New CPU on Newegg, Q8200

[spathotan]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055

Never heard anything about this until just now. Probably barely edges out the Q6600, cant imagine it being more than 1-4% within, also only 4mb of L2.....odd. More than likely a good buy for people stuck between buying the Q6600 or a Q9550 or what not.

 

[jimmysmitty]

This has been planned for a while. Low end quads to be used to battle the tri cores and low end quads that AMD has.

Can't wait to see the performance numbers on these and if they will be able to OC much.

 

[BaronMatrix]

Because Jimmy demands that he gets more than he pays for.

 

[BadTrip]

So you are going to start that argument now? almost as bad as the "cpus are under priced bs"

 

[pauldh]

Lower frequency, lower multiplier, half the cache, and a higher price. 65nm or not, I'd rather buy a Q6600.

 

[spathotan]

Yea, just more fuel for the absurdity that is Intel pricing. Not quite as bad as the E8400 only being $5 more than the E8200 though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115038

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

STILL cant figure this one out.

 

[dagger]

Lower frequency, lower multiplier, half the cache, and a higher price. 65nm or not, I'd rather buy a Q6600.

'Cause... you know... 8200 is like... 1600 more than 6600. Isn't 1600 more worth the extra $50?

Intel price things according to whatever people are willing to pay. "People" = computer illiterate masses. You're a nerd. You're not one of the people.

 

[Slobogob]

The price of these things is a little off. I've seen them listed at 180€ for quite a while. Just next to those Q6600 for 130€. Even a Q6700 is cheaper. The Q9300 is barely more expensive ( about 5 or 6 € ). At this price point, the Q8xxx series has no market.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

I think this is Intel poking fun at AMD, kind of cruel really...

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I had a dual core with that fsb/multiplier setup, took me a 500 FSB to get it working at 3500. This will be a very crappy overclocking cpu given how much harder it is to up the fsb to clock up a quad. I was able to get 500 FSB at only 1.35 NB, to do 425 with my quad it takes 1.57 on the NB. You need a wonder board to get anything useful out of it.

 

[pauldh]

'Cause... you know... 8200 is like... 1600 more than 6600. Isn't 1600 more worth the extra $50?

Intel price things according to whatever people are willing to pay. "People" = computer illiterate masses. You're a nerd. You're not one of the people.

:lol: Makes sense to me.

Oh, BTW, I kinda prefer geek over nerd.

 

[jaragon13]

Yeah,I saw this...overclocking sucks...Only thing this is good for is being a low-impact quad core.Nothing else.And noone wants that. They buy a dual core if they want low heat and lowered power consumption,not this.

While I see this looks great in idea,but they nerfed it to where noone wants to buy it.Maybe at like 170 dollars(would be a steal),but no.

 

[spathotan]

Even at $170 it wouldnt be worth it seeing as the Q6600 has twice as much L2 and more OC headroom, not to mention its been through the trials and trenches "of war" and everybody knows what its capable of. This needs to be down at $140 or even $120, right in the thick of the Phenom X3's, but we know Intel would never do that.....

 

[cjl]

Actually, I thought that pricing this right next to the x3s and lower end x4s was exactly what Intel wanted. My bet is that the pricing is going to drop soon.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Yea, just more fuel for the absurdity that is Intel pricing. Not quite as bad as the E8400 only being $5 more than the E8200 though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115038

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

STILL cant figure this one out.

Thats all the pricing hike due to the etailer, not really Intel.

Yeah,I saw this...overclocking sucks...Only thing this is good for is being a low-impact quad core.Nothing else.And noone wants that. They buy a dual core if they want low heat and lowered power consumption,not this.

While I see this looks great in idea,but they nerfed it to where noone wants to buy it.Maybe at like 170 dollars(would be a steal),but no.

You would be suprised. This will probably serve 2 purposes. 1. is to phase out the older 65nm tech and remain for a bit and 2. use up the 45nm dual cores since they will soon start being ramped down and phased out by Nehalem in 2009.

Either way this is another chip for people to choose from and for Intel to sell. Besides the lower clocks will allow for lower TDP and less heat so it will probably be good for those looking for a quad that is cool, maybe for a HTPC or something.

 

[kingandq]

q8200 can't work in intel p45/g45. intel.com

intel don't want we build a high-tech computer with q8200.

 

[jimmysmitty]

q8200 can't work in intel p45/g45. intel.com

intel don't want we build a high-tech computer with q8200.

