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Phenom II X2 550 turns into a Phenom II X4 B50

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a b K Overclocking
July 10, 2009 11:15:16 PM

I got a phenom II X2 550, a gigabyte GA MA770T UD3P mobo, 4 GB G.Skill DDR3 1333Mhz ram, and a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics card for my new build. Having read about the numerous successes of unlocking cores, I really wanted to do it. But I had fears of breaking the processor or motherboard, Yet I still did it the same day I built the PC. I updated the bios to the f2c version, went into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (in the bios) changed EC Firmware Selection to hybrid, and set the ACC to auto. Then I saved the settings and exited. A message flashed that said "UPDATING EC FIRMWARE, DON'T TURN OFF OR RESET SYSTEM!" Then the computer turned off and after about 5 seconds turned back on. Windows 7 and XP both said that the processor was a Phenom II X4 B50, and so did any other program or utility like CPU-Z. Windows 7 gave it a score of 7.3 and as a dual core it was 6.5 I ran 3DMark 06 and it gave the processor a score of 4730. As a dual core 3DMark gave it a score of 2674. So when all 4 cores where unlocked it was working almost twice as good. It was Prime95 Stable and overclocking this thing was a breeze because it's a black edition and has an unlocked Multiplier. But be sure to get a good cooler if you plan on overclocking it.

(The scores above were all tested on stock speed 3.1Ghz, when I overclocked this CPU the scores were soaring higher than the sky.)

Conclusion: I bought this CPU for $102.99, but the performance I got in the end was worth way more than that. I basically got a phenom II quad core black edition! For the price this is the best CPU you can get!
July 14, 2009 10:30:18 AM

hey there, what is the batch number on your CPU? eg 0922**** 0924****
July 14, 2009 12:52:18 PM

way to go, you got lucky (unless they are intentionally binning more parts now)
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a b K Overclocking
July 14, 2009 10:31:23 PM

oaks101 said:
hey there, what is the batch number on your CPU? eg 0922**** 0924****


Where do you find the batch number? If it's on the CPU itself, then I don't know because I didn't read what was on it. And it's already installed. Maybe when I'm going to buy a new cooler I'll check and if you will still be interested I'll post it up.
a b K Overclocking
July 14, 2009 10:32:41 PM

mindless728 said:
way to go, you got lucky (unless they are intentionally binning more parts now)


Idk, I've read a lot of people are having success unlocking cores on this CPU.
July 17, 2009 5:44:06 PM

Post up a cpu-z shot if you would please.
a b K Overclocking
July 17, 2009 6:22:16 PM

I need to reinstall windows so I'll post the shots later...hang on there...
a b K Overclocking
July 17, 2009 11:39:03 PM

Here are some screen shots





Sorry, for some reason you have to right click on the links and click "view image"
July 18, 2009 12:24:24 AM

Try photobucket next time. I cant even get the right click show image to work
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 12:36:03 AM

Now overclock it to 3.5 and watch your 102.99$ CPU fly....... :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 3:33:50 AM

OvrClkr said:
Now overclock it to 3.5 and watch your 102.99$ CPU fly....... :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 


It overclocks even higher then what Tom's could do it?!? Nice...I"ll try it, stress test it, and benchmark it. Then I'll post up what I got...
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 4:04:01 AM

Its only a 400Mhz increase, i doubt Tom's couldn't get it to 3.5...

I have mines at 3.5 (1.4v) on a board that doesn't even have an SB750.....
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 6:37:41 PM

OvrClkr said:
Its only a 400Mhz increase, i doubt Tom's couldn't get it to 3.5...

I have mines at 3.5 (1.4v) on a board that doesn't even have an SB750.....


Are all the cores unlocked?
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 9:24:11 PM

xtc28 said:
Try photobucket next time. I cant even get the right click show image to work


Sorry about all that...here it is:
Everything is @ stock except CPU...which is overclocked to 3.2 to match the 955 speed...

a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 9:35:32 PM

OvrClkr said:
Its only a 400Mhz increase, i doubt Tom's couldn't get it to 3.5...

I have mines at 3.5 (1.4v) on a board that doesn't even have an SB750.....


I think I can hit 3.5Ghz...but I think I'll have to give it a voltage boost...is 1.4 ok?
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 9:53:41 PM

1.4 is perfect on by board.... Just increase the volts in increments till you find your sweet spot...
July 18, 2009 10:16:14 PM

videl said:
Still, Does anyone have a 3DMark06 score for a phenom II X4 955 @ stock speed? I would really appreciate it and thanks...


