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Final build Budget:1400 Need final tips before buy!

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June 26, 2008 6:29:46 PM
June 26, 2008 6:45:21 PM

how odd. you have the exact same things on your wishlist as I have on mine.

try making it a public wishlist.
June 26, 2008 8:38:26 PM

hmmm any tips?
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June 26, 2008 8:41:04 PM

If we could see your build I'm sure people would give you tips. The link you gave doesn't work.
June 26, 2008 9:00:26 PM

oops. Alright ill list out the parts.
June 26, 2008 10:20:13 PM

BUMP plz
June 27, 2008 12:30:22 AM

Instead of the 900, get the Tempest

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=nzxt%2btempest

Looks like a 900 wannabe, but this is much better, cable management is not a pain, fans are quiet, it accepts E-ATX mobos so you have much more space, and air filters. Tradeoff is the fans don't have speed control.

BTW thanks for showing me this, but I have to include monitor with my purchase, as I only have one and its very crappy. :D 

June 27, 2008 12:38:41 AM

I see a few things I would change on that build. The OS and RAM is the first thing that caught my eye.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

Now get 4 gigs of RAM (2x2)

Use the money you save on the PSU

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-s... $109.99 Price After Rebate(s): $99.99
Shipping: FREE
Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply - CMPSU-750TX

Cheaper than the Asus..... --->

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM


Better case in my opinion, for the fact it has better airflow and extra room for Crossfire / SLI set up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

If your not going to do extreme overclocking, and your looking for a great heatsink, this one is worth looking at, and it fits most Asus mobo's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99 ($14.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail



June 27, 2008 12:45:32 AM

I am gonna overclock the hell out the CPU so ill stick with the current one. But for some reason I don't like the look of the 690 seems a bit boring. Thanks for the PSU link I also realized that the 900 was on sale there. And I don't get why 64 bit is so good.. Supports really little apps.
June 27, 2008 12:53:59 AM

sogangsta said:
I am gonna overclock the hell out the CPU so ill stick with the current one. But for some reason I don't like the look of the 690 seems a bit boring. Thanks for the PSU link I also realized that the 900 was on sale there. And I don't get why 64 bit is so good.. Supports really little apps.


64 bit reads all 4 gigs of memory... 2 gigs of memory was the norm with XP 32...but that was when AMD was the thing, and COD4 hadn't even come out yet.

For 2008 and beyond, Vista 64 and 2x2 gigs is the norm, especially if you plan on playing anything other than flash games. :) 
June 27, 2008 1:00:07 AM

Will 64 bit support 32 bit programs?
June 27, 2008 1:35:16 AM

sogangsta said:
Will 64 bit support 32 bit programs?


Yep, it supports both 32 bit, and 64 bit. :) 
June 27, 2008 1:43:41 AM

Well, I should consider 64 then.
June 27, 2008 2:06:41 AM

sogangsta said:
Well, I should consider 64 then.


If your building a gaming rig, there's nothing to even consider. 64 bit Vista is the norm for many reasons, #1 being that it utilzes all 4 gigs of memory. Memory becomes a factor if your going to play newer games.
June 27, 2008 4:05:00 AM

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June 27, 2008 4:38:26 AM

$10 for zip ties????
try the dollar store

I didn't even know they still made desktop 80gig HDDs anymore. just partition your big drive.

do you need a 6' monitor cable? if not just use the one that came with the monitor.
June 27, 2008 4:40:32 AM

well Currently, I dont have a DVI cable. Alright, ill just partition my drive. But when I reinstall window when I have to, will it erase the partition ot the whole drive?
June 27, 2008 4:54:34 AM

Packaging
Package Contents H487F512P
Driver Disk
User's Manual
HDTV Cable
DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
DVI to HDMI Adapter
CrossFire Bridge
S-Video to Composite Adapter
Screw Driver

You do not need the DVI cable. Your card comes with one. Unless you plan to use a 2560x1600 monitor.
June 27, 2008 4:54:55 AM

Your card comes with one, check the specifications.
June 27, 2008 4:56:47 AM

Is hdtv cable it?
June 27, 2008 7:20:38 AM

get vista 32-bit ultimate instead.

your choices look good, i have other personal preferences, but the parts match up well and none is a weak link.

good list.
June 27, 2008 7:33:02 AM

resonance451 said:
get vista 32-bit ultimate instead.

your choices look good, i have other personal preferences, but the parts match up well and none is a weak link.

good list.


