Liquid Cooled Q9450 hitting 67c temps? Please help!!

[blackcross]

I have a Q9450 on an Asus p5n-d mobo OC'ed to 3.2ghz from 2.66ghz.

My voltage is 1.22, and I use a thermaltake bigwater 760i liquid cooling kit with artic silver 5.

With full cpu load (prime95) i sit at 65c-67c, and idle is 50-52c. Something is very wrong with this picture if others can hit under 40c with full load on aircoolers. I was under the impression that liquid = win. What am I doing wrong here?

FYI non-OC'ed at stock speeds and 1.16 volts, my temps are 40c on idle and 55-60c with full load.

Additionally, i'm using positive pressure in my case (just incase your wondering)

Thanks for all your help guys!

 

[overshocked]

^ did you try to reseat the water block?

 

[blackcross]

yes, I pulled is off completely, cleaned the cpu, put on new artic silver 5 and re-seated the kit. I made sure that the pressure on all 4 sides of the cpu were even.

Now, I am using realtemp to read my temps and I have heard that nothing can properly read a Q9450 on the P5N-D, but i'm still worried.

The only thing that comes to mind is that the bigwater sucks and there goes $120 down the drain. But I really hope that's not the case.

Here is a link to the kit I use.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1160&ID=1616

 

[overshocked]

^^ thats really wierd, but check this out
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermaltake-bigwater-760i_9.html

It sounds like the rad is way to small.

Looks like you got ripped off. )=

 

[AKM880]

Yeah ThermalTake LC kits aren't the best.

 

[orangegator]

Crappy water cooling kit's are worse than good air cooling. If you want good water cooling, you need to build it custom.

 

[neon neophyte]

water cooling is good for getting heat off the cpu, but if you cant get the heat out of the water, the whole system is just going to heat up.

 

[blackcross]

man, not what I wanted to hear..... But thank you for the info guys. I figured as much. *sigh.

Well then, any ideas for the best air cooler to replace my POS liquid kit? I don't care about price or weight of the cooler, just that it keeps my Q9450 (while OC'ed 24/7) at the lowest temps possable.

Off subject, are there any current air coolers that are pure copper? Like the older Butterfly cooler? (I think copperheatpipes are not as good as pure copper, fins inc).

 

[blackcross]

Like the blackknight cpu cooler, just not aluminum? Or is it just wishful thinking?

 

[neon neophyte]

the thermaltake ultra 120 is a good air cooler. and yes, it comes in a solid copper version. surprisingly, it doesnt offer better cooling than the hybrid aluminum/copper cooler, it does however weigh several lbs more. people have apparently ripped their socket right off their board with it. ^^

it sure is pretty tho.

 

[overshocked]

^ Go for the CCF
its only $24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004

then either return your bigwater or sell it on ebay
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=+bigwater+760i&_sacat=See-All-Categories

 

[overshocked]

it does however weigh several lbs more. people have apparently ripped their socket right off their board with it. ^^

it sure is pretty tho.

LOL
yeah, that is why it is not a good idea to move your case with one of those installed (=

 

[blackcross]

Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard good things about the CCF because of the direct contact heat pipes, but how does it compare this the zermtherm full copper heatsink that's got full copper contact?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835887002

Is there anything better than the CCF? I'm looking to keep my temps below 50c at full load with an OC'ed Q9450 at 1.22 volts.

 

[overshocked]

Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard good things about the CCF because of the direct contact heat pipes, but how does it compare this the zermtherm full copper heatsink that's got full copper contact?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835887002

Is there anything better than the CCF? I'm looking to keep my temps below 50c at full load with an OC'ed Q9450 at 1.22 volts.

yes, the CCF is great, it is rated number 2 on frosty tech
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

I do believe that it is better than the titan ttc though,

every time i have tested it has performed slightly better (=

 

[medjohnson77]

Not sure how the big water cooler is designed, Is there a chance you can ad another Rad to the loop? Sure for a decent Rad you will be looking at 60-100 dollars, but at least might have a decent water cooling loop. When I went water cooling I skipped the kits, and spent around $350 dollars at the Den and other stores. My Phenom II 940 @ 3.6ghz on 1.39 volts Idles at 29C and load is never more then 45C

Good luck with what ever you decide to go with

 

[overshocked]

Med,

The pump on the bigwater is more than likely only set up to handle a single rad...

So if you add a second rad to the loop it would be a fail (=

 

[blackcross]

I think you guys are right, in that the rad is too small and the product as a whole is just not up to par. I should have gone custom.

Still, in picking an air cpu cooler, I do like overshocked suggestion of the CCF.

 

[AKM880]

Also take alook at the Xigmatek Dark Knight and Scythe Mugen 2.

 

[overshocked]

^
HSH For The Win!

And the CCF if you dont want to make a HSH.

LOL.

 

[overshocked]

I think you guys are right, in that the rad is too small and the product as a whole is just not up to par. I should have gone custom.

Still, in picking an air cpu cooler, I do like overshocked suggestion of the CCF.

Sell you WC on ebay.

 

[Mugz]

Or just add your own rad into the loop to start with. That makes a massive difference.

 

[overshocked]

^mugz, not sure if that would work for the reason that those pumps are only made to handle what they have and a rad will slow down water alot...

i just dont think the pump is capable of pumping water through another rad.

Really seams like throwing good money after bad to me.

 

[blackpanther26]

I agree he should either sell it or send it back for his money. And if he wants water cooling he can buy a better kit or get different parts for it.

 

[4745454b]

I don't know about that kit, but perhaps he can add a fan or two to the rad. If you get the rad outside the case, and attach a couple of 120mm fans to it, you might be able to cool the water better. This would be a lot cheaper then buying a new block. I would also remove any NB/GPU blocks as well.

 

[medjohnson77]

Med,

The pump on the bigwater is more than likely only set up to handle a single rad...

So if you add a second rad to the loop it would be a fail (=

Yeah your right, I think the kit he has, sorry to say is junk. If your going to go water cooling, do it right, it my be expensive to do it right, around $350 bucks, but it can be transfered to your next rig, and the next..... so on and so forth. My rig is staying right at 32C on the cpu and 30C on the motherboard. I am loving it.