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EVGA & Gigabyte GTX280's for 449.00!! What do you guys think?

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July 17, 2008 4:37:07 PM

I was just surfing on Newegg and noticed that both reference versions of the GTX280 from EVGA and Gigabyte have dropped another 50.00 to 449.00.

That is seriously a great deal in my opinion. And that is without rebates, just regular price. I was laughing at Nvidia when they released these things at 650.00, but now they are not to shabby.

If I think about it, I paid 450.00 retail for an 8800 GTS 320mb card when they first hit the stores back then because I didnt want to pay for the 8800GTX's 550.00 price tag at the time.

The GTX280 out performs Two of those in SLi, and I am currently running (2) 8800Gt's in SLi, so (2) GTX280's would be essentially like having (4) 8800GTX's/GT's in your machine, based off current benchmarks, and performance ratio's.

What do you guys think of these cards now, as obviously they are not slouches by any means, and the drivers are still very new, with maturity they will obviously get better, and I am already running a 790i Ultra board. The next step seems logical at 200.00 cheaper than they were only 3 weeks ago.

I am very close to making a decision to go Sli GTX280's or Tri-SLi GTX260's. However what are you guys thoughts on the current market and are any of you considering the leap yet?
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 4:44:08 PM

LOL, I paid $450 for my first car.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 4:53:48 PM

I think the price is getting better for sure, but it's still far less performance for the buck than cheaper cards. Not that you or I can run them, but look at crossfire HD4850 for under $350 on Newegg as an example, or even SLI 8800GT for about $250 now, offering GTX280 performance for $200 less.

As a fellow Q6600 / SLI 8800GT user, may I ask what games you need more performance in? What res are you running? That's still an awful lot of money to run Crysis in DX10 very high at your native res considering the performance you have right now with two 8800GT. Personally I am all set until Sep/Oct with some of those new releases coming out. I'll see how SLi 8800GT does then and if bad does any solution at a decent price provide much better playable settings.

If money is really no object and the thrill of owning the cutting edge is worth it alone, then the the price isn't all too bad.
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July 17, 2008 4:58:02 PM

Wow....it seems nvidia is really responding to ATI's competitive pricing!
$200 price drop in a month!? Amazing.

Yeah these cards are much more feasible with the new pricing. I would wait on it though. Since you have an nvidia motherboard it may be worth it to you to get one. However I would wait for the 4870 X2 to come out, and see the pricing on that. I read one review that said it beats the GTX 280.
July 17, 2008 4:58:43 PM

HD 4870 is $300 and dropping a bit each day and it performs on the heels of the GTX 280, so I still don't think the price is down enough yet. Once the GTX 280 hits around $350, then we'll see.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 5:00:59 PM

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HD4850 for under $350 on Newegg as an example, or even SLI 8800GThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series%238800_GT for about $250 now, offering GTX280 performance for $200 less.


And two is better than one. Market is turning up two's for sure. With the GTX280, you may own the number one single card for maybe a few weeks until 4870x2 anywayway. Happened to me with my 5950 Ultra. It was king during the shipping process.
July 17, 2008 5:01:41 PM

Looking at the prices on newegg, it is amazing to see there is nearly a $150 price gap between versions of the GTX 280. It seems the market still has to catch up with itself with prices dropping so quickly.

Correction: As of 7-17-08 the price difference is $160.
July 17, 2008 5:02:50 PM

+1 for pauldh.
In any case, some reviews have shown that 3xSLI does not scale as well as 2xSLI, specially in physics and AA. I heard that's because with 3 cards SLI bridge takes its toll, but I couldn't tell for sure. (I'm just the poor owner of a single 8800Ultra).
If you also take in consideration power demands, heat generation and cable availability on your PSU, 2x280 probably makes more sense than 3x260.
Should you decide to up-grade, don't forget to post your results later.
July 17, 2008 5:06:12 PM

What do I think?

*I think Nvidia can take that price of $449 and shove it up their @$$.
July 17, 2008 5:11:57 PM

At 350.00 dollars Nvidia would most likely be losing money on each card they sold, so I don't think I see that one happening anytime soon.

