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Kevin's future PC!!

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July 5, 2008 10:30:08 PM

Hey guys heres my layout for a new comp check it out see what you think suggestions and feedback are welcome this is my first time building my own computer. :D  :D 
one question tho, should i go with the q6600 or e8400?
i read that clock speed is more important in gaming (ie. COD4 TF2 Assassin's Creed. middle level gaming not crysis high setting level) but more cores means faster apps run. I think im gonna do a bit of both but im probably going to be gaming more so should i go with the e8400? that's cheaper than the q6600 but i want some imput. i WILL be ocing the CPU and RAM to get better performance but not sure about the video card though.
:D  :D 
thanks


CPU:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO:
ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $136.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HSF:
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - $32.00 (IM NOT SURE WHAT OTHER HSF ARE GOOD SO WENT WITH THIS REVIEWS HAS BEEN GOOD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Graphics Card:
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $194.00 (WASNT SURE WHICH COMPANY MADE BETTER ONES)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HD:
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Optical:
Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DVR-115DBK - $33
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Sound Card:
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - $91
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $120 (OTHER SUGGESTION?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:
SILVERSTONE DECATHLON DA650 650W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V Power Supply - $160 (OVERKILL? need so much watts?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Aftermarket Case Fan:
qty. 3
AeroCool XtremeTurbine-Black 120mm Case Fan - $15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Moniter:
SAMSUNG 225UW High-gloss Piano Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ 2.0M Pixel Web Cam 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers - $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Mouse/Keyboard:
I dont know gaming one probably.

TOTAL - $1600


Anyways, that's my layout guys please give me some feedback/comments/suggestions on what I can do to minimize or improve on my build.
I'm more of a Nvidia fan, but the 4850 is just too good of a deal to pass out on.

Thanks for looking and helping!! :D  :D 

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July 5, 2008 11:18:11 PM

Too bad you may not live near Fry's electronics. They have the sonata III case with 500w ps for only $50 after rebate until tomorrow. They also have the antec 900 case only for $75 (no rebate). I would go for pc6400 ram, which is cheaper, and the e8400. I think you could also save on the monitor and power supply by shopping around. Fry's.com has crucial ballistix pc6400 (2 gigs) for $17 after rebate with free shipping. Buy 4 sticks and it's $54 after rebate. I would skip the soundcard and use onboard sound and use the money saved for better speakers. I use a starlogic monitor from officemax ($180 for 20 inch) and it's been working great for over a year now.
July 5, 2008 11:19:48 PM

If you're mostly gaming the E8400 is a better choice than the Q6600. A year or two from now the Q6600 will be better in games too. It depends on how long you will keep this CPU, I guess. If it's for 3 years or more get the Q6600.

Get a GA-EX38-DS4 or GA-X48-DS4 motherboard, that will work well with even two of those HD 4850 cards. Also, get a 750TX PSU or Silencer 750W, they are top quality and cheaper than that Silverstone and more powerful.

The Freezer is a good cooler, bit if you want a really good overclock you should get a Xigmatek HDT-S1283. Also get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233019&Tpk=xigmatek%2bretention

Drop the WD5000AAKS and get the WD6400AAKS instead. it's much faster.

Drop the IDE burner and get a SH-S203B instead. That way you don't have a wide cable hurting cooling and jumpers to worry about.

If you overclock the HD 4850 get this cooler for it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106112&Tpk=Thermaltake%2bCL-G0102%2bVGA%2bCooler
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July 5, 2008 11:28:35 PM

@o1die: i do live near a frys i might check it out for the case

@aevm: im think to upgrade every 18months so i think im gonna go with the e8400 then. if i oc my vid card i need to have separate cooler for that too?! damn... i see why i have to upgrade my HD and that HSF looks good. I had no idea what kind of PSU i was looking for so i just picked silverstone. I'll check out the items you suggested.

thanks!
July 5, 2008 11:31:41 PM

The fry's memory is already sold out, but they have other deals. Newegg is a great vender, but I would shop around and possibly split up your order.
July 5, 2008 11:38:09 PM

