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akarainer   07-03-2008 at 02:08:27 AM

I'm aiming for a cheap, yet power Quad-Core, SLI supporting desktop.

APEVIA X-JUPITER-JR S-Type X-JPJST-BK Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811144190

= $70

Intel® Boxed Core 2 Quad Processor Q9450
http://microcenter.com/single_prod [...] id=0287628

= $300

EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188024

= $260

Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV,FCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182032

= $70

EVGA 512-P3-N800-TR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130359

= $160


I don't have allll of the components for building a laptop mentioned here, but these are the major ones. I can find the other ones at a cheap price.

But i just want to ask some people of what they think and, whether this is a pretty good combination..
Since i'm a newbie.. and this is my first build, i will take any comments whatsoever.

Thanks!

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shadowduck   07-03-2008 at 02:12:52 AM
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Nope... negative on this build. Do not build that. nVidia's Intel chipsets are terrible and right now Crossfire owns SLI.

Build this instead:

Q9450
Asus P5Q Pro P45 Motherboard
4850 Video Card
4GB of RAM
PC Power and Cooling 610W PSU.

Problems with what you have:

780i and all nVidia Intel chipsets are loaded with problems and weird issues. Avoid them. Not to mention 4850 smacks 8800GT around at the same price point.

Rosewill's PSU are crap. Avoid it.

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efx92   07-03-2008 at 02:16:00 AM
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If you want to save some money, get a Q6600 and overclock it and you could get a 680i mobo.

 

Don't get a Rosewill PSU, they aren't very good, get Corsair or PC Power & Cooling.

 

With the saved money, you should upgrade to an 8800GTS 512mb.

 

If you need anymore help pick out the other parts just say so. Good luck!
Edit: Shadow got in before me, I would rather go with the build he posted, I was just helping you with the SLI setup but he's right, Crossfire is better than SLI right now with ATI's new cards.


Message edited by efx92 on 07-03-2008 at 02:17:14 AM
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akarainer   07-03-2008 at 02:30:52 AM
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"Asus P5Q Pro P45 Motherboard"

haha. that was actually the mobo i was just looking at, and about to switch to.
but thanks for the heads up on sli and crossfire.

I also have another question. Concerning Hard drives,Cooling fan for the CPU, Sound Card, anything else i need to build a computer.

First for the hard drive.. does it really matter MUCH if i were to use a old or cheap hard drive that probably has about 100-200gb of space for this recommended build? Does it the hard drive speed affect the speed of the computer overall?


Q9450
Asus P5Q Pro P45 Motherboard
4850 Video Card
4GB of RAM
PC Power and Cooling 610W PSU.

For the Cooling fan... I see some people getting them, but is it usually advised to get a different one, compared to use the one that comes with the CPU? (Q9450) Or can i just live without it?

I'm don't really have any experience with sound cards and the rest of the computer components that weren't mentioned. So... if anyone can, could they give me some Cheap, but good brands or links of other components i need?
It'll be greatly appreciated. I'm not planning to buy components that makes a desktop the ultimate media or performance desktop, but i'm just looking at a nice smooth running performance laptop( this doesn't include great sound) I just want it to run FAST for a cheap price. When i mean cheap i mean... less than $1000 or.. i'm trying to aim below that, but if it happens to go above. then i don't really mind it.

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aevm   07-03-2008 at 02:48:38 AM
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Read this thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/253029-31-what-build

They got a really good setup here.

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efx92   07-03-2008 at 02:59:39 AM
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akarainer wrote :

i'm just looking at a nice smooth running performance laptop


You're building a laptop?

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akarainer   07-03-2008 at 03:09:06 AM
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oops desktop =x it's because i was thinking of getting a laptop before.. >.>
What's the difference from

Intel® Boxed Core 2 Quad Processor Q9450
and
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail

people seem to love both of them. Also the Q6600
Which one is most worth its price?

I would assume the Q6600 since it got a lot of awards...


Message edited by akarainer on 07-03-2008 at 03:10:08 AM
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cal8949   07-03-2008 at 03:15:45 AM
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akarainer wrote :

" mean cheap i mean... less than $1000 or.. i'm trying to aim below that, but if it happens to go above. then i don't really mind it.

 

i would go with the q6600 it fits in your budget and oc's good

 

i would get a new hard drive if you dont have a sata 3.0 drive

 

if your looking to oc then get a good after market cpu cooler

 

the core 2 duo e8400 is a great gaming cpu and overclocker. but the q6600 is good for gaming and every thing else you throw at it.

 

the 9450 is a little but better then the 6600 but it might not be in your price range


Message edited by cal8949 on 07-03-2008 at 03:20:44 AM
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shadowduck   07-03-2008 at 03:17:57 AM
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E8400 is a dual core CPU vs 9450 which is a quad core.

If all you are doing is gaming E8400 is more than enough and saves you $100.

Q6600 is $10 more than E8400 but runs warmer (65nm process)

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akarainer   07-03-2008 at 03:26:05 AM
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Alright... I've changed my Build to...

ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card


PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V Power Supply 100

Antec Nine Hundred 9-Bay Midtower Ultimate Gamer Case

SAMSUNG Black 20X

Intel® Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 OEM

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

150+195(2)+115+88+29+200+27+44 = $1043

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efx92   07-03-2008 at 04:11:42 AM
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Don't forget to get some thermal compound, I like Arctic Cooling MX-2 the best.
I would get a bigger hard drive especially one with more cache like 16 or 32mb of cache, if you can afford it.

Overall it looks like it's going to be a good build.

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akarainer   07-03-2008 at 04:13:42 AM
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efx92 wrote :

Don't forget to get some thermal compound, I like Arctic Cooling MX-2 the best.
I would get a bigger hard drive especially one with more cache like 16 or 32mb of cache, if you can afford it.

Overall it looks like it's going to be a good build.



Is it really necessary? o.x i... barely use up any space.. so i would be wasting a lot of space if i were to get a bigger hard drive.

Also is there any recommendations on sound cards?

Oh.. also i see some people with the same build, but better processors and video cards. I'm planning to crossfire.. so would i need to get a 750W PS or... is it alright with the 610W


Message edited by akarainer on 07-03-2008 at 04:15:53 AM
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efx92   07-03-2008 at 04:15:44 AM
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Ok, well you don't have to get one with more hard drive space just upgrade to like 16mb cache, it won't cost that much.
Don't get a sound card unless you have expensive surround sound speakers.

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