Also everyone please remember that I am still using a 790i Ultra board so an Sli setup would be the most logical choice, and two 4870 in crossfire might beat one GTX280, but not 2 of them, and I will later have the option to upgrade to Tri-Sli as well which scales very well according to the benchmarks so far for the GTX 280.

Even if the 4870X2 comes out at 500.00 dollars (the projected price) the GTX280 is now 450.00 for very similar(if not better) performance, and of course I cant Crossfire to 4870X2's on my Sli MOBO.

The point here is basically should I wait and see if Nvidia goes lower or not, and the big question, will they release something new within the next 3 months that I can step up to using EVGA's step up program, if perhaps I am not happy with the outcome.

Although with the benchmarks I've seen I really dont see how I could not be happy. Comparing them to my 8800GT SLi Setup, it will be like having 4 cards instead my current two.

That makes me want to Click on the order button at newegg right now dammmmitt!!
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 5:15:34 PM

To this day, I wish I had never clicked the $376 order buton on my 5950 Ultra. Thank jebus for SLI free 5900 series availabilty only.
July 17, 2008 5:21:16 PM

I say wait. Respectable sources have said that most of the final price drops for the GTX 280/260's will be done by August. There is also a couple of web sources that say Nvidia will release new product line by years end. I would think around November (aka 8800GTX 2006 style) just in time for the Christmas rush.

You and I can afford to wait with the current cards we have and press the order button on some real high end stuff. I don't believe this is it.
July 17, 2008 6:11:00 PM

pauldh said:
I think the price is getting better for sure, but it's still far less performance for the buck than cheaper cards. Not that you or I can run them, but look at crossfire HD4850 for under $350 on Newegg as an example, or even SLI 8800GT for about $250 now, offering GTX280 performance for $200 less.

As a fellow Q6600 / SLI 8800GT user, may I ask what games you need more performance in? What res are you running? That's still an awful lot of money to run Crysis in DX10 very high at your native res considering the performance you have right now with two 8800GT. Personally I am all set until Sep/Oct with some of those new releases coming out. I'll see how SLi 8800GT does then and if bad does any solution at a decent price provide much better playable settings.

If money is really no object and the thrill of owning the cutting edge is worth it alone, then the the price isn't all too bad.


Yeah, but that's similar to what it was like when G80 hit in 2006, except, SLI didn't scale all that well. A 7900GTX SLI rig would never perform as well.

good SLI/crossfire mobos are expensive, and require better cooling and power supplies. Also, the card's don't always scale well. In my opinion, when you get SLI you just hope that it will improve your performance in all games- I've seen lots of people lose performance from SLI'ing their cards (as it doesn't scale, and the 8x SLI'ed PCIE cripples the card a bit). A lot of NVIDIA SLI boards have a tendency to suck at overclocking, too. Even on SLI boards, buying a single, state of the art card gives you better upgrade options in the future.

That said, SLI has improved a TON since it came out. Games now scale dual card solutions much better then they used to, making SLI'ing the super cheap 8800GT's a fantastic option that will surpass the performance of the GTX 260/HD 4870 at a great price, though, you're risking losing some FPS in some games.

I'm actually surprised that NVIDIA dropped their prices as much as they did. That's crazy. The dies on those cards are freaking huge and expensive to make. As i've said in other threads, the G80 architecture's 8800GTX's never went below $330 even though the $200 9800GTX's we're beating them in a lot of the tests, and even 8800GTS 640MB which still costs $175 on the egg now. You would have to be crazy to buy one of those now.
July 17, 2008 6:26:01 PM

dragon...in my opinion, you should wait AT LEAST until the 4870x2 arrives.

that could change the prices of the market even more...and you could save yourself some $$$, and who wouldn't want to in our economic state...that is unless you absolutely need it now.
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 6:27:16 PM

1843151,10,305052 said:


Even if the 4870X2 comes out at 500.00 dollars (the projected price) the GTX280 is now 450.00 for very similar(if not better) performance, and of course I cant Crossfire to 4870X2's on my Sli MOBO.