It's usually a good idea to see how good the onboard sound is before getting the audio card. It may be fine for what you want and you can always buy it and plug it in later. Make sure the drivers are up to date, Creative is still having problems with Vista
July 5, 2008 11:43:48 PM

i will probably see how the onboard sound card is before purchasing and external

frys always has good deals and i get extra discount because my friend works there.
July 6, 2008 12:56:38 AM

Here is what I would change:

1) I would get GA-EP45-DS3L for a motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128345

Reason: a) Newer P45 chipset/northbridge.
b) It's cheaper then the Asus you choose. (I would never use WIFI on a gaming rig. Just to much lag. Secondly, you will probably never crossfire it. Even if you did, you lose performance if you don't have a expensive X48 motherboard. Thirdly, it doesn't have firewire......but who the hell uses firewire now a days. Even if you needed firewire latter on, you can pick up a firewire card for $20)
Gigabyte has lately been making kickass motherboards.)
c) Gigabyte has been making kickass motherboards lately (great overclockers)

2) I would get a PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005

Reason: a) They make amazingly good PSU.
b) It's cheaper.

By doing those 2 switches, it will save you $113

With the $113 saved, I would then upgrade the CPU to this:

Q9450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This was you get a nice cool overclocker like the 8400, with the benefits of having a quad core.





July 6, 2008 3:38:02 AM

^^
All great suggestions from babybudha, for a PC with a single video card.

Kevin, if you want two video cards get the MB & PSU I recommended instead.

With two video cards, you would pay about $350 more (better MB, better PSU, second HD 4850), and you'd get something like 30% more fps in Crysis or 80% more fps in CoD and so on. That is, Crossfire does wonders in some games and not much in others. Your decision. Maybe you should do some research before deciding.

The HD 4850 can be overclocked even if you don't buy an aftermarket cooler, but less. It's already pretty hot as it is, with the stock cooler. They gave it a single-slot cooler, which doesn't have a vent to push the heat directly out of the case.
July 6, 2008 6:34:29 AM

I know all very good suggestions and i did some more research on overclocking and they said cooling was the most important aspect.

I think im gonna go all out with this computer though, because I think that if I make it very good now i wont need to upgrade it in 18months, maybe in 2 years instead.

I think im going to go with the dual vid cards so only the x48 supports 2 PCI Express 2.0 x16.

the 720w but is that enough for all that overclocking? i know the minimum requirements for the vid card is 500w but if i overclock will i need more?

i went with 4870 dual so thats even more money. I think i went over 2k there for the whole thing w/ new moniter. without its 300 less. that's still quite good deal i think.

July 6, 2008 6:54:45 AM

I'm thinking your original total already seems pretty high. Since you're getting aftermarket cooling, go for the OEM Q6600 and save $20. You can definitely find cheaper RAM than that too. I'm going to soon be ordering 4 GB (2x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR2 1066 for $85 after MIR, so you could save another $51 there. If you still go with the 4850, notice that you can get it for $15 cheaper than what you listed ($170 after MIR). Like others said, wait on the sound card as well.

Everything I said adds up to $177 in savings. Since you want X48 for future Crossfire, go with something like the Asus P5E Deluxe. Only $50 more than the board you're getting now. 177-50 still = 127 in savings, so put that towards a 4870 and you're good to go.

Same price, but with a 4870, good OCing with that board from what I've gathered (I'm looking to order it soon myself), and the chance for 16x + 16x Crossfire later on.
July 6, 2008 7:26:04 AM

so you saying get the asus board instead of the x48?
July 6, 2008 8:12:12 PM

He said P5E Deluxe. That's an X48. It's a good choice. If you prefer Gigabyte to Asus get the GA-X48-DS4. Those are the best choices I can see at newegg right now. There are a few other good ones but they cost around $300.
July 7, 2008 12:12:57 AM

ohh x48 is a model and the asus and gigabyte are just brands that produce it i get it loll

um also i've been looking around for cases but the good ones with good ventilation are like 200+ dollars! i need something around 50-150 dollars with good air flow. know any?
July 7, 2008 12:23:43 AM

CoolerMaster RC-690
Antec 900

The RC-690 costs about $100 at newegg right now with shipping. If you want you can add a couple of S-Flex fans for another $40 or $60 and get some serious cooling there. It's already very good even if you don't add any fans.
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