Athon x2 6000 paired up with 4870?

[rbanas3]

Just wondering if anyone is running this combination and what your benchmarks are. I upgraded from a 4850 and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference in performance. My 3dmark 06 score is around 10500. That seems to be kind of slow for that card. Only a few more hundred than my 4850. My system is a new build. I'm thinking my psu is not up to par. Its a Thermaltake TR2 RX W0134RU 550W ATX12V Ver2.2 NVIDIA SLI Modular Cabling Passive PFC PFC Power Supply - Retail. My system randomly locks up after startup once in a while. I did a fresh windows intall with XP Pro. My M.b. is Gigabyte GA-M57sli-s4. It does not have pci express 2. I run everything on 22" monitor maxed out- 1680x1050. I ony have to games intalled at this time. Crysis running at high settings it get an average of 30.573 fps. my low fps is 6- using Fraps. I don't get that. She bogs down in explosions our alot of intense action. Oblivion is my other game and I get stuttering quite a bit. I have 2 gig of pc2 6400 Kingston ram. I tried different catalyst versions as well as the current 8.8. and I still have the same issues. I'm hoping it's just the psu and I will just switch that out with a better one. Also, my athlon x2 6000 does not want to overclock at all which seems strange even with stock cooling. My case is a RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case. There's plenty of cooling in that case. GPU idles at 50 with fan fix. CPU idles around 45 with stock cooling.

 

[epsilon84]

Looks like you're CPU bound...

Theres not much you can do if your CPU refuses to overclock, though I highly doubt its a CPU problem, it'll be down to the mobo or the BIOS I'd say. I'm not familiar with your particular mobo so I can't really help there, sorry.

PS. Learn to use paragraphs, my eyes hurt.

 

[modtech]

Was that 3dmark score at 1680x1050? You should do it at default settings (1280x1024). At any rate that CPU is definitely and seriously bottlenecking the 4870. You should have upgraded your cpu platform instead of that worthless gpu upgrade.

 

[rbanas3]

I'm running 3dmark 06 at default settings. I know the CPU isn't the ideal choice, but I figured it would'nt bottleneck it that much. I'm thinking of ditching the mobo and cpu and getting a Q6600 with an Asus P5Q Pro mobo and a Corsair CMPSU -750tx psu.

 

[atomicWAR]

sounds like a better plan then your first one..

 

[jivdis1x]

*Hint*
If PC is under power, the PC will random restarts and BSOD.

 

[speedbird]

My last gaming computer was running an AMD X2 4400+ X2 2.2Ghz that started struggling in games. I'm now running a faster Intel Quad Core Computer, but with the same GFX card and now my games are very smooth. The CPU can have a huge impact on gaming performance, depending on the Game Title ofcourse

I realize your 6000+ X2 is not the fastest Dual Core, but I always thought it should be capable in today's applications

 

[xx12amanxx]

The 6000+ is more than capable of playing all todays games. And with the OCed thing it may be your motherboard. Seeing as i got my 6000+ to 3.3ghz with an arctic freezer 64 pro. I got it to 3.1 with the stock heatsink.

 

[ainarssems]

I am running X2 4200 @ 2.42GHz and 8800 GTX and it handles most games on max settings with ease. Exception here is NFS Pro Speed but it is poorly optimized. Also GRID has 100% CPU usage all the time but it is not lagging always over 30 fps. Of course I cannot max out Crysis but that is different story as 8800GTX is holding me back CPU usage is only 60-70 %

 

[ohiou_grad_06]

To the op, I think I have the same mobo as you have, and if I'm not mistaken if you are interested in overclocking, whenever you enter the bios, hit control f1 and it should open up more overclocking options for you, if you've got the board I think you do.

 

[speedbird]

. Exception here is NFS Pro Speed but it is poorly optimized

ProStreet runs terrible on machine, which shouldn't happen with my spec. I agree it's poorly optimized, which is typical of EA as most of their games are Bugged.