The HD 4870 X2 is way faster than a single GTX 280 even in Crysis. Even Nvidia said that the HD 4870 X2 will be faster than their GTX 280
July 17, 2008 6:38:03 PM

Like I said in another post about the price cuts, there is no doubt that Nvidia is loosing money on these cards now, at least the middleman (EVGA, Gigabyte) and retailers (Newegg, Zipzoomfly etc.) are for sure. Price cuts are always bad news for distributers and resellers because they are having to sell something they paid $600 for $450 now. (Give/take distributer "discounting" on those numbers obviously)

Also with the success of the 4800 cards and rave reviews, I wouldnt be suprised if AMD sends the 4870X2 out at $450. That would truly be something Nvidia could not compete against, period.
July 17, 2008 6:38:20 PM

Nividia's next cards are rumoured to be supporting DX10.1 and also they are supposed to be about 2 times faster than current cards. Whether or not these are worth waiting 6 months for is up to you.
July 17, 2008 6:44:00 PM

Why would you need GTX280? I built a new computer this week and I got HD4850 for third of the price of GTX280. It handles everything at 1920x1080. And if I need more power a year from now I will Crossfire and by that time it will cost me under $100. End of discussion. Now for those of you who is going to say "what if he plays at 2560 x 1600 resolution". If that's the case, he would not be here asking if $449 was a good deal after it dropped a $100.
July 17, 2008 7:23:48 PM

Quote:
Nividia's next cards are rumoured to be supporting DX10.1 and also they are supposed to be about 2 times faster than current cards. Whether or not these are worth waiting 6 months for is up to you.


Don't they say that at every generation?
July 17, 2008 7:34:58 PM

OrderChaos said:
Nividia's next cards are rumoured to be supporting DX10.1 and also they are supposed to be about 2 times faster than current cards. Whether or not these are worth waiting 6 months for is up to you.


Nvidia is skipping 10.1 for dx11 from everything I have read. Even then, a 100% performance increase over the GTX280 sounds a little crazy to me. Even after the die shrink they won't be able to make a GTX280X2, so Imagine the size of a nvidia chip that is twice the performance of the current generation? :pt1cable: 

Dragoncyber, I don't know what kind of case and psu you have, but, 2xgtx280 sound hot and power hungry to me :)  If you already have 2x8800gt in sli just spend some money on some aftermarket cooling(h20 or new heatsinks) and over clock your cards. 2x8800gt isn't a bad setup at all. Whatever you do, wait until fall for the upgrade, prices could be much better by then.
July 17, 2008 7:44:29 PM

Nvidia is also supposed to be going to gddr5 which will help with performance. As I said, this is RUMOURED to be 2 times faster. Whether or not it actually is has yet to be seen. For more info on Nvidias next generation cards read http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-directx-drivers... As it says in the title "Nvidia expected to offer DirectX 10.1 in Q'1 2009."
July 17, 2008 7:46:58 PM

It's a waste of time trying to postulate benchmarks on future hardware.

I wouldn't bother with a GTX280. The best way to go is price/performance ratio. For the past year or so, it has been the 8800GT. Now, I'd say your best choice is ATI's 4850, or perhaps two of them in Crossfire. I'd also consider the 4870 and the GTX260, but I wouldn't even think to buy a GTX280.

New cards will always be coming out, and it's rare that a card sticks around at the top for as long as the 8800GTX did. If you wait for the most powerful card, you'll always be waiting, since there will always be another release. So, like I said, price/performance ratio is king. Stick with your 8800GTs or get the 4850, 4870, or perhaps GTX 260.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 7:52:30 PM

doomsdaydave11 said:
Yeah, but that's similar to what it was like when G80 hit in 2006, except, SLI didn't scale all that well. A 7900GTX SLI rig would never perform as well.

good SLI/crossfire mobos are expensive, and require better cooling and power supplies. Also, the card's don't always scale well. In my opinion, when you get SLI you just hope that it will improve your performance in all games- I've seen lots of people lose performance from SLI'ing their cards (as it doesn't scale, and the 8x SLI'ed PCIE cripples the card a bit). A lot of NVIDIA SLI boards have a tendency to suck at overclocking, too. Even on SLI boards, buying a single, state of the art card gives you better upgrade options in the future.

