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Hi

I've built a new system for myself and for some reason it shuts down when I try to install Vista. I noticed that in the bios settings that the CPU is running at 92 Celsius, maybe that's causing the problem?

I tried re-seat the heatsink but that didn't work, it's still running at 92 Celsius although I didn't try installing Vista after that. Does bios tell the true CPU temperature?

Will I have to buy a new heatsink? But why isn't the original one working?

Thanks

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yes it does normally. what cooler you are using?take a picture would be best.

Reply to iluvgillgill
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Reset the heatsink, it may not be making contact. That kind of temperature is the same as if you run the cpu bare.

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Reply to dagger

he did say he tried reseated it already.

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iluvgillgill wrote :

he did say he tried reseated it already.



Exactly, it's still not properly sat. :p

The stock cooler comes with thermal paste already applied, so improper setting is the only possible reason.

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Reply to dagger
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I think it is making contact because when I took it off the paste was spread on the CPU ans heatsink.

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kashifb wrote :

How do I attach a photo?



You can't. You have to upload it to a hosting service like compuserve or imageshack and link it. Yeah, stupid forum... :p

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Reply to dagger

yeah tom's been little stingy on the forum.should have bought another terabyte for the server on this forum!lol

Reply to iluvgillgill

u need to [img]link[/img] to show the picture.TRY IT.

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iluvgillgill wrote :

u need to [img]link[/img] to show the picture.TRY IT.



Bah, just click on the link. :na:

As for the picture, that's the stock cooler alright. Not much else can be made out from that photo though. :p

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
Reply to dagger

u need to put "[img]" and "[/img]" in front and behind the link

Reply to iluvgillgill
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What else do you need to see?

Reply to kashifb

btw that picture tells me nothing at all.show us the whole side of your PC.

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iluvgillgill wrote :

u need to put "[img]" and "[/img]" in front and behind the link



I did but it didn't work.

Reply to kashifb

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/539/image031af3.jpg

 

you didnt use the actual image location which you can find if you are using Firefox click "copy image location" or under properties if you are using IE.


Message edited by iluvgillgill on 08-30-2008 at 08:05:22 PM
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Guys any ideas?

I've reseated the heatsink and pressed it down as much as I can.

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kashifb wrote :

Here another one but it's big so link below:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257 [...] 032ah0.jpg



That doesn't tell much either. Push down on it. Is it loose? Lga775 pushpins can be pretty flimsy. You can also try disabling fan control in bios, so that the fan spins at 100% all the time.


Message edited by dagger on 08-30-2008 at 08:21:04 PM
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umm make sure the push pins all the way in.....they are hard to get in so apply some pressure......

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What exactly do you want to see in the picture?

The heatsink is down as much as it can go.

The fan speed is around 2000 mostly below it if that's helpful.

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kashifb wrote :

What exactly do you want to see in the picture?

The heatsink is down as much as it can go.

The fan speed is around 2000 mostly below it if that's helpful.



Maybe it's stuck censor then, although 92C would be an extreme case of it. If it's stuck, and the cpu is actually cool, it'll throttle and shut down anyway. Can you feel the heat from it? Press you finger on it and feel the burn and whatnot... :na:

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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How ca I disable fan control in the bios?

Reply to kashifb
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If it is a sensor, what's the solution?

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kashifb wrote :

How ca I disable fan control in the bios?



It's different for every motherboard. Look through the bios options. It should be something straight forward, like "cpu fan control method" or something like that. Just set it to disable.

kashifb wrote :

If it is a sensor, what's the solution?


You can't fix stuck sensor. Have to rma it.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
Reply to dagger

I can tell you for 100% certanty, from that picure your cooler isn't mounted on right.

You need to pull it off.

Turn all of the pins in the lock position opposite way of the arrow, "clockwise" I believe. I can see two of your pins in the unlock position.

Pull your motherboard out.

Go to radioshack, and buy some new thermal paste cause now you have contaminated it to bad. You will probably skip this and wonder why your temps are still bad, but then comeback and read again.

Redo the thermal paste, A BB size amount in the middle of the CPU, make sure the old paste is cleaned with Rubbing alcohol.

Put the CPU in the mobo, lock it in, and with the mobo out of the case push the pins down like this. Make sue they are all clockwise locked!