Why would you recommend Vista 32 when it doesn't even read 4 full gigs of memory? Please explain that post of yours, I would love to see your answer on this one. :ange: 
June 27, 2008 7:42:17 AM

Sarcasm is noted.

Vista 32 recognizes 4gb ram, and can use 3.5gb, the majority of the RAM he's interested in purchasing. 64 bit OS has a much larger footprint, so anything less than 8gb would be foolish, though it wouldn't matter because many programs are incompatible with 64-bit in part due to driver issues.

So, the 32-bit system with all the support and reading most of the ram he purchased is the wiser option. clear enough for you?
June 27, 2008 2:36:19 PM

what programs run on Vista32 that dont run on Vista64? I haven't come across any yet apart from drivers, and most (all the ones I've needed) drivers are availiable for both versions.

if your looking for an OS that has a smaller footprint, stick with XP. if you want an OS that will be the primary OS in the future and will allow additinoal memory expansions, get Vista64. Vista32 is a half assed comprimise
June 27, 2008 5:07:15 PM

Whats the difference between the q6600 and the Q9450? I heard that the q9450 doesn't overclock as good as the q6600. Does it really matter if it is built on a 45nm and it uses less energy? I am planning to overclock.
June 27, 2008 6:19:48 PM

bump need question answered plz.
June 27, 2008 9:14:17 PM

Also, Should I get the NZXT tempest or the 900?
June 28, 2008 4:01:06 AM

Quoted from another post I made today.
"The q9450 may not reach the same maximum (mhz) speeds as the q6600, but clock for clock it performs better due to the micro-architecture differences in the 65nm and 45nm fabrication if I recall correctly. Though its not much, I know for certain the q9300 has a 7% average efficiency gain over the q6600 at the same clock speeds(even with its crippled cache); I imagine its around the same with the q9450 dependent on how much cache is utilized."

About the case...You really shouldn't limit yourself to those two cases, do some more research and find things on your own besides the same common recommendations of the sheep.

What resolution monitor are you going to be using, you might really only need a 4850. What in your system is going to need a 750w powersupply? Why are you getting an X38 board over a P45? Are you going to CF later? If so, stick with the 750w psu. Why are you getting G.Skill ram if you're going to overclock your processor?
June 28, 2008 4:06:07 AM

Yes, I am planning to Xfire 2 4870's. Also, the monitor is 22" at 1680 x 1050.

What ram do you recommend?

I'm changing the case to 900. Just a personal preference.
June 28, 2008 4:44:11 AM

You aren't going to need that sort of graphic's power for a 22" monitor ffs...but if you insist....an X38 motherboard is perfect for that. You're going to have one hell of a cooling problem with those cards in crossfire. A guy at the futuremark forum already showed this to me.

I recommend Crucial Ballistix as I've had great overclocking experiences with it. DDR2-800. I've heard great things about Corsair Dominators for overclocking too though I personally haven't used it.
June 28, 2008 4:50:21 PM

i would also like to know which ram is better
June 29, 2008 8:15:24 PM

How much do you plan to overclock the Q9450?
June 29, 2008 8:28:13 PM

around 3 - 3.2
June 30, 2008 6:38:06 AM

bump
June 30, 2008 6:38:28 AM

bump
June 30, 2008 6:38:48 AM

bump
June 30, 2008 7:29:19 AM

Seems this thread was left somewhat ignored for a while. About that ram that was posted, it'll serve you very well; Corsair makes great stuff. I'd say you have the go-ahead on the system.
June 30, 2008 4:34:59 PM

DAMN DAMN DAMN the q9450 made the build too expensive. Is the q6600 good enough to last me 3-4 years?
July 1, 2008 4:39:19 AM

bump bump bump last question.
July 1, 2008 4:45:30 AM

The q6600 doesn't have SSE4, so it may begin to lag hard in newer and newer programs that support it, that's just speculation though.
July 1, 2008 4:56:54 PM

So should i go for it and order now with the q6600?
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