That said, SLI has improved a TON since it came out. Games now scale dual card solutions much better then they used to, making SLI'ing the super cheap 8800GT's a fantastic option that will surpass the performance of the GTX 260/HD 4870 at a great price, though, you're risking losing some FPS in some games.

I'm actually surprised that NVIDIA dropped their prices as much as they did. That's crazy. The dies on those cards are freaking huge and expensive to make. As i've said in other threads, the G80 architecture's 8800GTX's never went below $330 even though the $200 9800GTX's we're beating them in a lot of the tests, and even 8800GTS 640MB which still costs $175 on the egg now. You would have to be crazy to buy one of those now.

Not only was the 8800GTX faster than 7900GTX SLI, but pricing was not as it is today. The 7900GTX was nowhere near $150 or even less after rebate. It was over $400 for the 7900GTX back around G80 launch, a very different picture back then compared to now. Right now we have a single $450 card (launched much higher in cost) trading blows with two $150 (or less AR)cards. And I agree with you it's not all games, but it is the vast majority.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_nforce_750i_sl...
8X/8X crossfire seems to hurt performance on the HD4850, but the Firingsquad link above shows the 8800GTS 512 performing just as well on 750i 8x/8x as 780i 16x/16x, so motherboard isn't that big an issue cost wise. It is an issue if you don't have an SLI mobo of course. And power supply is a non-issue because a single HD4870 or GTX280 consumes the same power anyway as SLI 8800GT.

Anyway, my point is, while $450 is a price drop, it really only offers $300 of performance compared to other solutions.(8800GT SLI) Being the top single GPU card would allow for some premium above that, but $150-200 more for performance that trades blows is not a bargain. I too am shocked at the price drops, but I guess supply is up, and the HD4870 and cheaper SLI/crossfire solutions are hurting sales.
a c 164 U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 7:53:54 PM

Seeing as SLI 8800GT is ~ 9800GX2, where do you get this four card figure from? The GX2 is ~ GTX280, so the setup you have now shouldn't be that far behind. (probably just better then 4870 performance.) Considering that you already have a setup that performs around the GTX280, I don't think you'll get your $$$ worth.

Stay with what you have, wait until things get better for you. 4870x2 might drive prices down later. If things are coming out in nov/dec, wait for that setup program to make sense. (if you buy now, at best you'll be able to buy a new card at inflated intro prices in Oct.) Frankly, even at $450, its still out price/performanced by the 4870. Another $100 drop would be nice. (They already are having money issues, read the review sites.)
July 17, 2008 7:54:27 PM

resonance451 said:
It's a waste of time trying to postulate benchmarks on future hardware.

I wouldn't bother with a GTX280. The best way to go is price/performance ratio. For the past year or so, it has been the 8800GT. Now, I'd say your best choice is ATI's 4850, or perhaps two of them in Crossfire. I'd also consider the 4870 and the GTX260, but I wouldn't even think to buy a GTX280.

New cards will always be coming out, and it's rare that a card sticks around at the top for as long as the 8800GTX did. If you wait for the most powerful card, you'll always be waiting, since there will always be another release. So, like I said, price/performance ratio is king. Stick with your 8800GTs or get the 4850, 4870, or perhaps GTX 260.


