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Hello all, would installing a PCI-E X16 Express video gaming card increase my computer performance or speed or both? I am looking to play some games, but I am more into increasing the performance of my computer. By the way, I have an ASUS Motherboard P5VDC-MX ver. 2.0 775-socket with 2GB of RAM and a 250GB Hard Drive, with an Intel Pentium D @ 3.00GHz CPU with Windows XP Home Ed. :hello:

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I believe that mobo can support a core 2 duo (the older ones, e6600, e6700, etc). But there isn't a pci-e x16 slot on it, it has an agp port so you might need a new mobo.

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you'd have to basically get a new computer to upgrade...

 

EDIT: btw shadowthor?

 

900 some posts in 2 months... isn't that a little excessive?


Message edited by thogrom on 07-29-2008 at 04:59:59 AM
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lol, maybe. Just want to help.

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With no PCI-E x16 slot you're upgrade options are really poor. I'd highly recommend saving at least $600-$700 at least depending on the budget and look into a new computer. If you're going to build it you can probably keep the hard drive if its SATA, which will save some money. If the ram is ddr2 800 you could keep it as well, but i expect its probably only 667.

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What do you mean by performance? Gaming? Folding? Video editing?

Are you cpu bound?
Are you short on memory?
Is your hard drive a bottleneck?

As a guess, you may want a bit more performance in games. For that, you need something better than integrated video. Unfortunately, your system only supports agp, and your choices are more limited and expensive.
pick the AGP card that best fits your budget from this list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ards-money

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Thanks for the fast response folks. Shadowthor, I believe that you are right, but I think that Pentium D is in the duo core family. Also, I'm getting 3.00GHz. from my CPU, so thats pretty impressive for a Pentium D. Also, my motherboard does have a PCI-E X16 slot.

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billybobbuddy wrote :

Thanks for the fast response folks. Shadowthor, I believe that you are right, but I think that Pentium D is in the duo core family. Also, I'm getting 3.00GHz. from my CPU, so thats pretty impressive for a Pentium D. Also, my motherboard does have a PCI-E X16 slot.


Pentium D is dual core, but it is not a Core 2 Duo. A Pentium D at 3ghz is not impressive at all, I don't think there is a Core 2 Duo that performs slower than that, Core 2 is much more efficient that Netburst (Pentium 4 and D), and translates to about twice the performance per gigahertz.

 

To answer your first question, a dedicated graphics card should free up some RAM and processor cycles and speed up your computer a tiny bit, but a Core 2 processor will do much more than that.


Message edited by Grimble_Crumble on 07-29-2008 at 06:09:07 AM
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Definitely. A good E6600 even would be quite a bump.

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Ok Grimble_Crumble, but why do I see some Core 2 duo's running at 2.4 GHz or lower? As far as the graphics card, I probably will go with a mid-range graphics card, if it will help a little bit anyway. I also believe that my motherboard will support a Core 2 Duo like mentioned earleir. I checked the ASUS site and found my motherboard specs. for it and thats what it stated.

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billybobbuddy wrote :

Ok Grimble_Crumble, but why do I see some Core 2 duo's running at 2.4 GHz or lower? As far as the graphics card, I probably will go with a mid-range graphics card, if it will help a little bit anyway. I also believe that my motherboard will support a Core 2 Duo like mentioned earleir. I checked the ASUS site and found my motherboard specs. for it and thats what it stated.


well of course you see C2D's at 2.4GHz or lower it depends what model you get.

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I guess what I am trying to say, is that my Pentium D CPU is running @ 3.00GHz, where Core 2 Duo's run @ 2.4GHz, which seems a lower ghz then mine. But then again, I am not what you call an expert, I just look at things and figure it out myself. But you are right, different motherboards run @ different specifications, so 2.4 GHz may be fatser then mine in the long run.

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billybobbuddy wrote :

I guess what I am trying to say, is that my Pentium D CPU is running @ 3.00GHz, where Core 2 Duo's run @ 2.4GHz, which seems a lower ghz then mine. But then again, I am not what you call an expert, I just look at things and figure it out myself. But you are right, different motherboards run @ different specifications, so 2.4 GHz may be fatser then mine in the long run.


A Core 2 Duo at 2.4GHz will walk all over a Pentium D at 3.0GHz.

Examples:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12588.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12591.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12579.png

Note that the E6600 @ 2.40GHz absolutely DESTROYS the 3.6GHz Pentium D 960.

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Ok cjl, I stand corrected! My appologies for doubting you folks!
I was wondering what you were talking about, when you mentioned E6600? I thought you were talking about video cards and not cpu's.
I am going to look into the proper Core 2 Duo for my motherboard, since it supports a Core 2 Duo cpu. I believe my motherboard will also support the Extreme Core Duo cpu, but thats too much power for what I do, as well as too much $. Then, with me adding a mid-range graphics card, my computer should do a lot better. Thanks for the images cjl, that was a big help! If its not too much to ask of you, would you be able to point me into the proper direction, in finding a Core 2 Duo for my motherboard? Its a P5VDC-MX Ver. 2.0 775 socket motherboard with 2 GB's of RAM, 32-bit/ X86 based. Thanks a bunch! :hello:

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Go to http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx for a list of supported cpu's for your motherboard. It looks like the E series of Core 2 duo's with 1066 FSB are supported. Note the bios level required. You may have to search for a E6600 or E6700, probably on e-bay.

The Core 2 processors have a newer, more efficient desigh than the pentium processors. They are much faster, clock for clock. They do more during each of the slower clock cycles, and they take fewer clock cycles to do the work.

I think it would be better to save up and replace your system, instead of trying to upgrade it with parts that are obsolete and overpriced.


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