Hello all. I am about to build a new system and I wanted to make sure that all of the parts work well together. Can you all please look at the parts and make sure they are compatible? Thank you very much.
You asked for it For the same $$ you should get a better power supply like OCZ.Enermax.Pc power,Antec,etc go for at least 600w that will give you a fair amount of future proofing.
And why not go for the Acer 22',your 8800 will love it and will easily push most games at the monitors native rez of 1680x1050,I know 'cause that's what I'm pushing with my 8800gt on the 22' Acer.. AS for the rest of your choices A ok,,except that one reviewer stared that it [the case]was a bit of a tight fit for their 8800,so then other than the above,which is of course your choice,,PULL THE TRIGGER,,in any event ,,ENJOY..
Optical: You might as well get a SATA drive. IDE cables are cumbersome.
Case: A matter of personal preference, but I think this is a little more sensible. Having the USB ports on the top is nice if the tower sits on the floor
HDD: Dude, get a bigger hard drive. Seriously, this should be the bare minimum.
LCD: Sorry, can't help you there
Motherboard: Besides the fact that that's an ancient chipset, NVIDIA boards tend to have... issues. They also lock you into SLI, which is not something you want to be doing right now. The GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L would be a sensible choice right now.
PSU: Not such a good choice there. An Antec earthwatts EA430 would be good if you don't think you'll ever go Crossfire, and the Antec NeoPower 650 will satisfy all your 4850 Crossfire needs for a great price.
Keyboard: Whatever
Thermal Compound: I think that'll do. There are probably better options out there at that price, but I use some cheapo MASSCOOL stuff and it has never let me down. I'm not an -extreme- overclocker though
RAM: I really recommend 4GB at this point. I run this kit and it rocks hard.
CPU: OMG I just realized you were doing an AMD build .
Core 2 Duo E7200
1. If you are going to go 64bit you should run 4gb of ram
2. What is your budget? That always helps reveiwers make suggestions that are reasonable in comparison to what you are trying to accomplish. i.e: I have a budget of $800 (for everything, monitor keyboard etc) and I want to use this for gaming.
Other than that I would take homerdogs advice. Worst case scanario wait until you have a little more money to build a more complete system.
Message edited by mexpedip on 07-03-2008 at 05:36:30 PM
dokk2: Well, to be honest, I have never really liked a monitor bigger than 19". Just personal preference I guess.
homerdog & mexpedip: Well to be honest, my budget is very tight (about 1150). I play a few games (sins of a solar empire, oblivion, WOW) but I mainly need a reliable comp since I am about to start school. I am not the type of gamer that has to have the best or make all of the new adjustments to my system. I just want something that will work and work well. I do want to play the games that I mentioned and hopefully at the highest graphical settings but it isn't a need.
I'm also very pleased with XP at the moment, but in the future I would like to do a dual boot with Vista.
Also the HDD is small so I can just get started. In the future, I am going to get a lot more memory storage.
With this in mind, if you all have any more suggestions, feel free to run them by me!
atrian: I do like that monitor...I must have to reconsider hehe
For some odd reason, I really like that ergonomic design. Hmm...
I have used AMD products for years. Haven't had any problems so I'd like to stay with them for now. Intel processors do look great and I might just use them for my next build. But for now, I believe I'll be going for AMD (even though some might give no slack for that )
Optical: You might as well get a SATA drive. IDE cables are cumbersome.
Case: A matter of personal preference, but I think this is a little more sensible. Having the USB ports on the top is nice if the tower sits on the floor
HDD: Dude, get a bigger hard drive. Seriously, this should be the bare minimum.
LCD: Sorry, can't help you there
Motherboard: Besides the fact that that's an ancient chipset, NVIDIA boards tend to have... issues. They also lock you into SLI, which is not something you want to be doing right now. The GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L would be a sensible choice right now.
PSU: Not such a good choice there. An Antec earthwatts EA430 would be good if you don't think you'll ever go Crossfire, and the Antec NeoPower 650 will satisfy all your 4850 Crossfire needs for a great price.
Keyboard: Whatever
Thermal Compound: I think that'll do. There are probably better options out there at that price, but I use some cheapo MASSCOOL stuff and it has never let me down. I'm not an -extreme- overclocker though
RAM: I really recommend 4GB at this point. I run this kit and it rocks hard.
CPU: OMG I just realized you were doing an AMD build . Core 2 Duo E7200
So I may have busted your budget, but I think you would be wise to save up until you can afford to make the changes I have suggested. Good luck
Agreed! Well said. (Although I prefer XP x64 over Vista x64), homerdog has very good list. Also if planing to do some OCing get a good HSF. The XIGMATEK S1283 is on the top 3 air coolers and it's only $36. If going with the P35-DS3L don't forget to check out the P35-DS3L OCing guide.
