NVIDIA'S Big Bang II coming soon

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9858 [...] index.html

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i wanna see a graphic board where you can swap the processor and ram. have it fully customizable. or i want to see true dual core processors

That's a toughie. I'd like to see a card with AT LEAST 8800GT performance (preferably 4870X2 performance!) that uses a fraction of the power of current cards.
What I think we'll get is a very modest bump in performance, but at least the first of a set of working APIs to let a GPU handle a lot more tasks, not just physics, and useful demo code to go with them.

That would be nice, although very unlikely... :C Also, if we think about current GPUs' temperatures...

This is somewhat what I was leaning to as well; but we'll see I suppose

Hybrid SLI with one GPU committed to traditional GPU tasks and the second as an additional 'CPU'??

i'd have to say it's just a new version of SLI that will scale about 23% better than the current SLI layout... performance tweaks really...

i dont have time to look it up again, but there's a company out there that claims to have scaled SLI and X-Fyre to 80-95%, that's right, both SLI and X-Fyre, with that said, it's not hard to believe that Nvidia knows how to scale SLI better, they're just milking it like a hog...

Possibly, or even a single GPU able to handle work in addition to traditional graphics tasks, particularly when not gaming.
...something that might begin to justify their assertions regarding the CPU becoming unnecessary. Imagine something able to make Intel sweat enough to start cutting prices, or maybe stopping the "new socket every time the Grinch sneezes" obsolescence game.

Doubt its anything to do with SLI.

I'm guessing a new architecture; I've heard some whispers for some time now, and the current line of GPU's are all re-hashed 8800's. NVIDIA's due for something thats 100% new.

It could also be a partnership of some sort, or something to do with onboard physics.

It is useless marketing hype to stop people from buying 4870 X2s....

Most people wouldn't care since their framerate wouldn't improve and they wouldn't be able to start flame wars. ;D

(Or actually nobody would do anything because the "world" would be "KABOOM", if that's what you meant ;D)

Could reduce cpu overhead - but that might be solvable through drivers as well.

I could see a pretty big upset with Intel and BR04 chips if that were the case though, heh; but anyways, TGGA has a good point and that'd be nice too.

They are actually going to start selling graphics upgrades as full Nvidia "TESLA GAMER" units. It'll only cost 12,000$ for a graphics upgrade, it'll be fully external to your regular PC, and it'll come with a KOOL KASE TOO!

: DDDDDDDDD

NVIDIA's first Big Bang driver was the one that added support for SLI so this new driver should be something big.........as far as im conserned, SLI started showing its color only recenttly.........so was it truely a big band....

I know what it is, its Duke Nukem on TWIMTBP!!!! And he will be driving his green CUDA!!!! And it wont be DX10.1 !!!! And itll have ageia physics!!!! And itll stop anyone from buying a R700 !!!! And they bought Larrabee !!!! We get one screen shot, thats a crappy take at that, and this gives us all a bone to chew on while nVidias been dropping prices to keep competitive, not exactly explaining why they charged so much to begin with, and slowly lowered their prices, instead of a quick response. I keep hearing G350, I hear theres a 9800+ coming, now this. Wheres the beef?

^^hahahahahaa

i wonder where concrum is.....m sure he can shed sum color full out of the world insight on this.....

I doubt this is anything more than desperate marketing - they up the sh!t and they know it.

In times of desperatation and a fall from grace, they have applied the 1st rule of marketing 101.

"Find something successful that you've done. Add a +1. Issue a press release".

Too early for that: I don't think that DX11 will be coming THAT soon. Well, that's possible, but I also read reports stating that it should arrive by 2009 Q3 or Q4, close to Windows 7's launch (but also compatible with Vista). I'll try to find the link. Anyway, since Microsoft has been saying that DX11 is "based on and compatible with DX10", do you guys think that HD 48xx will be able to do it, since they already have a Tesselation Engine and so on?

Perhaps TGGA knows this one.

big bang 2 sounds like the title to a porno

Thanks a lot, Jaydee! I was waiting for your comments, hahaha! Have you already voted?

NVIDIA's Big Bang II revealed, jaydee: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] ii-nothing

Kinda what you said.

Be nice to see like a GPU core at CPU speed 2.2 Ghz , but i dont kno tha much about graphics cards so i dunno if that is possible

....skynet ?

What does that say for the "theory" of Intelligent Design?

This is very much going to be a driver-related thing, and not hardware. To be honest, while nVidia so very badly NEEDS a brand-spanking-new architecture now that RV770 finally has ATi beating the crap out of G80/G92/GT200, (which are all effectively identical) they aren't going to get out of their mess without it, and every day they don't sees them lose a combination of profit margins/market share; all they can do is attempt to control the ratio of what it is they lose.

However, nVidia's placed WAY too much of a bet on GT200, which they were confident would, thanks to having vastly more die area than any known integrated circuit in history, would give them an unbeatable edge... They most certainly weren't believing that it would turn out to be an utter lemon in the face of RV770, that such a chip could rival it in pure performance, the one strength they sacrificed everything else for, in spite of taking only 44.4% as much silicon.

So no, don't expect nVidia to be able to pull a rabbit out of its hat and possibly ever be competitive with RV770 anytime this year, as much as they'd like you to believe so you'll put off that Radeon 4850/70 purchase... And I'm pretty sure that they're not sleeping all that well at night either, worrying how whatever they have next is going to fare given that it appears it may be greeted shortly out the gate by RV870, which among other things will apparently shrink down from 55nm to either 40 or 45nm.

Gah, to think that people still believe in this sort of thing...

To be honest, a modern GPU is already multi-core; RV770, for instance, can be said to have 160 cores; each block of 5 stream processors is wholly independent of each other, and possesses a degree of its own memory in the form of registers, and the GPU handles hundreds of simultaneous threads, many times over what an Intel quad-core can. Similarly, one could label GT200 as a 240-core GPU, as likewise, each of its stream processors can independently process its own data and instructions.

The whole "dual-core" thing comes from a misconception that GPUs are simply CPUs for graphics... Which is simply not true. They may be integrated circuits (ICs) designed for computing, but the similarities effectively end there.

GPUs are designed for math-intensive applications with massive arrays of data that become ever-larger with each new game, (up till Crysis, at least) and can be infinitely repeated, because you've got a LOT of pixels to process per frame, and a minimum cap of 60 frames per second to process. As a result, unlike with CPUs, GPUs can be made parallel and will scale extremely well. Additionally, a GPU, unlike a CPU, has pretty much always come with its own integrated memory controller, as well as all the I/O functions it needs: both the PCI/AGP/PCI-e/whatever interface, as well as output interfaces. (RAMDAC, DVI/HDMI interface) As such, a GPU is more akin to a complete "system on a chip" than a single component. And it would make utterly zero sense to clone most of those parts to make a "dual-core" chip. On dual-GPU boards, they are retained because they are still used, just like how dual-CPU boards are.

Dual core GPU... hehehe

I think this Big Bang II is more of a Big Marketing campaign to get people guessing so they won't buy the ATI cards quite as fast.

Supporting SLi on Intel chipsets would be an actual Big Bang of sorts, but I don't see NV going that path.

Edit: I love how "Call it quits" is winning...hehe