I completely agree. It all comes down to what mobo you have, and if you want to sli/cf or not. If your upgrading mobo and graphics, get a CF board. If you already have a good Sli or CF board, stick with it and get the best price/performance card you can. For CF its the 4850 right now (but that might change to 4870x2) and Sli I'm not sure, but gtx260 is way better price/performance than I can ever see the gtx 280 getting to.
July 17, 2008 7:54:53 PM

I didn't read everyone post , so maybe someone mentioned this but I called Evga to get info on the power supply requirements and if you sli these, ( my step up is running out right now and I wanted a GTX 260 ) you will need a 1000 watt psu that right there makes it not worth it at all .
July 17, 2008 8:10:22 PM

OKay since several of you have asked about what I am currently running and what I game at resolution wise here are the answers.

I game at 1920X1200 typically with AA set @ 4X, ( not Crysis)

24" FHD2400 GatewayMonitor, w/ 3ms response
IntelQuad Q6600 OC'd @ 3.6GHZ @ 1.45v
Ultra ChillTEC Thermal Electric Cooler
(4) gb Corsair DDR3 memory @ 1333mhz @ 1.7v
EVGA 790i Ultra board bios #: P05 @ 1600mhz FSB @ 1.35v
(2) BFG 8800GT's 512 mb in SLi Configuration >
OC'd to 700 core, 1650 Shader, 1000 memory
(4) 250 Gb 32 mb Cache Seagate Barracuda Drives in Raid "0"
(2) Samsung DVD-RW/CD-RW drives (Sata)
1200 Watt Thermaltake Toughpower PowerSupply
CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000 case
(6) 120mm Fans (Red)
And yes...a floppy drive.

What I am concerned about is power requirements as you can see the system is already pretty loaded, the 1200 watt psu has plenty of juice for the current setup, but what about (2) GTX280's? or (3) GTX260's?

As you guys can see it would be very difficult for me to drop my Nvidia based system to switch to ATI and get the same performance as a GTX280 Sli'd system. So thats where it lays currently.

I am really getting itchy mouse fingers though for double GTX280's now with this price drop. Believe it or not my Dual 8800GT's are showing their age when I start playing some of the newer games at high res, and graphics settings tweaked up. Heck it's not that great even for maxed out Oblivion, outside areas with maxed out settings still slows down these cards.


a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 8:19:10 PM

What OS? Nvidia's Vista drivers are shakey compared to ATI's. Two x GTX280 with shakey drivers for the forseeable future may not be worth the anguish or, in the end, solve your current SLI config slow downs.
July 17, 2008 8:22:54 PM

XP 32 bit right now, I was planning to jump to Vista 64 but now with several people I know having compatibility issues Im not sure I wanna make the move until maybe another service pack.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 8:26:43 PM

I strapped on a second Radeon 3870 to my X38 and 3DMark score went up 50% with my Vista 64 system. I don't game, so I'm not versed in this section. But, the last several rounds of ATI's drivers have each offered improved performance to my Vista 64 set up. I'm pleased and enjoy the bazooms out it.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 8:36:36 PM

How are your temps, generally. My two Radeon 3870 are currently idling at 40c per GPUZ. The only thing hotter than an unrefrigerated can of coke right now on my system is the NB at 50c by ASUS Probe and that is overvolted to run 8 gigs of RAM. I love it!
July 17, 2008 8:38:18 PM

Well with the four gigs of ram, when the time comes I'll be ready for the upgrade from Xp Pro to Vista 64. Right now they just look cool. As far as the speculation and rumors about the future technology coming out it is in fact just rumors. Nobody knows what's up Nvidia's sleeve for their next Bomb, I do know that I think the green team underestimated the red team this time performance wise.

So this would lead you to believe that maybe they got taken by suprise and don't have anything in the works for the immediate future, heck maybe not even for a good 6 months or more, maybe a year we might not see the next 8800GTX performance type leap in graphics capability.

The point is really that twin GTX280's would be a powerhouse of a system indeed and would hold their own nicely for at least a year and a half as far as games are concerned. I don't plan to swap my mobo for atleast a year or two, as I just bought it.

I just don't know how much lower Nvidia is willing to go before they are just breaking even, and that worries me, because if they do just barely cut the mustard on these cards, I don't want to be stuck with Nvidia's version of the HD2900, with lacking support as they sweep the mistake under the rug and start fresh.
July 17, 2008 8:46:36 PM

My GT's Idle @ 43-45C on average, and under load because of the overclock they hit 60-65C. But my case is open and I have (2) 120mm fans mounted together blowing on them.

