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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 09:07:46 AM

May you help me decide which to buy? Also, will I need certain specifications on my power supply to ensure that these run? Because I've been reading reviews by people and several say that they've had to return theirs because of their power supply. I don't even know how to check what power supply I have and if it'll be able to run. I have a Dell Dimension 4600 but I believe there's a different power supply in it than the one Dell gave me (because that one died).
These are all AGP cards.

Sapphire ATI Radeon X1650 Pro
512MB AGP Graphics C1ard 12 Pixel Shader Processor TV-Out DVI-I HDTV

BFG GeForce 7300GT

GPU NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
RAMDACs Dual 400MHz
Core Clock 350MHz
Vertices 350 million/sec.
Video Memory 512MB
Memory Type DDR2
Bus Type 8x AGP
Connector(s) DVI-I, VGA + HDTV
Multiple Monitor Support Yes


ATI Radeon X1600 Pro

GPU/VPU: Radeon X1600 Pro
RAMDAC: Dual 400 MHz
Video Memory: 512MB
Memory Type: 128-bit GDDR2
Interface Type: AGP
Interface Speed:4X, 8X
Connector(s): DVI
TV/S-Video
VGA (15-Pin D-Sub)


Message edited by Intel-lectual on 07-26-2008 at 09:20:33 AM
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sarwar_r87   07-26-2008 at 09:51:10 AM
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i had a 7300GT in 2006. in simple, the only games that it can barely play
with min details are all released 2yrs ago.mayb one if ur being too kind.

1600 pro will be able to play most games with medium settings and at a screen siz of 1024x768. beyon that its no good. 1650pro will be a bit better.

if u wana play games i suggest u get 3850.it will require 420 watt psu min.but it wil pla almost everithin.
if you are willing to play at low detain i guess u could get 3650 or 2600xt which is of the same class (more or less) as 1650 and i believe is a better option due to dx10(.1). 350 to 400 watt PSU required.
if u r not into gaming , 7300 would be fine. psu requirement is almost nothing. i ran ma old 7300gt on a non brand 300W

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Message edited by sarwar_r87 on 07-26-2008 at 09:55:04 AM
------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 09:58:04 AM
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If you really want to go with one of those go with the 1650 Pro.

However, i would suggest this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102730
or one similar to it.

Honesty i couldnt tell you what would be the best powersupply without more info.

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:00:28 AM
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sarwar_r87 wrote :

i had a 7300GT in 2006. in simple, the only games that it can barely play
with min details are all released 2yrs ago.mayb one if ur being too kind.

1600 pro will be able to play most games with medium settings and at a screen siz of 1024x768. beyon that its no good. 1650pro will be a bit better.

if u wana play games i suggest u get 3850.it will require 420 watt psu min.but it wil pla almost everithin.
if you are willing to play at low detain i guess u could get 3650 or 2600xt which is of the same class (more or less) as 1650 and i believe is a better option due to dx10(.1). 350 to 400 watt PSU required.
if u r not into gaming , 7300 would be fine. psu requirement is almost nothing. i ran ma old 7300gt on a non brand 300W



or go with what this guy says. happy hunting.

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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 10:09:19 AM
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Well I'm not even going to be using the computer that this graphics card will go in. I just want to replace my Nvidia FX 5200 that got fried. So I really want to stay below $85 for this. My younger brothers are, however, going to be playing games on this. But I think the ones that they will play will be EA Sports games like NBA Live 08, Madden, etc. I'm hoping I can have this graphics card last this computer for at least 2-3 years more until my parents finally decide that it's time to buy another computer.


Message edited by Intel-lectual on 07-26-2008 at 10:12:25 AM
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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:24:13 AM
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Okay. hhmm. well if you are interested here is another FX 5200 you can get your hands on.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150239

and it's from a really great company and most likely will not require to possibly replace your PSU.

however, if your looking into an upgrade go with the 1650 Pro card, but it may require you to get a new PSU.

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sarwar_r87   07-26-2008 at 10:26:04 AM
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go with 3650. u can find one less than $69. plus its power management is better than 1600 or 2600.

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
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goonting   07-26-2008 at 10:27:03 AM
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hmmm what about the HD 3650?

