Good evening,
I have been attempting to research methods to overclock and older MSI MS-7191 motherboard that I have. I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ socket 939 processor coming in for this machine and would like to revitalize it. From what I have read the processor mod to open up the L1 won't be difficult, however I am having a bit of difficulty with the BIOS settings. I am running on v1.2 of the MSI released BIOS (most recent release).
From my past OC experiences and research the ideal motherboards provide a very fine degree of control when it comes to controlling bus speeds, multipliers and the like independently. That is unfortunately not the case whatsoever with this mobo. I am hoping that if you pros are provided the specifics options presented to me, we can work together to find a workable OC, or at least put it to rest that one will not be possible.
I will attempt to outline the pertinent and/or questionable areas below and present the various options available in this version of American Megatrends BIOS. It is provided in the following format "Option name [(selected option)/ option]".
POWER MANAGEMENT FEATURES:
ACPI Function [(Enabled)/Disabled]
ACPI Standby State [(S1/POS)/ S3POS/ Auto]
PNP/PCI CONFIGURATIONS:
Clear ESCD [(No)/Yes]
Primary Graphics Adapter [(Auto)/PCI Mode]
PCI Latency Timer [32/(64)/96/128]
CELL MENU
Cool'n'Quiet [(Disabled)/Enabled]
Adjust DDR Memory Frequency [(Auto)/Manual (options available 100/133/166/200MHz)]
Ratio Change [(Auto)/ Manual CPU Ratio (options available x5/x6/x7/x8/x9/x10/x11/x12/x13/x14/x15/x16/x17/x18/x19/x20)]
Auto Disable PCI Clock [(Enabled)/Disabled]
Spread Spectrum [(Enabled)/Disabled]
As you can see I am not working with much here. I hope this sets of a little (or big) lightbulb over someone's head. Thanks for your time.
The following is taken from a CPUID CPU-Z Log, I have cut it up to prevent a huge text wall, if you require the full contents please let me know and I will get them to you. You will notice that this particular log is for the current processor in this particular machine and is not the X2.
Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone out there can provide, and to the rest... well I apologize for such a long post.
Best Regards!
-bp-
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CPU-Z version 1.51
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Processors Map
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 1
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0
Processors Information
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 1 (max 1)
Number of threads 1 (max 1)
Name AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Codename Venice
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Package Socket 939
CPUID F.F.0
Extended CPUID F.2F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH-E3
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 1994.3 MHz (10.0 x 199.4 MHz)
HT Link speed 997.1 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
max FID 10.0x
VID range 1.100 V - 1.450 V
Features XD
K8 Thermal sensor yes
K8 Revision ID 4.0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Chipset
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Northbridge ATI Xpress 200 (RS480) rev. 10
Southbridge ATI SB400 rev. 80
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 3072 MBytes
Channels Single
Memory Frequency 166.2 MHz (CPU/12)
CAS# 2.5
RAS# to CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Cycle Time (tRAS) 7
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 10
DRAM Idle Timer 16
Command Rate 2T
Memory SPD
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DIMM #1
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) (127F000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 133 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 3
RAS# Precharge 2 3 3
TRAS 6 7 8
DIMM #2
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Wintec Industries (7F61000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
DIMM #3
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) (127F000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 133 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 3
RAS# Precharge 2 3 3
TRAS 6 7 8
DIMM #4
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Wintec Industries (7F61000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
Mainboard Model MS-7191 (0x19F - 0x5F1951)
Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------
Winbond W83627THF hardware monitor
Voltage sensor 0 1.43 Volts [0x97] (CPU VCore)
Voltage sensor 1 12.59 Volts [0xCF] (+12V)
Voltage sensor 2 3.12 Volts [0xC3] (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 3 4.85 Volts [0xB6] (+5V)
Voltage sensor 4 0.67 Volts [0x2A] (VIN2)
Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 40°C (103°F) [0x50] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 14°C (57°F) [0x1C] (VTIN)
Fan sensor 0 1671 RPM [0x65] (FANIN0)
Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------
ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series hardware monitor
Voltage sensor 0 1.01 Volts [0x1] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 55°C (130°F) [0x37] (GPU Core)
Dump hardware monitor
I have been attempting to research methods to overclock and older MSI MS-7191 motherboard that I have. I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ socket 939 processor coming in for this machine and would like to revitalize it. From what I have read the processor mod to open up the L1 won't be difficult, however I am having a bit of difficulty with the BIOS settings. I am running on v1.2 of the MSI released BIOS (most recent release).