I hit 19,500 in 3dmark06 and over 200,000 in Aquamark.
I am hoping that my Q6600 wont bottle neck twin GTX280's if I went that route. It is clocked at 3.6ghz but still it's not an extreme processor.

The 790i boards get hot if you dont tweak them perfectly, but they overclock like nothing else. Great boards!! Just make sure your using Bios P05.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 8:51:02 PM

How much longer on your stepup? Thing is, Ive heard that the 55nm release, or some "other" card is coming soon. If you bought a 280 now, you may miss out on this "other" card, or may not. Id wait until almost the last day if I were you. You have the stepup, use it. I wouldnt buy two, Id buy one and use your stepup, and wait to see what happens. Unless both cards are covered by your stepup
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 8:57:39 PM

I get 15,700. Stock as a rock. You have good temps for that OC. Most Q6600 can't even run 3.6Ghz. Bumping your systems FSB from 266Mhz to attain 3.6GHz has to create some serious heat. You already have the side panel off. Get those dual GTX280's in there and the back panel won't be needed either 8)
July 17, 2008 9:07:01 PM

That sounds about right for twin 3870's. But overclocked proc and cards will get you close.

I don't currently have a step up program right now, I was refering to if I bought the (2) GTX280's how long would I have until Nvidia came out with something better, and would I be able to step up in time if I bought EVGA.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 9:24:45 PM

Im hearing that a "new"ard will be released right after we see the x2s from ATI. It should work, tho I think theyre still overpriced, and need to come down. However, if this is your plan, and its successful, spending the money now and gaining the xperience until the newer cards come out, then stepup isnt a bad idead, which brings us again around to power consumption. Id look at the x2s power requirements, as Im pretty sure the newer cards coming will have similar requirements.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2008 9:32:48 PM

+1 jaydeejohn. The 'Experience' factor, hell yes! I know dragoncyber has his heart set on setting fire to his Visa (and his machine). Go for it Cyber...really. After your experienced enough, you can start your own company and write future experience related 'fun' off! Stepup and do it. 8)
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2008 2:51:50 AM

No one posted the details regarding EVGA's trade up program and I have neve used it so I would like to know the details too if anyone cares to post it. I did however receive this in my mailbox this morning. EVGA is returning cold hard cash to anyone who paid $650 for a 260/280 series card upon their release. Pretty good of the company to do this. In fact, it's great to see a company be so successful by implementing this kind of customer care policy. Pretty cool company from the guys at the top.

http://www.evga.com/articles/EVGABucksPromo.asp
July 18, 2008 3:19:24 AM

Here are the details of stepup, I am in the process of upgrading both my 9800 GTXs to 260s.

Start the process online.

Pay for the difference in price, plus $5.50 in shipping.

They email you a shipping label.

Take it somewhere and get it shipped to EVGA (UPS cost me $15). Shipping must be under 14 days.

Wait for them to process it and they ship you the new card. Finished.

Note, you MUST include all accessories the card shipped with (unless you got it as part of a eligible system) and the card must not be damaged in any way and in working condition.

The end result is me getting two 260's for around $350+$285+$11+$30-$75 (NewEgg refunded me $75 for the 2nd GTX, thats another story) = about $601. The process is fairly painless. I thought this was a fine deal for about 2 months of SLI 9800 GTXs and now SLI 260s.

@ OP: As others suggested, wait for 4870x2 and hopefully prices MIGHT hit the $400 point (not too much of a stretch, as right now 280 can be found for $420). Then buy the 280. Wait till you need it, then SLI it. Should be good for around 2 years in my opinion. At $450, I don't think the 280 is exactly a deal as far as price/performance is concerned, but I don't think it's too bad either. You can also stepup to the 55nm revision too at some point.

a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2008 3:24:39 AM

Just to add to the above - you do get to keep bundled games, but must return everything else as was said.
July 18, 2008 3:47:29 AM

350-400$ seems like a price to wait for, In my opinion that would balance out the Price/Performance a little bit
a c 164 U Graphics card
July 18, 2008 6:24:30 AM

Seeing as the OP has the PSU, why not sell your 8800GT's and get two 9800GTX? Should be just better then the 9800GX2, and cost a butt load less then the 280.