Hi, :hello: 

I was lucky my gaming rig booted on the first try...so far so good, except for an intermittent lock-up problem I am having, I'm trying to tweak my way out of this problem before I unlock all my cores.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX
CPU: Phenom II X2 550 BE Callisto 3.1GHz
RAM : OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-ddr3
Video Card: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
DVD-Rom/Rw: Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B
CASE: Antec 900
Sound: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit [Old]
Monitor: Hyundai 19" L90D+ D-SUB [Old]
OS: WindowsXP Pro 32 [Old]

My stock scores:




a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 10:46:52 PM

videl said:
Are all the cores unlocked?


No, its still a dual core..... You can't unlock with a motherboard that has an nvidia chipset. Only SB710's and SB750's will unlock.
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:25:34 PM

OvrClkr said:
No, its still a dual core..... You can't unlock with a motherboard that has an nvidia chipset. Only SB710's and SB750's will unlock.


I see...well I got all cores unlocked and I managed to overclock to 3.5Ghz stable :D 
My voltage was 1.4
I'm sure I can hit 3.6 and make it stable...I hit 3.8 and it was stable enough to boot windows and run 3DMark06 benchmark...the scores were incredible.
I'll post up a screen shot later, I'm reinstalling windows...
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:30:50 PM

videl said:
I see...well I got all cores unlocked and I managed to overclock to 3.5Ghz stable :D 
My voltage was 1.4
I'm sure I can hit 3.6 and make it stable...I hit 3.8 and it was stable enough to boot windows and run 3DMark06 benchmark...the scores were incredible.
I'll post up a screen shot later, I'm reinstalling windows...



Nice ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;) 

BTW make sure you monitor those temps at 3.8Ghz, don't fry it !!!! :o 
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:33:43 PM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

I was lucky my gaming rig booted on the first try...so far so good, except for an intermittent lock-up problem I am having, I'm trying to tweak my way out of this problem before I unlock all my cores.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX
CPU: Phenom II X2 550 BE Callisto 3.1GHz
RAM : OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-ddr3
Video Card: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
DVD-Rom/Rw: Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B
CASE: Antec 900
Sound: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit [Old]
Monitor: Hyundai 19" L90D+ D-SUB [Old]
OS: WindowsXP Pro 32 [Old]

My stock scores:

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/Jim937/3DMarkstock.jpg
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/Jim937/CPU.jpg
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/Jim937/MEMORY-1.jpg


What's up with the lock-ups? Mine booted right after the build, I've had no problems with it at all so far...
Can you explain exactly what happens with yours?
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:36:40 PM

OvrClkr said:
Nice ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;) 

BTW make sure you monitor those temps at 3.8Ghz, don't fry it !!!! :o 


Yeah I kept it at 3.8 just for the benchmark...to see how high it goes.
When I get a better cooler, I'll leave it at 3.5 or 3.6 (I always like setting a little lower than the max)
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:44:28 PM

Your on a stock cooler???
a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2009 11:46:53 PM

OvrClkr said:
Your on a stock cooler???


Currently...
I put the computer right in front of the air conditioner vent to keep it from overheating on 3.8
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 12:02:44 AM

I would not do that, if anything condenses (gets wet) you can do some serious damage to your hardware. I have a 30.00$ cooler on my 550 and at 3.5Ghz it never reaches 50c (49c MAX). When i buy the CPU the first thing I do is throw the stock heat-sink in a box i use to keep all my old hardware and install an aftermarket cooler. IMO stock coolers are a piece of junk unless you plan on not doing any overclocking at all.
July 19, 2009 2:31:47 AM

videl said:
What's up with the lock-ups? Mine booted right after the build, I've had no problems with it at all so far...
Can you explain exactly what happens with yours?


Hi, :hello: 

I wish I knew what my lock-up/freeze problem was it is very random, it happens at any time in any App or game, I've spent 2 weeks reading and can't find a solution, I must have installed something that threw it off...I too was able to boot right after I completed the build, it ran fine for 2 weeks then the lock-ups started.

I should have made a note of the time & date, I do keep a record of my Installs & driver upgrades, but I can't connect the two. I will most likely do a Format & OS reinstall and start from the beginning "or" uninstall every thing except the OS, this time I will keep a better Log.

Memtest86 & Drive Fitness Test were perfect, no problems :love: 

I do have one concern with the limits on physical memory for WinXP it is 4GB...my comp only shows 3.25GB of RAM.
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 2:35:57 AM

Have you tested with prime95? If not then its time you try that......
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 4:23:39 AM

OvrClkr said:
I would not do that, if anything condenses (gets wet) you can do some serious damage to your hardware. I have a 30.00$ cooler on my 550 and at 3.5Ghz it never reaches 50c (49c MAX). When i buy the CPU the first thing I do is throw the stock heat-sink in a box i use to keep all my old hardware and install an aftermarket cooler. IMO stock coolers are a piece of junk unless you plan on not doing any overclocking at all.