With your budget of $1150 you can have a Intel system that pwns most/all the AMD builds. (Q6600 vs Phenom, and E7200/E8400 vs X2/Phenom)
Message edited by Shadow703793 on 07-03-2008 at 07:15:36 PM
^Here here, there's nothing like having a good OCing guide to make the process go smoothly. I wonder how similar the P45-DS3L is to the most excellent P35 version?
^Here here, there's nothing like having a good OCing guide to make the process go smoothly. I wonder how similar the P45-DS3L is to the most excellent P35 version?
By looking at how the P45s on MSI,ASUS,etc boards OC I would guess that it would be an excellent replacement for P35. And should OC very easily some times better than X38!
By looking at how the P45s on MSI,ASUS,etc boards OC I would guess that it would be an excellent replacement for P35. And should OC very easily some times better than X38!
Heck I've even heard of the P45 outclassing the X48 in shear overclocking might. The 65nm shrink seems to have payed off.
@ PeskyPesky: I don't think my proposed build is much over $1150. Actually with the EA430 it comes out to $1,040.88 before shipping, $1,078.25 after to my zip code. You could throw in the NeoPower 650 and still be under budget!
For reference your original build was $982.88 before shipping, $1,015.61 after. Spend the extra, it's well worth it.
Well, I have the misfortune of living in Tennessee, which Newegg taxes pretty bad (for the order, 100 of it will be tax and another 60-70 will be for shipping)...that's why my original order was 982.88
So will all of these parts work together? I'm just wanting to make sure since I once paid 1000 dollars on parts for a system and none of the parts were compatible..(intel cpu with an amd motherboard, pci express card with an agp-based motherboard...noob mistake I guess).
I like xp over vista (at least for now) and for some reason I have always favored AMD. But I do thank you for recommending that optical drive because I am going to go with that now.
If anyone can, please tell me if all of these parts are compatible. Also, will I be able to play games like sins of a solar empire, oblivion, WOW, and others? If possible, I'd like to play them at the highest settings.
What is the difference between pci express and pci express 2.0? Will a pci express 2.0 card work on a regular pci express board?
@ If anyone can, please tell me if all of these parts are compatible. Also, will I be able to play games like sins of a solar empire, oblivion, WOW, and others? If possible, I'd like to play them at the highest settings....I was talking about the setup in my first post. Just a clarification
I have that exact model 8800GT and it used to be paired with a S939 Athlon X2 3800+ overclocked to 2.5GHz. I have never played WoW but I'm sure it'll run fine maxed.
Sins of a Solar Empire (GREAT game) gave me some problems on large maps when a lot was going on. It was a CPU bottleneck. My current setup (Core 2 Duo E6750@3.2GHz) has no issues.
Oblivion ran good maxed with Qarl's Texture Pack 3 at 1440x900 with 4xAA most of the time with the occasional drastic slowdown. I hear the HD4850 absolutely kills in Oblivion with QTP3.
I was looking this list over and I had a few more questions.
My motherboard under "supported cpus" it says the FSB is 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 Mt/s) but the cpu I picked says that the Hyper Transports are 2000 MHz. Will my motherboard bottleneck my cpu? Do I need to pick a new one?
The monitors DVI input will fit directly into the video card right?
The dvd/cd drive is in SATA format. Will that connect in one of the 4 SATA 3GB/s connections in the motherboard?
My motherboard under "supported cpus" it says the FSB is 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 Mt/s) but the cpu I picked says that the Hyper Transports are 2000 MHz. Will my motherboard bottleneck my cpu? Do I need to pick a new one?
The HT link is 1000MHZ bidirectional = 2000MHz. It's just a different way of labeling it.
Is this better? Do you think it will last me longer and give me better performance than my previous setup? If there are anythings that I have missed or that you feel that I should include, please tell me!
You will be better off with 4GB RAM than 2GB RAM. Also the speed difference between DDR2 800 vs. DDR2 1066 is not noticeable in real life performance.
Also swap the PSU. The Rosewill PSUs are cr@p.
Get this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139003 Corsair 450VX $60 after MIR. This PSU is MUCH better than the Rosewill. (Remember Watts do not equal quality!). I recommend you get Corsair and PP&C PSUs.
You will be wasting a 8800GTX/9800GTX/4870 as the max resolution for that LCD is 1440 x 900. You can even consider a 8800GS for that resolution depending on what games you play.
Message edited by Shadow703793 on 07-04-2008 at 09:25:21 PM
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