------------------------------ Intel Pentium 4 630 3.0Ghz Shuttle XPC SB81P(intel 915G)
Patriot Dual Channel 2GB DDR400: Raid0 640GB 2pc WD3200AAJS
Powercolor ATI Radeon HD3870 PCS 512MB DDR4
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/414710.png
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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 10:29:25 AM
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Yeah, I was looking for an upgrade. But new PSU? Aw man are you sure? I have PC Wizard 2008. Does that tell you what your PSU specs are? 3650? Does it come in AGP format?

Edit: Also, I live in Canada and Newegg doesn't ship here. Sniff. I searched tigerdirect.ca for ATI 3650 AGP but they only have PCI-E, which my computer can't support. Still looking...I may just go with the 1650 Pro then.


Message edited by Intel-lectual on 07-26-2008 at 10:34:14 AM
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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:34:31 AM
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I think the easiest way to see what the wattage is for your PSU will be to crack open the case a reading the label. Generally the overall wattage is located on the bottom of the label.

And yes the 3650 does come in AGP format. However, seeing as tight your case is, i dont know if it would fit. :/

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:36:43 AM
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I've been researching for you at this site: http://www.newegg.com

i do most of my shopping there :D


Message edited by Phrexianghoul on 07-26-2008 at 10:37:10 AM
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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:38:59 AM
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Phrexianghoul wrote :

I think the easiest way to see what the wattage is for your PSU will be to crack open the case a reading the label. Generally the overall wattage is located on the bottom of the label.

And yes the 3650 does come in AGP format. However, seeing as tight your case is, i dont know if it would fit. :/



oh sadness :??: Then most likely the 1650 Pro is your best bet

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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 10:39:24 AM
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Yeah lol. I'm so jealous. It even has the one laptop that I want and can't find anywhere here.
I guess I'll have to open the case then. Is 1650 Pro actually that power needy?

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:43:45 AM
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I'm not sure I've never owned one. Well lets get a basic idea of what is inside the computer.
How many hard drives does it have? Optical drives? RAM sticks? And we'll assume that the 1650 will be in there. and a P4 3.0

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 10:47:34 AM
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If you have more than 320 total power i think you'll be okay :)

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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 10:57:40 AM
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Ok, but I'm going to check just to make sure of everything. I'll be back in (hopefully) a few minutes. In the meantime, would you be able to look at my other thread? :ange:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] bw-w2042tq

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sarwar_r87   07-26-2008 at 11:01:47 AM
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3650 or 1650pro, both has a min requirement of 400 written on the box. but i thing u will be ok with ok with 350W branded PSU provided u dont have a power hungry processor lik P4 or pentium D


Message edited by sarwar_r87 on 07-26-2008 at 11:03:10 AM
------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 06:47:47 PM
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Sorry for the super late reply. I found out that my PSU gives 400W. But it is a P4 processor...So is there a great chance that it'll just die fast? Because if so, maybe I should get the 1600...unless that has the same PSU requirements.

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 07:44:07 PM
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Intel-lectual wrote :

Sorry for the super late reply. I found out that my PSU gives 400W. But it is a P4 processor...So is there a great chance that it'll just die fast? Because if so, maybe I should get the 1600...unless that has the same PSU requirements.



"So is there a great chance that it'll just die fast?"- LOL. thats hard to say :) Even if it did it's possible to get a new mobo and just migrate all the stuff over (CPU, GPU, & Ram).

Yeah i'm going to guess that the 1600 and the 1650 Pro are going to require roughly the same power. The 1600 may take less, not sure.

However, if your really hoping for it to die then go 1600. It's for your younger brothers right? I dont think they will care which one you get. They just want it to work and you'll be a hero in their eyes when it does. :D

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sabot00   07-26-2008 at 07:44:28 PM
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i ran my 7300GT with a no brand OEM 250watt.

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Intel-lectual   07-26-2008 at 08:04:07 PM
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Lol and the 1650 was cheaper than the 1600 too...well..by $4.

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Phrexianghoul   07-26-2008 at 08:13:30 PM
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Alright then. Good Luck and happy hunting :D

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