Amd question

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so a phenom 4ghz = intel ?

The guy in the last picture won the 40 Kg mens weightlifting at the Olympics right??

Great overclock ... but like all LN rigs ... useless in the real world.

Can't see any of us playing crisis on it ... unless you have a PA monitoring the LN feed into the "cauldren of death".

This is the fastest OC Phenom to date. Core 2 Quads beat the Phenom clock for clock and the best is around 6-ish GHz

This guy is using liquid nitrogen. Kinda hard to find don't ya think?

To tell the truth, I'd be happy enough with a 2950 BE at 3.2ghz, or even at 3.0ghz. Realistically, except for a very few things, like benchmarking, bragging rights and an extremely few number of games and sims, anything over 3ghz is pretty much wasted. I'm more interested in having more SB750 mobos on the market.

The fact that it takes liquid nitrogen to reach a clock speed that is surpassed by Intel processors using air-cooling... don't you think that speaks poorly of AMD processors? What? Are they going to run giant ads saying "WE ARE JUST AS FAST AS INTEL" and then have a little disclaimer at the bottom saying "when AMD processors are overclocked and cooled with liquid nitrogen and Intel processors are run at stock speeds" My X2-4400+ was absolutely awesome back in the day... but come on... how is this supposed to impress me?

This reminds me of a story sometime ago, about a Pentium 4 being pushed to 8Ghz. These High clock speeds are irrelevant for everyday users, but it's interesting to know they have achieved such a clockspeed on the AMD Phenom, which up to now has been considered a terrible overclocker

Speedbird, intel stated that the pentium 4 would scale to a clock speed of 10Ghz for normal desktop use (I.E aircooling, the same low-power requirements) But as it turned out even getting to clocks that high didnt show much performance gains over chips clocked at half the speed, which had small gains over the pentium 3's. Those P4's also had to double the clock speed to match AMD64. They could have made 8ghz deployment practical, but it still would have sucked.

No, LN cooling doesn't matter, beyond purposes of overclocking records and synthetic benchmarking records which are largely useless to begin with, they never have, never will. Liquid and phase change cooling overclocks are actually repeatable in real world settings, LN is just "freeze the cpu, jack the voltage up as high as it goes and look at the big numbers before the silicon melts.

Besides the fact that higher temps and voltages change the thermal resistence of electrical pathways you start seeing dimishing returns in performance the higher the clock gets. Actually those things are directly related.

Since they were able to drop dual core power consumption down from 125w to 65w with essentially just a die shrink now down to 45w, and 65nm Amd quads are already available at 65w desktop, 55w/75w server...i'm sure you'd say alot of things. It doesn't make them anymore than a guess based on faulty conclusions and incorrect information.

I have my 9850 at 3.52ghz, with air cooling using a 790fx chipset, there's alot to be said for replacing stock heatsinks on the motherboard and making sure the mosfets are cooled as well as the NB/SB and cpu.

I would say the nehalem isn't shaping up to do to well in gaming performance...but than again, there is actually evidence to back up that statement. There is nothing worse than a clueless intel fanboy trying to pass themself off as unbiased.