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Lion King ASLAN   07-25-2008 at 01:26:02 AM

Hello eweryone !!!
Last week i bought a Radeon HD3650 AGP card and now i am having a serious problems with it.
Problem is that almost ewery game crashes as soon as loading is complete and my computer restarts. The only two games that actualy works without a problem are Test drive unlimited and Max Payne 2.
I tried to instail ewery posible driver that i can find and no one solves the problem fo me besides official ATI and sapphire Catalyst Agp hotfix drivers i tried Omega drivers and even drivers from other manufacters(asus,MSI,...)and nothing helped me to solve the problem and that is the reason whay i am asking you for help.
I have got a fresh instalation of windows with latest fixes from microsoft and the latest drivers for all my hardware.
My computer specifications:

AMD Athlon XP 3200 (Barton core,Socket A)
2 GB DDR400 ram
MSI KT6V Mainboard
1x80GB IDE Western Digital harddrive
1x160GB SATA Western Digital harddrive
420 Watt LCPower
Plextor PX-755 DVDwriter
Sapphire Radeon HD3650 AGP 512DDR3
Windows XP MCE Service pack 2

I am working with computers for almost 10 years and i newer expirienced problems like this.

I hope that together we will solve this problem.

Good luck and have a nice day!

Primož Osolnik

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akhilles   07-25-2008 at 02:46:31 PM
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How old is the psu? It may be the problem:

Quote :

400 Watt or greater power supply (550 Watt for dual ATI CrossFireX™) recommended



http://ati.amd.com/products/Radeon [...] ments.html

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Lion King ASLAN   07-25-2008 at 02:56:20 PM
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My PSU should be enough strong to feed this card because it feed my prewious card Nvidia 6800 ultra without problem

Here is a link to my power suply: http://www.lc-power.com/
you can find it under silent series
it has got 420 watt and is around 2 years old

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akhilles   07-26-2008 at 03:17:56 PM
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Try another psu. Or your friend's/neighbor's.

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cmus   07-28-2008 at 08:51:45 AM
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Try to install new motherboard chipset drivers. Worked in my set...

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Lion King ASLAN   08-01-2008 at 10:42:13 PM
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I have a VIA KT600 maimboard and i already updated all drivers and radeon still do not work as it should

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kgraf   08-13-2008 at 06:20:03 PM
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have you considered your power supply? the new card might draw more power or the power supply might have become unstable.

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kniaugaudiskis   08-13-2008 at 06:29:14 PM
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Try lowering core speed of your card. If it helps - your PSU is the problem then.

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kwksnd   02-27-2009 at 07:17:30 AM
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i had the same prob

i fixed this problem by going to the saphire site and getting the drivers specificly made for the hd3650 agp and it fixed it for me

seems the drivers off the actual ati site are not working with it.

i ran dxdiag and when testing direct x7 it failed
and with the saphire drivers it is fine.

hope this helps

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gjianop   03-31-2009 at 06:33:33 PM
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I'm having a similar problem also with this card since I purchased it 1 month ago. No matter what game I'm playing the card fails after about 30 min to 1 hour. The game is still going but the screen is blank and I have to reboot. It seems the card resets the resolution down a notch to med bit graphics instead of high. I then have to reset this. I have a 7yr old Dell Dimension 8250, 2.4ghz P4 (850 chipset) with 1g Rambus Ram and 500w power. I have updated all drivers (chipset, bois and ATI). Only the hotfixes from the Sapphire site work. Other than gaming no problems. Might be an overheating issue with mine since the fan is kicking hard at failure and the system really slows down and I mean really. Did manual check and cooling fans are running.

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smarty2009   04-25-2009 at 02:13:19 PM
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To tell the truth these HD3650 (or 3850) cards with PCIe-AGP bridge are not fully compatible with the old motherboards (AGP slots, chipsets, etc.) The manufacturers try to gain some money from this part of the market too.
To demonstrate the situation: This card for the old (AGP) motherboard is just like a Ferrari Testarossa engine for a Fiat Uno. :lol:

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Tungar   06-11-2009 at 01:41:44 AM
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To tell the truth, Smarty, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Possibly, yes, some motherboards may not honor the 8x agp standard correctly, but thats not the fault of the Card, Manufacturer, or the AGP standard itself.

Regardless, there is no way a HD3850 is going to exceed 2GB/s of data throughput to flood the AGP bus.

Testarossa engine into a Uno, my arse.

Go read a book.

Personally, I feel a 3850 is an ideal upgrade for an AGP system, and would like to see more options available for the 'old' agp hardware.

Re: your problems - the likely culprit is your PSU - however your mobo could be failing too. Can you spot any swollen capacitors on your motherboard?


Message edited by Tungar on 06-11-2009 at 01:44:21 AM
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misfitnz   06-14-2009 at 06:45:47 AM
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Tungar wrote :

To tell the truth, Smarty, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Possibly, yes, some motherboards may not honor the 8x agp standard correctly, but thats not the fault of the Card, Manufacturer, or the AGP standard itself.

Regardless, there is no way a HD3850 is going to exceed 2GB/s of data throughput to flood the AGP bus.

Testarossa engine into a Uno, my arse.

Go read a book.

Personally, I feel a 3850 is an ideal upgrade for an AGP system, and would like to see more options available for the 'old' agp hardware.

Re: your problems - the likely culprit is your PSU - however your mobo could be failing too. Can you spot any swollen capacitors on your motherboard?



My flatmate has the same card, as does the guy in this thread:

<http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264749-33-radeon-3650-crashing>

The bridge chip on the back side of the card in my flatmate's machine gets too hot to touch, even idling in Windows desktop. Pic of chip here:

<http://www.overclockzone.com/NiNe_iZe/Year_2008/05/sapphire-hd3650-512-agp/HHH.jpg>

I'm going to remove the gunk off the bridge chip and try to heatsink it somehow, even though it's really close to both the AGP slot and the northbridge heatsink in her rig.

To summarize, the bridge chip overheats. Extremely. 150 deg C or more at a guess.

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Godzealot   09-28-2009 at 10:49:19 PM
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If you have an AGP ATI card, it's not supported in the official drivers. You have to get the "hotfix" catalyst drivers for AGP cards, you can find the latest ones on the amd site.

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Godzealot   09-28-2009 at 10:50:01 PM
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Oh here it is:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticl [...] otfix.aspx

And remember to use Add/Remove Programs to uninstall, restart, run driver sweeper, restart, and then install the hotfix.


Message edited by Godzealot on 09-28-2009 at 10:51:05 PM
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