Yeah, I'm planning to get a cooler very soon...what do you think about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 4:27:24 AM

That is a great heat-sink, its VERY big so measure first before buying....
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 4:41:22 AM

OvrClkr said:
That is a great heat-sink, its VERY big so measure first before buying....

It should fit, I'm sure I have enough room...
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 4:45:32 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

I wish I knew what my lock-up/freeze problem was it is very random, it happens at any time in any App or game, I've spent 2 weeks reading and can't find a solution, I must have installed something that threw it off...I too was able to boot right after I completed the build, it ran fine for 2 weeks then the lock-ups started.

I should have made a note of the time & date, I do keep a record of my Installs & driver upgrades, but I can't connect the two. I will most likely do a Format & OS reinstall and start from the beginning "or" uninstall every thing except the OS, this time I will keep a better Log.

Memtest86 & Drive Fitness Test were perfect, no problems :love: 

I do have one concern with the limits on physical memory for WinXP it is 4GB...my comp only shows 3.25GB of RAM.


32 bit windows can only recognize up to 3.25 gigs of ram but 64 bit goes way into terabytes i think (something like 128 terabytes)
So you have no problem there...
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 5:08:52 AM

Quote:
Actually 64 bit vista home premium can see 16gigs

"64 bit goes way into terabytes i think (something like 128 terabytes)"

You are thinking about hard drive space there, Windows 32x can see 32^2 bites of hard drive space

Windows 64x can see 64^2 bites of hdd space


Ohh...I see...thanks for the correction...
still 16 gigs is like the max on PCs these days...
a b K Overclocking
July 19, 2009 5:15:07 AM

I'm gonna go do some benchmarks and post them up...just installed win XP...
July 19, 2009 7:36:12 AM

Hi,.. i O.C my Phenom II X2 550 BE on my mobo with nVidia 720a chipset to 3.41GHz.. with stock cooler.....check the temp.


3DMark 06 scores at 3.1GHz


3DMark 06 scores at 3.41GHz


3DMark06 score with Athlon64 X2 6000+ at 3.3GHz
July 19, 2009 12:05:01 PM

OvrClkr said:
Have you tested with prime95? If not then its time you try that......


Hi, :hello: 

Prime95s first test is ok, the second & 3rd test locks up my computer, it gets completely frozen and does not respond to control/alt/delete, I need to press the reset button. Now I'm worried !

Test #1: [Sun Jul 19 03:20:59 2009]
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!


a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 2:35:57 AM

IMO that is a RAM issue... have you tested your RAM (1 stick at a time?)
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 5:50:41 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

Prime95s first test is ok, the second & 3rd test locks up my computer, it gets completely frozen and does not respond to control/alt/delete, I need to press the reset button. Now I'm worried !

Test #1: [Sun Jul 19 03:20:59 2009]
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/Jim937/Prime95.jpg


OvrClkr is right...
That probably is a ram issue because the first test uses barely any ram...and the other tests use way more...
Test it with memtest86...
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 6:01:52 AM

Same thing happen to me with my last build, every now n then it would freeze to a point that I wouldn't be able to turn off the PC unless I reset, or hold the power button till the PC shut off. I RMA'ed the RAM back to Newegg, 4 days later I had 2 new sets that were tested for 48 hours using memtest86 and prime95 and everything was fine. Now at days it is more likely that you might get a bad stick or two, so its always good to test the RAM before you send in any rebate info.... Took me 2 RMA's till i could get 2 flawless sets of OCZ Platinum 1066Mhz memory.
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 6:19:02 AM

I wouldn't recommend OCZ...I have good experience with G.Skill and Patriot so far...not one single bad stick...
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 7:33:57 AM

Here are some scores...

For those who don't know:
Hardware/Software:

phenom II X2 550 unlocked to be a phenom II X4 B50
4gig G.Skill 1333 ddr3 ram
GA MA770T UD3P
Sapphire ATI Radeon 4850
Win XP 32

Stock settings and speeds
(CPU @ 3.1, graphics gpu @ 625, graphics memory @ 993)



CPU OCed @ 3.2, graphics gpu @ 650, graphics memory @ 1050



CPU OCed @ 3.6, graphics gpu @ 700, graphics memory @ 1200



CPU OCed @ 3.8, graphics gpu @ 700, graphics memory @ 1200



What do you guys make of this?
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 7:40:43 AM

meodowla said:
Hi,.. i O.C my Phenom II X2 550 BE on my mobo with nVidia 720a chipset to 3.41GHz.. with stock cooler.....check the temp.
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/meodowla/PC.jpg

3DMark 06 scores at 3.1GHz
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/meodowla/Untitled2.jpg

3DMark 06 scores at 3.41GHz
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/meodowla/Untitled3.jpg

3DMark06 score with Athlon64 X2 6000+ at 3.3GHz
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/meodowla/Untitled.jpg


Nice, but get a nicer cooler if you plan to leave it like that...then you will have room to go higher...
Have you tested it with prime95?
July 20, 2009 12:02:38 PM

OvrClkr said:
IMO that is a RAM issue... have you tested your RAM (1 stick at a time?)

