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[b]I want to modify my system to reduce processing time for photo edits. I have a goal of 25% reduction in the time to convert a set of RAW format files to TIFF. Currently, it can take longer than one hour to process 60 photos. The problem has become worse as I have moved from shooting in jpeg format to RAW format, and as I have moved up from a 6 MP camera to a 12 MP camera.

I currently have an Asus P5B with an Intel E6600 and 4 GB of Corsair XMS-6400, all at stock conditions. I am using Vista 64.

This time, I would like to overclock moderately -- enough to boost speed but not enough to effect stability or reduce life below 3 years.

I would like your input on the following choices, are based upon my investigation to-date, and upon a desire to find a good price-performance balance. I need support for SATA, RAID, Firewire, and easy over-clock. SLI is not necessary. I would like to keep under $600, but am willing to spend a bit more for added performance.

CPU: Intel E8500 ($250)
Asus P5K Pro ($105)
4 x 2Gb Corsair Twin 2X4096-8500 ($192)

I also plan to update my GPU, so that I can run two monitors:
Asus EN 8600 GTS

I plan to retain my other components. Your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

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Photo editing? A OCed q6600 quad core will be real fast.
Try the new P45 board instead of the P35
Also, you dont need to buy anymore ram you have enough. Are they DDR2-800?

 

Also, get a 4850 for awesome graphics performance for cheap.


Message edited by sogangsta on 07-03-2008 at 08:02:14 PM
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The bottleneck for batch processing is the hard drive. The fastest option would be to RAID 0 two SSD drives, with the velociRaptor close behind.

 

A quad core will NOT help. Photoshop needs speed, not 4 cores.


Message edited by DXRick on 07-03-2008 at 08:10:09 PM
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Indeed, the CPU benchmark for Photoshop shows much better performance for the E8500 vs the Q6600. Doesn't the L2 size also impact speed for photo editing? Is there a point of dimishing return (e.g. larger L2 does not help much more)?

Even the edits on a single photo can take several seconds, especially when I crank up the sharpness. Would this be more limited by the processor speed or by hard drive R/W speed?

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Current Versions of PhotoShop only use 2 Cores but the next version is supposed to be able to take advantage of many more. Have you used Task Manager to watch your CPU load while converting these files. You didn't say what HDD you have and you may need to feed the CPU with a RAID 0+1 Array to get enough thoughput and keep a reliable backup (I am assuming that these pictures are very import, perhaps you livelyhood if you are taking that many).

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I have two WD 250 GB SATA in RAID mirror (can't remember if mirroring is RAID 0 or RAID 1). I need the mirroring for security of the photo files. I suppose that I could add two more 250's and reconfigure to both mirror and strip (RAID 5?, or is it RAID 10??)

Indeed, I have a CPU monitor on mysidebar, and it regularily tops out during certain editing tasks, such as adjustment of sharpness. I have not checked it when I am batching processing, but will do so this evening.

Most of my editing is done using Nikon Capture NX2, which I believe should behave similar to CS2 with respect to demand on the computing resources. CS2 has more capability that Capture NX, but I can make use of the additional capability only on ~5% of my shots. I find Capture NX to be more than adequate for most of my shots, and it is easier to use.

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You should easily be able to get a 25 - 50% boost in performance by overclocking your E6600. All you need is a good aftermarket heatsink. The best is the TRUE120. You should be able to reach 3.4-3.6ghz with it. IMO, unless you are upgrading to a quad core, it's not worth it. And since Photoshop doesn't currently fully utilize a quad, it's not worth it. So, just overclock the E6600 and you should be happy with the results.

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1. Get a Q6600 along with possibly a new P45 motherboard like the P45-DS3L. Photoshop will benefit more from the 2 extra cores usualy when working with large images than raw speed. More gain if you OC the Q6600 to ~3+Ghz. (If OCing don't forget a good HSF like the XIGMATEK S1283.). Also the next version of Photoshop (CS4 aka Stonehinge) is said to have multi threading support up to 6 threads. You can decide the Dual vs. Quad your self.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core2quad-q9300/t2.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] q9300.html

 

Looking at it Photoshop benefits from the Quad, while After Effects benefit from the Dual.

 

2. Get a 2*7200.11 HDDs in RAID or a single 10kRPM drive like the old WD Raptor.

 

3. Get AT LEAST 4GB RAM. 8GB is a better choice. Also don't forget to optimize our pagefile if going with 3.5GB+ RAM. Also be careful with DDR2 1066 RAM, the 1066 RAM are known to have compatibility issues. Stick with DDR2 800 for now.

 

4. Get a 8800GS instead of the 8600GT, they are both about the same price most of the time or the 8800GS is only a few $ more. You can get a 8800GS for ~$80 on newegg after MIR.

 


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You have a point -- 25% OC's on E6600 seems relatively common and easy to achieve. Wouldn't my Big Typhoon be adequate for cooling? I don't often check my temps, but they have never been much above 45.

Let's say I want to get more than 25%. What is a reasonable OC on an E8500?

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Thx Shadow. Is the 8800GS force ventilated? I prefer passive cooling to cut noise, and I really don't need the extra GPU speed as I am not editing video or playing games. I do need two DVI outputs and prefer to have a single card -- hence the 8600GT. The Asus 8600GT is $60 at NewEgg after rebate.

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Thx all for your feedback. With some additional research, here is what I have concluded:

- I will install the E8500 with an overclock targeting for 3.8 Mhz. This should roughly give me a 50% improvement in performance. I have the money for the upgrade, and the greater improvement is compelling.

- I will do some testing on my HD R/W performance on my current system, in order to evaluate the need to go with RAID stripping and/or a faster HDD. I had not considered this factor, and indeed it may be a bottleneck in my system.

- I will add the Noctuna NH-U 12 to my kit. This seems to be a fairly well rated cooler, and it will give my peace of mind when overclocking the E8500.

- I will do a bit more checking on the MoBo and the DDR2 1066 RAM. I want something that will give me the full value for the computing power of the E8500, but I really don't want to pay for extra features that I won't use (like SLI). And, I am concerned about compatibility of the 1066 RAM.

Thanks to all for your input!

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I read this after my first post above:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] =3344&p=12

At stock speeds the Q9450 outperforms the E8500 with CS3. I have no idea if this would be so with NX.

I am a D200 owner that uses CS2 to edit and adjust my RAW files one at a time. I have read a lot of complaints about the speed of NX2 here:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039

Reply to DXRick

ExquisitlyBad wrote :

Thx Shadow. Is the 8800GS force ventilated? I prefer passive cooling to cut noise, and I really don't need the extra GPU speed as I am not editing video or playing games. I do need two DVI outputs and prefer to have a single card -- hence the 8600GT. The Asus 8600GT is $60 at NewEgg after rebate.


In that case a 8600GT should be fine. The 8800GS isn't a dual slot cooling. Also the 8800GS has 2 DVI ports so you can run 2 LCDs.


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Maybe a bit late but here anyway:



Load the stuff in your RAM (buy more RAM) and use a RAM disk. http://www.superspeed.com/ramdisk.php

Result? The full conversion will be done on your mobo and not disk. A small test on a machine i have showed random read and write at 2 GB/s.

After conversion, copy the files to a regular disk.

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