 

[LeonRa]

Just wondering if anyone is running this combination and what your benchmarks are. I upgraded from a 4850 and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference in performance. My 3dmark 06 score is around 10500. That seems to be kind of slow for that card. Only a few more hundred than my 4850. My system is a new build. I'm thinking my psu is not up to par. Its a Thermaltake TR2 RX W0134RU 550W ATX12V Ver2.2 NVIDIA SLI Modular Cabling Passive PFC PFC Power Supply - Retail. My system randomly locks up after startup once in a while. I did a fresh windows intall with XP Pro. My M.b. is Gigabyte GA-M57sli-s4. It does not have pci express 2. I run everything on 22" monitor maxed out- 1680x1050. I ony have to games intalled at this time. Crysis running at high settings it get an average of 30.573 fps. my low fps is 6- using Fraps. I don't get that. She bogs down in explosions our alot of intense action. Oblivion is my other game and I get stuttering quite a bit. I have 2 gig of pc2 6400 Kingston ram. I tried different catalyst versions as well as the current 8.8. and I still have the same issues. I'm hoping it's just the psu and I will just switch that out with a better one. Also, my athlon x2 6000 does not want to overclock at all which seems strange even with stock cooling. My case is a RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case. There's plenty of cooling in that case. GPU idles at 50 with fan fix. CPU idles around 45 with stock cooling.

I have a similar problem, my score is 10700 with 5600+ and i was wondering why. I posted the same question and the answer was the card is cpu bound. Get the new mobo and cpu and i think you'll see the true potential of the card. I plan to change the mobo and cpu but in october. If u change them please post the new results. ( and u might want to check the psu, too)

P.S. My mobo is gigabyte ga-ma770- ds3.

 

[Nik_I]

you're definitely being limited by the cpu. although i dont really understand why you upgraded from a 4850 to a 4870. upgrading from an athlon x2 to a phenom would have been a far better and more cost-effective upgrade.

 

[the last resort]

i dont see how he could be CPU bound. Im running a 6000+ and 4850, and I'm no where near CPU bound. The 7600Gt i had before sucked, but the 4850 is a huge improvement.

 

[ozwald56]

you're definitely being limited by the cpu. although i dont really understand why you upgraded from a 4850 to a 4870. upgrading from an athlon x2 to a phenom would have been a far better and more cost-effective upgrade.

Not for games it wouldn't be.

 

[jitpublisher]

I have no idea why so many here are jumping to the conclusion that your processor is somehow vastly to blame, it's not. It's not a overclocked Intel Quad Extreme, but it is still plenty of processor for gaming, and a lot of other things as well. The Intel Quads will do much better in the CPU tests of 3dmark, and raise your score considerably. However, in the real world, that doesn't get you hugely better gameplay.

Although, there appears something might be amiss with your setup.

You are running in your monitors native resolution when testing, right?

I have a Socket 939 4600x2 running at 2.8ghz, and a 8800gts 512 GPU that is clocked at 750mhz core, it will do a little over 10K in 3dmark 06.
For a 6000+ and a 4870, I would expect a little better?
I would think you should at least hit in the upper 11's or low 12's.

 

[rbanas3]

The reason I upgraded from a 4850 is because I was able to bring it back to the store and get a full refund and pay another $79.00 for the 4870. I run my monitor at native resolution. I'm thinking my psu is on the weak side. It has two 12v. rails totaling 33amps. I'm not sure what the 4870 requires to operate smoothly as far as amps. Iv'e been wondering if that could be an issue.

 

[epsilon84]

Not for games it wouldn't be.

Yes it would.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/

Granted, the X2 in the article is clocked at 2.5GHz, not 3GHz like the OPs 6000+, but even at 3GHz it wouldn't come close to bridging the gap between it and the Phenoms. That was tested on a 8800 Ultra too, so on a HD4870 the bottlenecking would be even worse.

 

[ozwald56]

Yes it would.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/

Granted, the X2 in the article is clocked at 2.5GHz, not 3GHz like the OPs 6000+, but even at 3GHz it wouldn't come close to bridging the gap between it and the Phenoms. That was tested on a 8800 Ultra too, so on a HD4870 the bottlenecking would be even worse.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/spider-weaves-web,1728-21.html

 

[epsilon84]

Those are pretty old games they used for testing, most are 2 - 3 years old, some even older I think. Its also comparing a 3.2GHz X2 to a 2.3GHz Phenom, but the OP has a 3GHz X2 (which apparently doesn't wanna overclock), and Phenoms are clocked up to 2.6GHz now.

Still, interesting data point, so it appears Phenom performs better on the newer games but worse on the older games. Thats probably a good thing, considering newer games will need the extra performance the most.