I smell BS and FUD right here. Why? Here is why:

Core 2 Quad Q8200 (rev.M1,2.33GHz,1333FSB,L2:4MB,4 cores) ALL 0703

Thats from Asus website CPU support for the P5Q Pro which is a P45 mobo. Here is the link to check yourself:

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?model=P5Q%20PRO&SLanguage=en-us

Just to add to that this is from Intels site itself :

Desktop PC platforms based on the Intel® P45 Express Chipset, combined with either the Intel® Core™2 Quad processor or Intel® Core™2 Duo processor, drive performance and state-of-the-art technology to mainstream and performance platforms. The Intel® P45 Express Chipset supports the latest 45nm Intel® Core™2 processor family at 1333MHz FSB, dual-channel DDR3, Intel® Extreme Memory Profiles (Intel® XMP), dual PCI Express* 2.0 graphics and Intel® Extreme Tuning.

This is the current Core 2 CPU @ 45nm. Also considering that the P4X chipset will probably be the last one for their FSB system since the 5 series is set for Core i7, Nehalem, What chipset would support this except the P45 at least?

Bleh the stupidity that comes here sometimes.

 

[dagger]

You would be suprised. This will probably serve 2 purposes. 1. is to phase out the older 65nm tech and remain for a bit and 2. use up the 45nm dual cores since they will soon start being ramped down and phased out by Nehalem in 2009.

Phase out? Q6600 is the lowest 65nm cpu possible. How can Intel expect to replace it with something far inferior? If they drop prices of q9450/q9550, now, that's phasing out.

 

[spathotan]

Well, im not to sure about Nehelem yet as far as price goes on the proc and the motherboards. Ive seen the early preview benchmarks on Anandtech and the proc raped and burned everything in its path with ease.

I dont know if I want to get rid of my Q6600 I paid $205 for and my P45 I paid $140 for with an additional $65 into by modding the mosfets/NB with thermalright pieces, and pay $300 for Nehelem proc and probably $200-$350 for an X58 board and only see a 3% FPS increase in games. Since im a gamer I dont care about how fast my proc can zip files on encode media.

With that said, I probably will not jump on i7 at years end when it launches, however.....I will have to see what my tax return looks like

 

[dagger]

Well, im not to sure about Nehelem yet as far as price goes on the proc and the motherboards. Ive seen the early preview benchmarks on Anandtech and the proc raped and burned everything in its path with ease.

I dont know if I want to get rid of my Q6600 I paid $205 for and my P45 I paid $140 for with an additional $65 into by modding the mosfets/NB with thermalright pieces, and pay $300 for Nehelem proc and probably $200-$350 for an X58 board and only see a 3% FPS increase in games. Since im a gamer I dont care about how fast my proc can zip files on encode media.

With that said, I probably will not jump on i7 at years end when it launches, however.....I will have to see what my tax return looks like

Beh, how much are you selling your "old" rig for?

 

[jimmysmitty]

Phase out? Q6600 is the lowest 65nm cpu possible. How can Intel expect to replace it with something far inferior? If they drop prices of q9450/q9550, now, that's phasing out.

Well you have to remember that at the begining of this year Intel started to ramp down 65nm and the fabs are being converted to 45nm process so soon there will be no 65nm chips made to be used for the Q6600. This is kind of like the Q6400. A rare chip but was made as a low end quad to get rid onf the extra E6400 chips they had left but the E6400 was already replaced by the E6420.

 

[spathotan]

I give it till Friday, there will be about 10 "lolwut" reviews on Newegg for that proc, half from people who dont even own giving it 5 eggs, and half from people who bought it without looking at the specs.

 

[bobbknight]

This chip is just Intel trolling for suckers with the newness marketing hype.

Geeks to me make me think of the old carny oral chicken decapitators.

So I be a computer nerd. (Pulls suspenders out and says yep)

 

[I]

You guys keep forgetting something, that it's N E W, that the price will drop same as it always does.

Q8200 will become a reasonable option for those who aren't trying to o'c much, and the cost difference will add up from power savings over the several year lifespan of a system. I guess some of you don't pay power bills.

It might be a great choice for a HTPC, not a power user/overclocker's main rig.

 

[ggatlanta]

Hi folks, first time poster.

I thought I'd like to add one thing this CPU is good for. I am a 3D animator. I picked up a Q8200 for $175 yesterday. I have a render farm (OK, a ONE computer render farm) running a Q6400 in addition to my main workstation with the 6600 on it.

EDIT: I stand corrected! I'm kicking myself now....This CPU definitely smokes my DUAL Core 6600. I didn't even know there was a Quad 6600...On sale today on Newegg for $10 more than the Q8200. Sheesh!