can not, Microsoft says it is integrated into vista and can not be ported over to XP. There are users trying to get it working. So far there is not much success. Since vista also uses a different driver model this may be why DX10 was unable to be ported over to XP.
 
If you want DX10, you need vista(at least for now).
 
Please note there are very few games that deliver acceptable performance in DX 10 anyway, so if you are not ready for vista, just wait it out. Drivers for vista get better every single day.


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does that mean that performance will improve in vista as new drivers develope so that you can run higher settings with the same graphic card when you're gaming

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in theory... but in reality no

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That was the hope, but until game developers learn to harness the power to use unified sharers(unified shaders can do Vertex or Pixel shading, before they had to be separate units so a game that used one did not use the other, this way they can ALL be one or the other or any number of each) better the performance is actually worse with the exception to a few games.

 

The game assasins creed actually ran better by using DirectX 10.1, but since it was a Nvidia "The way its meant to be played" game and Nvidia does not support DX 10.1(ATI does) the company actually removed the feature and gimped the games performance.

 

The potential is there, developers just need to use it. DX9 was the same when it was released

 

For now tho DX 10 is slower on most games.


Message edited by nukemaster on 07-13-2008 at 12:46:21 AM

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ok thanks for the info :-)

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DX10 was a pretty good way to poke and prod enthusiasts to adopt Vista. Everything was supposed to look better... run faster... and so on. Does it? Nope. Does Microsoft care? Nope. They made it. You buy it. It's really that simple to boys in Redmond.

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rodney_ws wrote :

DX10 was a pretty good way to poke and prod enthusiasts to adopt Vista. Everything was supposed to look better... run faster... and so on. Does it? Nope. Does Microsoft care? Nope. They made it. You buy it. It's really that simple to boys in Redmond.


It should, eventually. Not sure if you remember this, but it was a similar situation back in the directx8-9 transition.


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ok no dx10 in xp....damn

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I don't really buy that Microsoft cannot port Directx 10 over to XP. Its all a scheme to get us to use Vista.
 
Who cares about Directx 10. All it does is eat more of your GPU power = lower FPS which isn't worth it.

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John Vuong wrote :

I don't really buy that Microsoft cannot port Directx 10 over to XP. Its all a scheme to get us to use Vista.
 
Who cares about Directx 10. All it does is eat more of your GPU power = lower FPS which isn't worth it.


 
Not that M$ cant, but they dont want to as noone vould buy their crapy Vista if DX10 exist in XP as well.
 
Direct X is just api betwen game and OS+HW and as this it can be ported to XP.

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Bah - more fud.
 
All the people complaining about Vista were those that complained about XP who also complained about Windows 95. Actually, probably not the latter because most of them weren't even born then. Or maybe they were, and there was some serious neonatal Windows 95 bashing going on in nursey.

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The_Abyss wrote :

Bah - more fud.
 
All the people complaining about Vista were those that complained about XP who also complained about Windows 95. Actually, probably not the latter because most of them weren't even born then. Or maybe they were, and there was some serious neonatal Windows 95 bashing going on in nursey.


 
I was born long time before w95, and its not only users complaining about Vista, companies as well.
My company even encourage ppl work on linux and have no plans emplement Vista in any way once XP stop to be supported.

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For what i do, vista performs as well as XP. When super fetch pre loads(it learns what i use often) stuff, loads are actually faster. Game performance has caught up in most titles.
 
98 to XP was far worse  then XP to Vista SP1 to be honest.


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Agreed. After over a year with Vista now, I have to say that all the moaning doesn't make any sense to me. Yes, there were a few bugs initially (nothing horrible though), but most of them have been fixed by now. Everything I have runs perfectly, and I haven't found anything that completely refuses to run. Speed isn't a problem either.

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Even before SP1, Vista still performed better than XP SP2 on heavy applications on quad core systems with 4gb or more of ram. It handles multithreading better, and high ram usage doesn't harm performance as long as you have enough. The perceived slowdown in Vista are only for people who use lower duals and single cores, and more importantly, ran out of ram and had to use page file off hdd.


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so no dx10 on xp......

 

well microsoft is about to bust out DX11 !!!!  

 

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/604 [...] month.html

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Message edited by bctaaka on 07-15-2008 at 01:16:09 AM
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bctaaka wrote :

so no dx10 on xp......

 

well microsoft is about to bust out DX11 !!!!  

 

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/604 [...] month.html


Unforunately, you can be sure they won't make DX11 available to XP either. :p


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http://www.gamespot.com/features/6182140/index.htm
That has many different screenshots (same ones) in crysis comparing dx10 in vista and dx10 in xp, and dx9 in xp. The graphics look great in all, dx10 only has a bit better shaders (unnoticable if not mentioned) and a bit better anistropic filerting cause you can see textures at great distances in dx10. Also dx10 with xp is highly unstable, I tryed it and I had to remove my hardrive from the computer, stick it into my friends and format it completey cuase dx10 screwed it over completely lol.

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Very High is just a little mod to the game to let is use the full textures(its not DX 10 at all. The developers just locked out textures on the DX9 settings.). No point in trying to make DX 10 work on XP.


Message edited by nukemaster on 07-15-2008 at 07:14:54 AM

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