The 280 is a powerful card, but not when you look at the price/performance ratio. Two 9800GTX's should be more powerful then the 280, and cost less at the same time.
July 18, 2008 6:34:52 AM

dragoncyber said:
At 350.00 dollars Nvidia would most likely be losing money on each card they sold, so I don't think I see that one happening anytime soon.

Also everyone please remember that I am still using a 790i Ultra board so an Sli setup would be the most logical choice, and two 4870 in crossfire might beat one GTX280, but not 2 of them, and I will later have the option to upgrade to Tri-Sli as well which scales very well according to the benchmarks so far for the GTX 280.

Even if the 4870X2 comes out at 500.00 dollars (the projected price) the GTX280 is now 450.00 for very similar(if not better) performance, and of course I cant Crossfire to 4870X2's on my Sli MOBO.

The point here is basically should I wait and see if Nvidia goes lower or not, and the big question, will they release something new within the next 3 months that I can step up to using EVGA's step up program, if perhaps I am not happy with the outcome.

Although with the benchmarks I've seen I really dont see how I could not be happy. Comparing them to my 8800GT SLi Setup, it will be like having 4 cards instead my current two.

That makes me want to Click on the order button at newegg right now dammmmitt!!


Actualy there was some tests that shows 4870x2 beating in most of them due better scaling that 2 280 in SLI.
Even if single 4870 have slightly lower performance in CF it gaining advantage over SLI.
July 18, 2008 6:47:58 AM

dragoncyber said:
I was just surfing on Newegg and noticed that both reference versions of the GTX280 from EVGA and Gigabyte have dropped another 50.00 to 449.00.

That is seriously a great deal in my opinion. And that is without rebates, just regular price. I was laughing at Nvidia when they released these things at 650.00, but now they are not to shabby.

If I think about it, I paid 450.00 retail for an 8800 GTS 320mb card when they first hit the stores back then because I didnt want to pay for the 8800GTX's 550.00 price tag at the time.

The GTX280 out performs Two of those in SLi, and I am currently running (2) 8800Gt's in SLi, so (2) GTX280's would be essentially like having (4) 8800GTX's/GT's in your machine, based off current benchmarks, and performance ratio's.

What do you guys think of these cards now, as obviously they are not slouches by any means, and the drivers are still very new, with maturity they will obviously get better, and I am already running a 790i Ultra board. The next step seems logical at 200.00 cheaper than they were only 3 weeks ago.

I am very close to making a decision to go Sli GTX280's or Tri-SLi GTX260's. However what are you guys thoughts on the current market and are any of you considering the leap yet?


Aren't you the same guy who went on a tirade about how horrible the GTX280 was a few weeks ago? http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/251761-33-reasons-gtx280

Rather quick change of heart eh?

July 18, 2008 11:47:42 AM

Possible a die shrink is on order for the GTX 280 anytime soon? Perhaps that would be initially released at a reasonable price point.

Seems like people are forgetting that the GTX 280 is a great card. It was simply priced higher because why would Nvidia suddenly bank on the fact that ATI was going to release good cards at a lower price?

Crazy to act like the 280's are worthless. Now that Nvidia knows where ATI is pricing their cards, they can adjust accordingly. Hard to do that before ATI releases anything of value.

It's business.
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2008 12:19:08 PM

There should be no apologizing for nVidia. If ATI brought their prices down, its to ATIs credit, not ATIs fault. And it isnt that much better, just barely, not as much as the x2 is over the 280. Being that its 10-20% faster than a 4870, at 450$, the x2 will be 30 to 80% faster and therefore 675$, and I wouldnt defend that price, no way
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