From my past OC experiences and research the ideal motherboards provide a very fine degree of control when it comes to controlling bus speeds, multipliers and the like independently. That is unfortunately not the case whatsoever with this mobo. I am hoping that if you pros are provided the specifics options presented to me, we can work together to find a workable OC, or at least put it to rest that one will not be possible.
I will attempt to outline the pertinent and/or questionable areas below and present the various options available in this version of American Megatrends BIOS. It is provided in the following format "Option name [(selected option)/ option]".
POWER MANAGEMENT FEATURES:
ACPI Function [(Enabled)/Disabled]
ACPI Standby State [(S1/POS)/ S3POS/ Auto]
PNP/PCI CONFIGURATIONS:
Clear ESCD [(No)/Yes]
Primary Graphics Adapter [(Auto)/PCI Mode]
PCI Latency Timer [32/(64)/96/128]
CELL MENU
Cool'n'Quiet [(Disabled)/Enabled]
Adjust DDR Memory Frequency [(Auto)/Manual (options available 100/133/166/200MHz)]
Ratio Change [(Auto)/ Manual CPU Ratio (options available x5/x6/x7/x8/x9/x10/x11/x12/x13/x14/x15/x16/x17/x18/x19/x20)]
Auto Disable PCI Clock [(Enabled)/Disabled]
Spread Spectrum [(Enabled)/Disabled]
As you can see I am not working with much here. I hope this sets of a little (or big) lightbulb over someone's head. Thanks for your time.
The following is taken from a CPUID CPU-Z Log, I have cut it up to prevent a huge text wall, if you require the full contents please let me know and I will get them to you. You will notice that this particular log is for the current processor in this particular machine and is not the X2.
Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone out there can provide, and to the rest... well I apologize for such a long post.
Best Regards!
-bp-
-------------------------
CPU-Z version 1.51
-------------------------
Processors Map
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 1
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0
Processors Information
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 1 (max 1)
Number of threads 1 (max 1)
Name AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Codename Venice
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Package Socket 939
CPUID F.F.0
Extended CPUID F.2F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH-E3
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 1994.3 MHz (10.0 x 199.4 MHz)
HT Link speed 997.1 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
max FID 10.0x
VID range 1.100 V - 1.450 V
Features XD
K8 Thermal sensor yes
K8 Revision ID 4.0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Chipset
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Northbridge ATI Xpress 200 (RS480) rev. 10
Southbridge ATI SB400 rev. 80
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 3072 MBytes
Channels Single
Memory Frequency 166.2 MHz (CPU/12)
CAS# 2.5
RAS# to CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Cycle Time (tRAS) 7
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 10
DRAM Idle Timer 16
Command Rate 2T
Memory SPD
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DIMM #1
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) (127F000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 133 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 3
RAS# Precharge 2 3 3
TRAS 6 7 8
DIMM #2
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Wintec Industries (7F61000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
DIMM #3
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) (127F000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 133 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 3
RAS# Precharge 2 3 3
TRAS 6 7 8
DIMM #4
General
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Wintec Industries (7F61000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number
Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.0 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 3
RAS# Precharge 3 3
TRAS 7 8
Mainboard Model MS-7191 (0x19F - 0x5F1951)
Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------
Winbond W83627THF hardware monitor
Voltage sensor 0 1.43 Volts [0x97] (CPU VCore)
Voltage sensor 1 12.59 Volts [0xCF] (+12V)
Voltage sensor 2 3.12 Volts [0xC3] (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 3 4.85 Volts [0xB6] (+5V)
Voltage sensor 4 0.67 Volts [0x2A] (VIN2)
Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 40°C (103°F) [0x50] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 14°C (57°F) [0x1C] (VTIN)
Fan sensor 0 1671 RPM [0x65] (FANIN0)
Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------
ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series hardware monitor
Voltage sensor 0 1.01 Volts [0x1] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 55°C (130°F) [0x37] (GPU Core)
Dump hardware monitor
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