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mf2385   07-14-2008 at 11:49:16 PM

I was wondering if the new Geforce GTX 280 or 260 if I decide to get the 260 FTW edition or 280. Will it work with my 650 Watt PSU, I am not SLI anything, just single card solution. Will it be compatible with my Nforce 650i Ultra motherboard it's non-SLI, and the 280 is the best choice out now for it, along with the GX2.

So basically is the GTX 280 compatible with my Nforce 650i Ultra motherboard and 650 Watt PSU? Non-SLI just single card?





Thanks!

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dirtmountain   07-15-2008 at 02:15:34 AM
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Yes, the GTX 280 uses 183w at load. You'll be fine

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 03:19:59 AM
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Will it work with my motherboard and eveything? EVGA Nforce 650i Ultra Non-SLI


and idk if I should buy the GTX 260 FTW edition or the ATI radeon 4870 HD, those are my 2 choices right now..idk which one?

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 03:37:40 AM
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idk the GTX 260 FTW edition is amazing and price is really good and its NVIDIA, which I trust

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 03:41:39 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

idk the GTX 260 FTW edition is amazing and price is really good and its NVIDIA, which I trust


Is it cheaper than 4870? If so, then get it. Their performance is basically the same.

 

Also, does "FTW" (lol) stand for factory oced version? If so then it may be slightly faster.

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 03:42:50 AM
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For The Win Edition, It's like the best Overclocked version you can buy of the GTX 260 card series factory Sealed. It's around 360 compared to that of the HD 4870 for like 310

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 03:50:10 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

For The Win Edition, It's like the best Overclocked version you can buy of the GTX 260 card series factory Sealed. It's around 360 compared to that of the HD 4870 for like 310


I wouldn't think the extra $50 is worth just the factory oc. After all, do-it-yourself oc is just as good. :p

 

How much more expensive is it to a stock gtx260?

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 03:51:12 AM
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its like 370 and its the BEST edition OC you can get of the card, it's really fast, like 50 bucks more then the HD4870

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 04:16:16 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

its like 370 and its the BEST edition OC you can get of the card, it's really fast, like 50 bucks more then the HD4870


Beh! Just get a stock card and oc yourself. :D

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 04:23:18 AM
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idk I'd rather get the FTW, no **** around with it and warrantee!!

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 04:28:01 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

idk I'd rather get the FTW, no **** around with it and warrantee!!


Well, there is no way for them to detect if a gpu has been oced. But yes, you should be honest and tell them so they can drop your warranty. :na:

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croc   07-15-2008 at 04:33:48 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

its like 370 and its the BEST edition OC you can get of the card, it's really fast, like 50 bucks more then the HD4870



Its your money, and your fingers can search reviews as well as any of us. Don't come here asking for validation on the choices you have obviously made. You asked for advice, got advice, ignored advice.

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 04:34:26 AM
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No, I'm listening, thanks

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 04:36:00 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

look this is what I'm talking about:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] b260%2bFTW

 

such a beast


$360 after mir... :sarcastic:

 

Get this one for $280 after mir instead and oc yourself. Seriously, the $80 difference is not worth it. It's the same chip on the same reference cooler. You should be able to oc this card to that point just fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121257

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 04:42:32 AM
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that looks like a nice card, is that ASUS version really good? Like I don't need absolute top of the line but that card will work well for awhile right?

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 04:49:27 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

that looks like a nice card, is that ASUS version really good? Like I don't need absolute top of the line but that card will work well for awhile right?


At this point, it's the same chip manufacturered by Nvidia on a reference board required by Nvidia. Likely the factory floor from subcontractor is the same too. If so, it's literally a matter of putting on different labels. :p

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 04:52:32 AM
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True, but that one is still more then the 4870HD so whats the verdict?

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 04:56:42 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

True, but that one is still more then the 4870HD so whats the verdict?


The cheapest 4870 on Newegg is $295, no rebates. Considering you can't cf, and gtx260 runs cooler and overclocks better, the $280 gtx260 should be the better deal between the two.

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 05:00:06 AM
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the ASUS version one you linked me too? What about the Factory overclocked ones? No good?

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 05:02:10 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

the ASUS version one you linked me too? What about the Factory overclocked ones? No good?


The factory oced one cost $80 more. Of course it'll perform well, but the value won't be as good against the $295 4870. :p

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 05:05:45 AM
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So basically tell me which to get? I am still unsure, I think the 4870HD is better performing then the GTX260 in almost all games and better in newer games all the time and tie in older ones most likely, so that being said whats good?

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 05:15:48 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

So basically tell me which to get? I am still unsure, I think the 4870HD is better performing then the GTX260 in almost all games and better in newer games all the time and tie in older ones most likely, so that being said whats good?


That is absolutely not true. With both at stock, the hd4870 performs around 1.5% better overall.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/24 [...] d-4850/19/

 

Since the gtx260 overclocks better, it should breach this 1.5% advantage easily. And at $280, it's cheaper. The factory oced version is faster than 4870 out of the box, but at $360, is not good value, especially since you can oc the $280 one to the same level.

 

If you want to run sli, then you'll have to get a underperforming, overpriced nvidia chipset motherboard, as opposed to a well performing X38/48 board, which turns the equation towards ATI's favor. But since you're running single card anyway, it doesn't matter.

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 05:19:45 AM
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i just looked at the benchmarks of the Visiontek Radeon 4870 HD it's almost on par with the GTX 280, it's a very powerful card :)

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 05:26:26 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

i just looked at the benchmarks of the Visiontek Radeon 4870 HD it's almost on par with the GTX 280, it's a very powerful card :)


On which game? Those things can very greatly.

 

For example, see benchmarks for 4850:
Quake 4:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/13.html
Crysis:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/8.html

 

Quake 4 is a quirky old game, and few people play that anymore. It favors 4850 hugely, even beating gtx280 at high resolutions, but Crysis is more representative of newer games.

 

It's the overall performance that matters, not just in one game that may be skewed to favor one card or another.

 

Also, brands don't matter at this point. They're the same.

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mf2385   07-15-2008 at 05:53:20 AM
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Look at the 4870 Benchmarks on Anandtech

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dagger   07-15-2008 at 06:09:36 AM
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mf2385 wrote :

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews [...] 870/6.html

 


the 4870 not the 4850 dude
look there heh very well see


I'm not saying any advantage over gtx280 here. It also doesn't include gtx260. And CoD4 is heavily optimized for ATI gpus in general. Results from other games on that same review are more balanced.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews [...] 70/10.html

 

It's your choice. Get 4870 if it makes you feel better. $295 is certainly not bad value, just not as good bang for the buck as $280 for gtx260.

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