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I've been toying with the idea of building my own computer the last week or so. I am pretty new to this and would welcome any and all knowledge you guys have to share with me for this. I'm hoping to keep the prive under 900 for the time being. That is why i have a slightly cheaper video card in at the moment, will upgrade at a later date.
 
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We can't see it if it's "Secure Wishlist".  


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hmm, thought i had the public one, oh well, sorry about that. Heres a list of what i have on it, and URL's for them.
 
Optical: HP 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black IDE Model dvd1040i
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827140025
 
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017
 
PSU: Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182032
 
Memory: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145184
 
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
 
MoBo: ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131275
 
Case: RAIDMAX Sagitta 2 ATX-928WB Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156090
 
Vid Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161206
 
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488

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Wow that case if fugly. Honestly, look at RC-690, Antec Nine Hundred, Antec Three Hundred. Get a Antec/Corsair/PCP&C PSU. Get a 4850 or a 8800GTS 512 for about $120 after rebate. Look at X38/X48 if you get the 4850 for CF. That RAM is fine, but @ 5-5-5-18 @ 1.9v, it's weak sauce. Look at Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 2t 2.2v DDR2-800 PC6400. 2GB is okay, 4GB recommended. Look at WD6400AAKS, bang for buck, solid performer. Get the 64-bit OS for 4GB. Get a SATA optical drive, the one you picked has IDE, which is the wide ribbons, SATA is the thin cable that doesn't affect airflow negatively.

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Only thing i would reconsider is the PSU, Rosewill not exactly known for high quality PSUs
 
Antec Earthwatts 500w 59.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371007


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Shoudl i go with the 64bit Vista or the 32bit vista? doing some more reading, it seems there are driver issues with the 64bit verison?

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considering this case, looks pretty cool http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811166007

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kylednelson wrote :

hmm, thought i had the public one, oh well, sorry about that. Heres a list of what i have on it, and URL's for them.
 
Optical: HP 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black IDE Model dvd1040i
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827140025
 
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017
 
PSU: Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182032
 
Memory: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145184
 
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
 
MoBo: ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131275
 
Case: RAIDMAX Sagitta 2 ATX-928WB Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156090
 
Vid Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161206
 
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488


 
 
Raidmax sucks...and that's being nice about it.   Raidmax makes cheap tacky hardware.  The cases have crap airflow, and the psu's burn out after a year.    
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119106   $52.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835150070   $4.99  
MASSCOOL FD12025S1L3/4 120mm Case Fan - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341012   $69.99 (49.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate)  
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130339   $199.99  
EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017   $199.99  
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130185   $96.99 ($81.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)  
MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145184   $86.99 ($66.50 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148136   $74.99  
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106263   $23.99
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0&Tpk=mx-2   $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail  
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116204   $94.99  
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM  
 
Total
$912.89  
$852.89 w/mail in rebates


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Wow that case if fugly. Honestly, look at RC-690, Antec Nine Hundred, Antec Three Hundred. Get a Antec/Corsair/PCP&C PSU. Get a 4850 or a 8800GTS 512 for about $120 after rebate. Look at X38/X48 if you get the 4850 for CF. That RAM is fine, but @ 5-5-5-18 @ 1.9v, it's weak sauce. Look at Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 2t 2.2v DDR2-800 PC6400. 2GB is okay, 4GB recommended. Look at WD6400AAKS, bang for buck, solid performer. Get the 64-bit OS for 4GB. Get a SATA optical drive, the one you picked has IDE, which is the wide ribbons, SATA is the thin cable that doesn't affect airflow negatively.


 
I mentioned an Antec PSU in my last post.
 
He said he plans to replace the Video Card later, hes trying to keep it within budget.
 
Memory should be fine he wouldn't notice the difference between 4-4-4-12 & 5-5-5-18
 
He listed Vista HP 64bit......
 
Agree SATA is better, but be gentle with the SATA connectors I had one break on me while trying to remove it(Gigabyte cable and motherboard) fortunately I had a spare....


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You broke one? Sad... How is it Gigabytes fault? there is a release mechanism on it, its called press ur thumb on it.

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Vista HP 64bit? Whats HP? Hewlett Packard? 5-5-5-18 is very loose (insert ur mom joke here). antec psu is good. dont get a weak gpu now and upgrade later, get a 4850 unless its cf, 1 4850 now, another later.

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Well, I will not being buying it all at once, so if i make the video card one fo the last things i buy, i can probably get away with the 4850 then

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Agree with Why_me.....except he was being way too kind about Raidmax

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Here's an update so far, based on the feedback i've gotten (thank you all for your help thus far)
 
PSU: Antec earthwatts EA500 500W ATX12V v2.0 Power Supply - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371007
 
Optical: LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106263
 
Case:  Sunbeam AC-HUVB UV Blue (UV reactive) Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811166007
 
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148136
 
MoBo: ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131275
 
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017
 
Memory: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145184
 
Vid Card: SAPPHIRE 100242L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102747
 
Plus the fan, compound, and Vista 64bit.
Grand total: 914.40 (874.40 after mail-in-rebates)

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Sot he above is the 99% certainity list of what i am going to get for my computer (still debating on case, i want somethign that looks badass but also has good airflow). Now my last challenage will be to find a computer on dell or alienware that is similar to this to show my wife that (hopefully) its cheaper to build my own! lol

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kylednelson wrote :

Sot he above is the 99% certainity list of what i am going to get for my computer (still debating on case, i want somethign that looks badass but also has good airflow). Now my last challenage will be to find a computer on dell or alienware that is similar to this to show my wife that (hopefully) its cheaper to build my own! lol


 
Performance  > Looks...that is if your a gamer.
 
Airflow, quality, and room for expansion is always what to look for in a case.  Most of those cases with flashy lights and plastic windows are junk for the most part.


Message edited by Why_Me on 06-30-2008 at 02:59:09 AM

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You do have a good point. and I do plan on increasing my gaming when i get this rig (as my 4 year old dell just isn't cutting it anymore, only PCI slots!)
What are people thoughts on this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811164040
 


Message edited by kylednelso n on 07-03-2008 at 03:31:22 AM
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Will my PSU be "strong" enough for my build? What about if/when ig et a second 4850

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