Go in a X pattern.

top left
bottom right
top right
bottom left.

Now your CPU is installed right and has non contaminated thermal paste.

Have fun with your new rigs at good temps.


Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 08-30-2008 at 08:45:42 PM
Reply to roadrunner197069

In your first picture bottom left and top right pins are in the open position.

Reply to roadrunner197069

when you pull the heatsink does it move?if it does that means the pin(s) is not being push in fully.

Reply to iluvgillgill
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So it is mounting after all. I say forget about the crap pushpins and pay $30 for a real heatsink with backplate. :sarcastic:

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
Reply to dagger

shake the whole case if it falls out that means its not in.i did it before i was SHOCKED when it was not in which i thought i pushed it in.

Reply to iluvgillgill
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Thanks - I will try and post back here how I get on.

Reply to kashifb
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Ok - which way is the pin open and which way is it closed?

Reply to kashifb

dagger wrote :

So it is mounting after all. I say forget about the crap pushpins and pay $30 for a real heatsink with backplate. :sarcastic:





Push pins work perfect. You have to know how to put them on. When done properly they work just like they are supposed to. When you got a pin in the open slot you can hit it with a hammer and it wont lock in.

The other flaw is from people when the mount the mobo in the case and the try to push the oins in and the mobo flexes and the pin botoms out on the mobo tray not allowing it to go in.

If you pins are all in the lock position and you lock em in the mobo out of the case its so easy a baby could do it.

Reply to roadrunner197069

Clockwise is locked counter clock wise is not. You want them all clockwise.

AKA opposite the arrow direction. The arrow direction is for taking it off.

The screwdriver slots will point out in a x when all are in lock position.

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Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 08-30-2008 at 08:57:52 PM
Reply to roadrunner197069

the same kind of situation happened with me
i have reduced the memory frequency in the bios and everything went fine
go into bios and fix a lower frequency for ram
and keep the settings for ram timings as automatic

try different ram speeds

if not then try removing the cmos battery for a minute and then keep it and set the memory speeds again


forget about temperatures and try to install vista every time
this may be time consuming but may become good for you

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Message edited by venkat karthik on 08-30-2008 at 09:03:07 PM
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roadrunner197069 wrote :

Clockwise is locked counter clock wise is not. You want them all clockwise.

AKA opposite the arrow direction. The arrow direction is for taking it off.

The screwdriver slots will point out in a x when all are in lock position.


Sorry but I still don't understand!!!

If I turn the pin clockwise or anti-clockwise, it just keeps on turning. Which position do I stop it in to open it?

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venkat karthik wrote :

the same kind of situation happened with me
i have reduced the memory frequency in the bios and everything went fine
go into bios and fix a lower frequency for ram
and keep the settings for ram timings as automatic

try different ram speeds

if not then try removing the cmos battery for a minute and then keep it and set the memory speeds again


forget about temperatures and try to install vista every time
this may be time consuming but may become good for you


I'll try that as well, thanks.

Reply to kashifb

Well they only turn a 1/4 turn either way, and they lock in either position.

If yours turns around and around, you broke it and it will never work. You will need to go buy a new heatsink.

Reply to roadrunner197069

kashifb wrote :

I'll try that as well, thanks.





Dont bother. Waste of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Your heat sink is the Issue.

Reply to roadrunner197069

get a retention bracket it and put it on the stock intel heatsink.

Reply to iluvgillgill
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I have thermal past, I'll re-seat the heatsink and try to lock them all this time. If that doesn't work I'll just get a new heat sink.

What's meant by "A BB size amount in the middle of the CPU"?

Reply to kashifb

A BB like in BB gun. Similar to about 2 grains of rice.

Like I said if your pins turn around infinite, they are broke and it will never work.

If all work except one you still wont get good contact and will overheat.

If you dont mind heating your CPU to 90C and taking precious months off of its life everytime. Go ahead and keep trying to fix the problem with tape and gum.

I'm done.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.

Reply to roadrunner197069
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You're right, I have broken the locks on the heatsink. I'll get a new one and then try it. Can I use any thermal compound or do I have to buy a certain one for core 2 duo?

Reply to kashifb

any thermal paste will work but its best to get the AS5.

Reply to iluvgillgill
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Is AS5 as manufacturer?

Reply to kashifb

oh no no no.

Artic Silver 5

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