Hi, :hello: 

Yes 1 stick at a time they both passed Mem86 again. I ran each stick in Prime95, stick #1 Passed...stick #2 Locked up my comp. I'm getting a RMA from OCZ for stick #2.

Thanks for all the help. I will advise once I have both sticks up & running :love: 

Quote:
Thank you for creating a trouble ticket with OCZ Technology. We value you as a customer and will respond to your trouble ticket within 24 hours, excluding weekends and holidays. Please verify that you've provided us with your correct contact information and check your e-mail for a confirmation of the creation of this ticket. Do not reply to e-mails sent via trouble ticket; instead add comments to your trouble ticket and we will respond to them as quickly as possible. Have a great day!

-OCZ Technology Support Staff
July 20, 2009 5:59:39 PM

videl said:
Nice, but get a nicer cooler if you plan to leave it like that...then you will have room to go higher...
Have you tested it with prime95?

Yeah... all test passed..
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 6:10:56 PM

videl said:
I wouldn't recommend OCZ...I have good experience with G.Skill and Patriot so far...not one single bad stick...


OCZ is TOP NOTCH specially with the DDR3 modules, they just have a bad batch every now n then just like every other manufacturer. I have had bad sticks from G.Skill and Patriot....as long as we can RMA it is not an issue.....
July 20, 2009 7:17:30 PM

Hi, :hello: 

First let me Thank Videl for the use of his thread, I did not mean to hijack it :love: 

This is the part I hate, one stick works at the current config the other does not...now I will change my BIOS settings from AUTO to Manual and use their settings & lets see what happens.
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has been changed from Acknowledged to Waiting on Customer
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Comment: Hello James,

Try clearing the CMOS and then manually adjusting the memory settings in the BIOS. For this particular kit I recommend using timings of 7-7-7-20, command rate of 2t, and 1.8 volts.

If the problems persist even with these settings try testing each memory stick individually with Memtest. You can download a bootable copy from http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/be_pagegen.php?....

If you find errors with your memory, especially if the errors follow one particular memory stick, your memory is likely faulty and will need replacement with an RMA.
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 7:33:06 PM

No worries, as we are here to help you.....if you have tested each stick individually and find one to be faulty, just RMA the bad stick and you should be fine....

On the other hand, you should always change the timings when you install your RAM regardless. Most of the time leaving it on Auto will result in lock-ups, BSOD's, etc.....
July 20, 2009 10:03:09 PM

OvrClkr said:
No worries, as we are here to help you.....if you have tested each stick individually and find one to be faulty, just RMA the bad stick and you should be fine....

On the other hand, you should always change the timings when you install your RAM regardless. Most of the time leaving it on Auto will result in lock-ups, BSOD's, etc.....

Hi, :hello: 

Both sticks just passed the Prime95 test only difference is that I set the memory voltage to 17v that is a increase of +0.200v...OCZ tech recommends 18v however the +0.300v setting was in Red so I did not use it.

I also did not clear my CMOS yet, now that the the sticks passed Prime95 I wonder IF I should clear it...what do you think?

I ran a second Prime95 test with both sticks installed & added more torture to this test by running my game World of Warcraft, CPU-Z & E6 all running at the same time...it PASSED see screen shot below !!! :love: 

BIOS: Mem Clock X666 = 1333Mhz, 7.0-7.0-7.0-20-28 T2, 17.0 voltage

Why does CPU-Z SPD Tab not match the BIOS settings ???
a b K Overclocking
July 20, 2009 10:08:16 PM

Looks like its good to go, what I would do just to make sure that both sticks are 100% stable, tonight before going to bed leave your PC running prime95, the 3rd on from top to bottom (LOTS OF RAM) till the early morning (at least 8 hours) if your PC is still running prime by the time you wake up you should be fine.....
a b K Overclocking
July 21, 2009 3:27:39 AM

You should be fine...you should have changed the settings right away...
Now you should benchmark your PC with 3DMark06 and post up the scores...
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